Iran nuclear deal: European nations 'siding with ayatollahs' - Pompeo

[Auld Phart]

Iran nuclear deal: European nations 'siding with ayatollahs' - Pompeo

His comments came after allies said the US could not trigger so-called "snapback" sanctions on Iran.

www.bbc.co.uk

Mike Pompeo's assertion that Washington's key European allies are "siding with the ayatollahs" offers a test case of the failures of President Trump's approach towards Iran and of his foreign policy in general.

Foreign policy is about defining objectives; determining the means of getting there and, crucially, carrying other nations along with you. On Iran, the US has failed on every count.

Bluster might work among the less educated of his base but diplomacy is grown up stuff. If you cant take people with you then you stand alone and impotent. The world needs leadership and the US is playing golf.

I would imagine that most of Americas allies are waiting for November and the return of sanity to the world stage.

I would imagine that most of Americas allies are waiting for November and the return of sanity to the world stage.

I don't see a return of sanity anytime in the next 4 years, no matter who wins in November.

 

[Mac-7]

Europe doesnt know which America it is dealing with.

The feckless euros should worry more about the nature of the crazy mullahs who are building nuclear weapons to set the world on fire with

 

[Mac-7]

No, not really. It was stupid of us. How bad is it when Europe turns on you to side with Iran?

the euros are making money in iran

and they want to make more

but they are contributing to a future nuclear war

Trump is the only one threatening that.

Or at least using some sort of imaginary weapons.

Trump keeps threatening US enemies with destructive power greater than nuclear weapons — experts say that's 'crazy talk'

Remember when Trump said he would target women and children also.

Better that trump should starve the iranian nuclear program that to see a nuclear war in the gulf

if that means that the euros make a bit less money in the future its a small price to pay for the lives of millions

 

[JoeB131]

No, they are supporting Iran because they are afraid of Iran, and hope to be the last one eaten by the alligator.

Or maybe they realize you won't be eaten by an alligator if you stop swimming in his swamp.

The Europeans worked very hard to get a deal with Iran. They stop making nukes, we open trade with them. Easy Peasy.

If we want Iran to behave better on the world stage, we need to engage them economically and politically.

Trump, on the other hand, just wants to "look tough". His mouth is writing checks his ass can't cash.

 

[JoeB131]

The feckless euros should worry more about the nature of the crazy mullahs who are building nuclear weapons to set the world on fire with

Except there's no evidence the Mullahs were building nukes. The IAEA said that Iran was in compliance and is STILL complying.

Here's the thing. If Iran feels under threat by the US, then it's actually in their interest to build nukes. Nukes are the automatic "Don't fuck with me" card. Just look how deferential we are to North Korea because that bankrupt little country has a 1950's grade nuke that probably wouldn't even fit on one of their malfunctioning missiles.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Trump breaking the Iran deal was 100% about blowing up one of President Obama's accomplishments.

How did America benefit from giving the illegitimate Mullahs of Iran pallets full of cash money?

Giving Iran back it's own money that the US had frozen in US banks was part of the deal and didn't cost us a thing except perhaps the trillions the right wants to spend on another stupid war.

Giving funds to a terrorist state.

 

[JoeB131]

Better that trump should starve the iranian nuclear program that to see a nuclear war in the gulf

if that means that the euros make a bit less money in the future its a small price to pay for the lives of millions

Except his policies make it MORE likely Iran will build a nuke.

Iran has everything it needs to build nukes now. They have the Uranium, they have the scientists.

 

[martybegan]

No, they are supporting Iran because they are afraid of Iran, and hope to be the last one eaten by the alligator.

Or maybe they realize you won't be eaten by an alligator if you stop swimming in his swamp.

The Europeans worked very hard to get a deal with Iran. They stop making nukes, we open trade with them. Easy Peasy.

If we want Iran to behave better on the world stage, we need to engage them economically and politically.

Trump, on the other hand, just wants to "look tough". His mouth is writing checks his ass can't cash.

Like the Iranians are actually holding up their end of the deal.

That you are stupid enough to believe them just shows what a moron you are.

 

[Mac-7]

Except there's no evidence the Mullahs were building nukes. The IAEA said that Iran was in compliance and is STILL complying.

Iran is in a much stronger position thanks to the assistance of obama

trumps real goal is the destruction of the muslim theocracy before they have nuclear weapons and the rocketry to deliver those weapons

that should be the goal of the euros too but it isnt

 

[Polishprince]

Better that trump should starve the iranian nuclear program that to see a nuclear war in the gulf

if that means that the euros make a bit less money in the future its a small price to pay for the lives of millions

Except his policies make it MORE likely Iran will build a nuke.

Iran has everything it needs to build nukes now. They have the Uranium, they have the scientists.

