Is it ok for Google to contribute to any politican?

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    I strongly disagree with you on term limits, Mac. You need people with experience on how the government works to get things done. Term limits throw those people out as soon as they get to the point where they could get anything done.

    If you get the money out of politics with both spending limits on candidates, as well as donation limits on individuals and banning PAC's altogether, you won't need term limits. It's the obscene amounts of money needed to run for public office that are poisoning the well, and keeping politicians beholding to the biggest donors.

    Citizen's United needs to be legislated out of existence, but political lobbying and fundraising is now a big bucks industry with its own lobbyists. Any time you have billionaires spending $50 million dollars funding one party, it's not healthy at all. How much more is it worth to these people to make these kinds of investments? What are these people getting in return for their money? Is it any wonder that the working people of America have been consistently screwed over since Republicans took control of the economy under Ronald Reagan?

    In Canada, we had a system whereby our taxes funded the election campaigns. About $2 per person. The parties received the election money according to the number of votes received. Of when the Conservatives won the election, they cancelled this funding, and sadly, the Liberals haven't reinstated it. But it was VERY effective keeping votes from being bought by moneyed interests. Once Conservatives killed the program, wages stagnated and the wealth gap increased.
     
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    In the US it is illegal to buy votes.
     
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    I understand that argument. As with any big change, term limits would certainly have their down side, so it's a matter weighing the good against the bad. I'm just not convinced that these people are going to change their behaviors unless we change the system in which they operate. The current system is fully weighed in the incumbents' favor, which is probably why they win a vast majority of elections. They have time to buy votes and increase their power base.

    And now, holy crap, that same system rewards incumbents for playing exclusively to their base, even when that base is the minority (as we're seeing with Trump), because that's where the fundraising power is. If they can't run for re-election, that element is gone.

    Anyway, I get it. Maybe we'll find a better approach. And by the way, I'm sure as hell not holding my breath on term limits. And thanks for the calm and reasoned post.
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    Political parties don't control the flow of information on the internet.
     
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    I was talking about MONEY. How has that become "speech?"
     
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    Legally yes it is. That is all the really matters.
     
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    Yes, it does when their supporters and contributors control the flow. And you wonder why we call fake news fake news.
     
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    Not a big fan of the 1st Amendment I see.
     
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    Slavery was legal at one time
     
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    Not when it is abused no I am not and how is that free speech?
     

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