Intelligence source codenamed "Curveball" admits lying about WMD

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    What is our world coming to when you can't even trust a guy named "Curveball?"
     
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    Oh, W obviously did. We will be paying for that stupid decision for a long time.
     
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    The more intelligent - and slightly less partisan - among the board - might be tempted to ask some hard questions, rather than use this thread as yet another 'let's blame Bush' bonanza.... Questions about why we were not and still are not putting more effort into our clandestine services. Had we had a decent clandestine network, we would have been in a better position to verify information, develop further information and generally would not have made such a fucking mess of things.

    However, I'm sure it's easier... and much more fun.... to just scream about Bush et al.
     
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    Just admit Bush was and is a Bufoon and go away.
     
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    Con men require willing mark. This was just another hustle, the stakes were just a little higher, and what he was selling fit the script that the neocons in the Bush administration were looking for.

    The potus doesn't get a direct line with any information, it gets picked up and forwarded to him. This is the fault of a lot of people before it got into Bush's hands.
     
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    Anyone else find it "interesting" this comes OUT NOW?

    :lol::eusa_whistle:
     
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curveball_(informant)


    Criticism, investigation, and damage controlIn 2003, inspectors led by David Kay conducted additional investigation of Curveball's credibility. They found among other things that he placed last in his university class when he had claimed to place first, and that he had been jailed for embezzlement before fleeing to Germany. The former point is relevant because Curveball claimed to have been hired out of university to head Iraq's bioweapons program. That he had placed last in his class would cast considerable doubt on this claim.

    In response to public criticism, U.S. president Bush initiated an investigative commission who released their report on March 31, 2005. Bush's investigative commission came to many conclusions including:

    Curveball's German intelligence handlers saw him as "crazy ... out of control", his friends called him a "congenital liar", and a US physician working for the Defense Department who travelled to Germany to take blood samples seeking to discover if Anthrax spores were present was stunned to find the defector had shown up for medical tests with a "blistering hangover",[16] and he "might be an alcoholic".[17]
    While there were many reports that Curveball was actually a relative (younger brother) of one of Ahmed Chalabi's Iraqi National Congress (INC) top aides,[7][18] the investigative commission stated that it was "unable to uncover any evidence that the INC or any other organization was directing Curveball."[19]
    The Bush administration ignored evidence from the UN weapons inspectors that Curveball's claims were false. Curveball had identified a particular Iraqi facility as a docking station for mobile labs. Satellite photography had showed a wall made such access impossible, but it was theorised that this wall was temporary. "When United Nations Monitoring Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC) inspectors visited the site on February 9, 2003, they found that the wall was a permanent structure and could find nothing to corroborate Curveball's statements."[20] Instead, the inspectors found the warehouse to be used for seed processing.[21]
     
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    I know who he is. I'm asking you why you're claiming that he was tortured or that he was a prisoner.

    He wasn't. You're lying.... again.
     

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