So did we. 1808. Whoop tee do. But as far as the practice of owning people, we didn't do it until 1865 -- after everybody except Cuba and Brazil, both of whose colonial 'parents' had already abolished it.
So once again your mad at the founding fathers who the left proudly says founded this country and they were liberal according to you?
Nothing in that torrent was about the "founding fathers". It was entirely about this:
2Aguy said:we have done more to free more people from slavery and poverty than any other country in the world...
So that got corrected. Hence the timeline, because clearly we did less than most --- not "more". That was a myth bust.
Meanwhile, back at the founding fathers --- yes, they were Liberals and designed this government based on Liberalism. With the self-contradiction that slavery wasn't done away with immediately, which led to the inevitable tensions for the proverbial four score and seven years.
Still haging on desperately to that myth that the founding fathers were Lefty's huh?
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I've never claimed they were "leftys" or even "lefties". Ever.
I've always said they were Liberals. Which is true.
Not in today's definition and that's what you cling too.
There is no "today's definition". I keep telling you people I'm a linguistic archconservative.
There is an original definition, and that's what I cling to. There are also people walking around misusing the term, morphing it into its own opposite -- which of course is a contradiction. But that's their problem.
I just illustrated this for another poster --- imagine a football field. You're sitting on the 50. Two teams on the field, one trying to move the ball to the left, the other to the right. And each opposes the other. Those are obviously the 'left' and the 'right'.
The Liberal, however, is the referee. The ref never carries the ball, never makes a tackle. He just makes sure the playing field is even and nothing takes place out of bounds.
And of course from time to time one team or the other doesn't like the ref's call.