So the fact that they AGREED not to build nukes means nothing to them? All of the Mullahs European friends are still on board with the agreement, and the mullahs already received (and not returned) Obama's huge cash payment.

 

[Mac-7]

Iran has everything it needs to build nukes now. They have the Uranium, they have the scientists.

The mullahs have a tottering economy that cannot build nukes and feed the ambitions of the people both at the same time

 

[occupied]

Trump breaking the Iran deal was 100% about blowing up one of President Obama's accomplishments.

How did America benefit from giving the illegitimate Mullahs of Iran pallets full of cash money?

Giving Iran back it's own money that the US had frozen in US banks was part of the deal and didn't cost us a thing except perhaps the trillions the right wants to spend on another stupid war.

Biden threatened war last night also.

Did he really? Military action must always be on the table with any adversary nation. No one has any problem with that. The right's attitude with Iran has usually been to escalate tensions with the aim of maybe goading Iran into a clear act of war. Frankly I am amazed at their restraint when the American president starts threatening Iran with the same total destruction their propaganda claims we want for them.

 

[Nostra]

Iran nuclear deal: European nations 'siding with ayatollahs' - Pompeo

His comments came after allies said the US could not trigger so-called "snapback" sanctions on Iran.

www.bbc.co.uk

Mike Pompeo's assertion that Washington's key European allies are "siding with the ayatollahs" offers a test case of the failures of President Trump's approach towards Iran and of his foreign policy in general.

Foreign policy is about defining objectives; determining the means of getting there and, crucially, carrying other nations along with you. On Iran, the US has failed on every count.

Bluster might work among the less educated of his base but diplomacy is grown up stuff. If you cant take people with you then you stand alone and impotent. The world needs leadership and the US is playing golf.

I would imagine that most of Americas allies are waiting for November and the return of sanity to the world stage.

Funny how nobody looks to your shithole country for leadership, huh?

Go curtsy your Queen.

 

[Nostra]

They are tired of our crap.

Thats pretty stupid of the euros

No, not really. It was stupid of us. How bad is it when Europe turns on you to side with Iran? The world understands what our wars are all about. It isn't about what we claim.

Well then, maybe next time Europe calls the USA to save their ass in a war we will let it go to voice mail.

 

[Nostra]

Trump breaking the Iran deal was 100% about blowing up one of President Obama's accomplishments.

How did America benefit from giving the illegitimate Mullahs of Iran pallets full of cash money?

Giving Iran back it's own money that the US had frozen in US banks was part of the deal and didn't cost us a thing except perhaps the trillions the right wants to spend on another stupid war.

When is that war gonna start? You clowns have been saying we would be in a war with Iran the day Trump trashed Obama's disastrous Executive Order deal with Iran.

 

[Nostra]

They are tired of our crap.

Thats pretty stupid of the euros

No, not really. It was stupid of us. How bad is it when Europe turns on you to side with Iran? The world understands what our wars are all about. It isn't about what we claim.

Europe doesnt know which America it is dealing with.

Let me clear it up for ya, Limey................the one that no longer bends over and grabs it's ankles for the terrorist Mullahs. Obama is no longer in charge.

 

[Nostra]

No, they are supporting Iran because they are afraid of Iran, and hope to be the last one eaten by the alligator.

Or maybe they realize you won't be eaten by an alligator if you stop swimming in his swamp.

The Europeans worked very hard to get a deal with Iran. They stop making nukes, we open trade with them. Easy Peasy.

If we want Iran to behave better on the world stage, we need to engage them economically and politically.

Trump, on the other hand, just wants to "look tough". His mouth is writing checks his ass can't cash.

You have no clue if they stopped making nukes because their military facilities were off limits to inspections. Barry got rolled by the Mullahs on the world stage.

 

[Mac-7]

Well then, maybe next time Europe calls the USA to save their ass in a war we will let it go to voice mail.

Who knows?

For all their faults we still have more in common with the euros than against them

but the gap is growing wider

 

[Nostra]

Better that trump should starve the iranian nuclear program that to see a nuclear war in the gulf

if that means that the euros make a bit less money in the future its a small price to pay for the lives of millions

Except his policies make it MORE likely Iran will build a nuke.

Iran has everything it needs to build nukes now. They have the Uranium, they have the scientists.

They had that before. Their centrifuges never stopped spinning, Dummy.

 

[martybegan]

Well then, maybe next time Europe calls the USA to save their ass in a war we will let it go to voice mail.

Who knows?

For all their faults we still have more in common with the euros than against them

but the gap is growing wider

Eastern Europe gets it, because they got to live under Marxists for a few generations not of their choice, and that's after getting steamrolled by the Nazis, either militarily or by being bullied into submitting.

Western Europe got saved, and still many of them put in Marxist light from time to time, which is why they are so soft now.