Interesting Questionaire for Palestinian Advocates

[aris2chat]

When the western states were divided, borders had to be drawn. It is the same with the remains of the Ottoman empire, it had to be divided by the mandates, and prepare them for statehood.

The lines for Israel/palestine region has been divided many way over the centuries. From tribal state, nation, divided nation, provinces, sanjuks, etc., but never a nation of palestine. Britain and France held the mandates and divided the land along lines that made sense to them, but not necessarily to the tribes, farmers and towns that existed.

People have to assess what land is controlled by whom and work forward from that point. You can't pull up old maps and demand everyone move to those lines.

The controlling state will draw, or negotiate and compromise where the lines should be and who should live or move where.
Pakistan and India had a mass exchange of population. Exodus, diaspora, prisoners, even armies create population shifts and taking of land, for both private and public use. Wars have always had population and map changes. Even nature has changed geographic lines and forces the population shifts. Temperant areas change and so does the population. Sahara was once lush and had several large lakes.
Now we have the technology to both destroy coastline and create new ones. The building of canals and dams means taking land and making people move.

 

[Hossfly]

When the western states were divided, borders had to be drawn. It is the same with the remains of the Ottoman empire, it had to be divided by the mandates, and prepare them for statehood.

The lines for Israel/palestine region has been divided many way over the centuries. From tribal state, nation, divided nation, provinces, sanjuks, etc., but never a nation of palestine. Britain and France held the mandates and divided the land along lines that made sense to them, but not necessarily to the tribes, farmers and towns that existed.

People have to assess what land is controlled by whom and work forward from that point. You can't pull up old maps and demand everyone move to those lines.

The controlling state will draw, or negotiate and compromise where the lines should be and who should live or move where.
Pakistan and India had a mass exchange of population. Exodus, diaspora, prisoners, even armies create population shifts and taking of land, for both private and public use. Wars have always had population and map changes. Even nature has changed geographic lines and forces the population shifts. Temperant areas change and so does the population. Sahara was once lush and had several large lakes.
Now we have the technology to both destroy coastline and create new ones. The building of canals and dams means taking land and making people move.

Great answer and easy to understand. However, Tinmore has a pocket full of what he believes is magic fairy dust.

 

[Phoenall]

None of Palestine's borders are disputed by any of its neighbors. What is there to negotiate?

Just exactly where are those borders located, Tinmore?

Want to try again with a map older than February 1956 and not proposed borders. Now were is this treaty that was signed by a Palestinian leader that defines the borders of Palestine. Don't forget anything else but this is illegal outside interference and so does not stand as being legal.

Time to put up or shut up.

 

[Indeependent]

Phoenall,
C'mon, just draw up a map and post it!

 

[Slyhunter]

What is the dispute? I don't see one.

While you believe the LIES put out by an ISLAMONAZI with his own agenda then you wont. But the fact remains that Palestine had no borders after Syria and trans Jordan were created on land inside the temporary borders of Palestine. This is why under customary INTERNATIONAL LAW THE PALESTINIANS HAVE TO NEGOTIATE MUTUAL BORDERS WITH ALL OF IT NEIGHBOURS

None of Palestine's borders are disputed by any of its neighbors. What is there to negotiate?

Israel is one of it's neighbors.

 

[P F Tinmore]

While you believe the LIES put out by an ISLAMONAZI with his own agenda then you wont. But the fact remains that Palestine had no borders after Syria and trans Jordan were created on land inside the temporary borders of Palestine. This is why under customary INTERNATIONAL LAW THE PALESTINIANS HAVE TO NEGOTIATE MUTUAL BORDERS WITH ALL OF IT NEIGHBOURS

None of Palestine's borders are disputed by any of its neighbors. What is there to negotiate?

Israel is one of it's neighbors.

Israel is not a neighbor. It is a settler colonial project inside Palestine.

 

[toastman]

None of Palestine's borders are disputed by any of its neighbors. What is there to negotiate?

Israel is one of it's neighbors.

Israel is not a neighbor. It is a settler colonial project inside Palestine.

No you idiot. Palestine is inside Israel. LOL you can't even produce a map of Palestine with those alleged international borders you lie about.
The only map you have is the partition plan one with proposed borders.

Israel has internationally recognized boundaries with Egypt and Jordan. Palestine does not have any.

 

[toastman]

While you believe the LIES put out by an ISLAMONAZI with his own agenda then you wont. But the fact remains that Palestine had no borders after Syria and trans Jordan were created on land inside the temporary borders of Palestine. This is why under customary INTERNATIONAL LAW THE PALESTINIANS HAVE TO NEGOTIATE MUTUAL BORDERS WITH ALL OF IT NEIGHBOURS

None of Palestine's borders are disputed by any of its neighbors. What is there to negotiate?

Israel is one of it's neighbors.

Don't bother with Tinmore. His lies about Palestine and borders have been dismantled so many times, yet he cannot accept it. He makes up his own rules as he goes along. It's quite funny actually

 

[toastman]

Just exactly where are those borders located, Tinmore?

"Rotsa ruck".
~~Scooby DD

Tinmore even defies what the UN recognizes as Palestine

You gotta admit though, that little map is kinda cute !