Iowa to spend 3 million dollars to train and arm teachers....about time.....

People should be allowed to protect themselves BUT........

Because when good guys are carrying guns, people don't get shot unless they need to be shot.

This isn't true as the article notes.

There have been shootings with schools with armed resource officers. There are still shootings where others are armed.
 
Yeah, we should just let them learn to be human shields OJT.
Is that the freaking argument? We should (force) teachers to be trained and armed because the crazies convinced them that they would be human shields? I support the 2nd Amendment right to possess a firearm but it doesn't extend to training mom and pop teachers to arm themselves and pretend to be "unpaid" police officers.
 
It's a really bad idea to train teachers to be Cops and a worse idea to force them to arm themselves at work.

Tjey are not going to be cops....and no one is forced, it is all volunteer
 
Is that the freaking argument? We should (force) teachers to be trained and armed because the crazies convinced them that they would be human shields? I support the 2nd Amendment right to possess a firearm but it doesn't extend to training mom and pop teachers to arm themselves and pretend to be "unpaid" police officers.

They will not act as police officers. Their simple existence on campus will prevent attacks.
 
Are there other states that do this? It'd be interesting to see how this plays out, did it have an effect on the number of school shootings?
 
Great!

Now we get to see schools shootings by Teachers,

You are not the first to state this and you are not the first to explain why arming teachers would be cause this…..

Teachers could easily bring guns into their schools any day of the week to shoot people if they planned on murdering people….,,,allowing volunteers to get training and carrying guns to protect against democrat party, transgender, racist killers like the women who shot up the Christian school, wouldn’t change that fact.

Meanwhile, do you understand that dozens of states already allow the training of teachers and staff and some have already been doing this for decades?

The fear mothering you guys do is stupid….and nothing more than trying a lame attempt to push gun control.
 
Are there other states that do this? It'd be interesting to see how this plays out, did it have an effect on the number of school shootings?

I think you know the answer already…….

In 2019 there were 20 states that allowed some staff at schools to volunteer to undergo training to carry guns to protect their schools…..,

There are now more….33 states and more are working toward it…...

as of this post there were no mass public shooting attacks on any of those schools….

There has yet to be a single case of someone being wounded or killed from a shooting, let alone a mass public shooting, between 6 AM and midnight at a school that lets teachers carry guns. Fears of teachers carrying guns in terms of such problems as students obtaining teachers guns have not occurred at all, and there was only one accidental discharge outside of school hours with no one was really harmed. While there have not been any problems at schools with armed teachers, the number of people killed at other schools has increased significantly – doubling between 2001 and 2008 versus 2009 and 2018.


Here is the research ….

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Think it through.

Someone already did…..

There has yet to be a single case of someone being wounded or killed from a shooting, let alone a mass public shooting, between 6 AM and midnight at a school that lets teachers carry guns. Fears of teachers carrying guns in terms of such problems as students obtaining teachers guns have not occurred at all, and there was only one accidental discharge outside of school hours with no one was really harmed. While there have not been any problems at schools with armed teachers, the number of people killed at other schools has increased significantly – doubling between 2001 and 2008 versus 2009 and 2018.


Here is the research ….

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Such a bad idea.

You know what would be a really great idea? Building an amazing health care system in the U.S.A.

We could be doing that as opposed to spending billions and billions all around the world funding wars. With this system people could actually get people who need mental health care, real mental health care.

Not all, but most who create violence at schools show many signs of issues well before they start shooting up schools. With a good system in place many could be addressed before we have a problem.

But for some reason we prefer to back and create wars. Sadly this seems to be even more prevalent today with those who have the biggest issues with people defending themselves from those we won't address.
 
You know what would be a really great idea? Building an amazing health care system in the U.S.A.

We could be doing that as opposed to spending billions and billions all around the world funding wars. With this system people could actually get people who need mental health care, real mental health care.

Not all, but most who create violence at schools show many signs of issues well before they start shooting up schools. With a good system in place many could be addressed before we have a problem.

But for some reason we prefer to back and create wars. Sadly this seems to be even more prevalent today with those who have the biggest issues with people defending themselves from those we won't address.


Yeah....that will not stop mass public shooters........why? Because we have statements from actual mass public shooters, who were seeing mental health professionals, and stated how easy it was to lie to them about what they planned on doing....

Besides.....we have over 350 million Americans.....how many were mass public shooters in the last year....12.......



Not all, but most who create violence at schools show many signs of issues well before they start shooting up schools. With a good system in place many could be addressed before we have a problem.

This is actually the way to stop mass public shooters....informing the public, in particular family members, how to deal with menatlly ill people....and making sure schools, and the police know what they can do if they find an individual who is a threat....

Remember, the Maine shooter stated he was hearing voices and wanted to do a mass public shooting. He was in custody at a mental facility, it was known by his doctors, his family, the police and his military chain of command......and they did nothing to stop him.....
 

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