In Order to Cut U.S. military spending dramatically would you be willing to......

[Dayton3]

So you are saying that Taiwan can defeat China by sinking Chinese ships that might not even be there

I'm saying that invading Taiwan using naval landing craft might be more difficult than you think.

Who the hell mentioned landing craft, the chinese would destroy the military targets with missiles, destroy the population centers with missiles then just walk in and take over the factories. Done in 3 hours or less

Who the hell mentioned landing craft

Jaraxle....for one.

I suspect that Taiwan might have a couple of surprises if invaded.

In Order to Cut U.S. military spending dramatically would you be willing to......

It is not your issue anyway. First, South Korea is not a weak spot, they can defend themselves, second, without that Uncle Sam in their back, Seoul would have more interest in an understanding with the north. Just walk away and watch the things solving themselves. Under the current lib...

www.usmessageboard.com

Unless you thought he was discussing an airborne invasion?

And then Moonglow.

Several hundred anti-ship missiles..

In Order to Cut U.S. military spending dramatically would you be willing to......

It is not your issue anyway. First, South Korea is not a weak spot, they can defend themselves, second, without that Uncle Sam in their back, Seoul would have more interest in an understanding with the north. Just walk away and watch the things solving themselves. Under the current lib...

www.usmessageboard.com

Which for some reason you claim they'd never dare launch.

That they would never dare launch against China

In Order to Cut U.S. military spending dramatically would you be willing to......

It is not your issue anyway. First, South Korea is not a weak spot, they can defend themselves, second, without that Uncle Sam in their back, Seoul would have more interest in an understanding with the north. Just walk away and watch the things solving themselves. Under the current lib...

www.usmessageboard.com

You are functionally retarded.

Proof

Why the fuck would Taiwan be using landing craft if China invaded them?

LOL did the Germans invade Normandy with landing craft?

You really need to turn your brain on before embarrassing yourself

But you had to distract away from the US Naval Institute referencing container ships


Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Why the fuck would Taiwan be using landing craft if China invaded them?

Taiwan would be sinking Chinese landing craft.

Should you be posting while you're high?

High goes away, stupid is forever. Someone needs to tell this esalla estupido that racial slurs and animal snuff porn are not necessary or appropriate for an adult discussion of the topic.

Hey, he is a troll, idiot, and an asshole. And I'm being polite.

 

[Dayton3]

So you are saying that Taiwan can defeat China by sinking Chinese ships that might not even be there

I'm saying that invading Taiwan using naval landing craft might be more difficult than you think.

Who the hell mentioned landing craft, the chinese would destroy the military targets with missiles, destroy the population centers with missiles then just walk in and take over the factories. Done in 3 hours or less

Who the hell mentioned landing craft

Jaraxle....for one.

I suspect that Taiwan might have a couple of surprises if invaded.

In Order to Cut U.S. military spending dramatically would you be willing to......

It is not your issue anyway. First, South Korea is not a weak spot, they can defend themselves, second, without that Uncle Sam in their back, Seoul would have more interest in an understanding with the north. Just walk away and watch the things solving themselves. Under the current lib...

www.usmessageboard.com

Unless you thought he was discussing an airborne invasion?

And then Moonglow.

Several hundred anti-ship missiles..

In Order to Cut U.S. military spending dramatically would you be willing to......

It is not your issue anyway. First, South Korea is not a weak spot, they can defend themselves, second, without that Uncle Sam in their back, Seoul would have more interest in an understanding with the north. Just walk away and watch the things solving themselves. Under the current lib...

www.usmessageboard.com

Which for some reason you claim they'd never dare launch.

That they would never dare launch against China

In Order to Cut U.S. military spending dramatically would you be willing to......

It is not your issue anyway. First, South Korea is not a weak spot, they can defend themselves, second, without that Uncle Sam in their back, Seoul would have more interest in an understanding with the north. Just walk away and watch the things solving themselves. Under the current lib...

www.usmessageboard.com

You are functionally retarded.

Proof

Why the fuck would Taiwan be using landing craft if China invaded them?

LOL did the Germans invade Normandy with landing craft?

You really need to turn your brain on before embarrassing yourself

But you had to distract away from the US Naval Institute referencing container ships


Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Why the fuck would Taiwan be using landing craft if China invaded them?

Taiwan would be sinking Chinese landing craft.

Should you be posting while you're high?

Actually while esalla assholishly criticizes the idea of Taiwan using landing craft, in case of a mainland Chinese invasion there is a role for them to be used. In case of an invasion, Taiwan would want to land their own troops in flanking positions to help cut off the PLA invaders.

There will be no Taiwanese military to defend anything.

That is childishly ignorant.

And he keeps whining about "America kids" dying in a war.

I guess the fool didn't know that the average age of American soldiers killed in Iraq was THIRTY!!

 

[Jarlaxle]

Can Taiwan be defended with just two anti ship missiles as was said?

Yes, if they carry the correct warheads.

 

[Jarlaxle]

After you get a job and a portfolio you will understand

Perhaps

OK...now you have reached the point of posting random words strung together, hoping they make sense. What brand of box wine are you guzzling today?

 

[Jarlaxle]

Why would my legs be at risk if Taiwan fired anti-ship missiles at Chinese landing craft?

Have you been stung in the brain by a killer bee? You sound confused.

I think it might be her drug habit.

 

[Jarlaxle]

No US aircraft carrier is anywhere near being the largest ship

Why did you leave out the word "capital"?

Are you being intentionally dishonest?

I think she is actually just stupid...and probably drunk.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Taiwan would be waving white flags and brewing tea. Unless morons like you want the USA to get involved so thousands of kids can die and lose their arms and legs.

LOL, you are still trapped in the past believing that Invasions require a beach landing, wouldn't 500 to 1000 missiles pretty much wipe out the Taiwan military. Or did we sell them the shitty F35 so they can defend against missile attacks

You sure it works that way Dr.

You realize that the Taiwanese have had half a century to turn their (rugged, mountainous) island into a giant fortress...right? You realize that any sort of bombardment (from bombs to artillery to battleship guns) has somewhere between little and zero effect on any sort of heavily dug in troops...right?

 

[esalla]

So you are saying that Taiwan can defeat China by sinking Chinese ships that might not even be there

I'm saying that invading Taiwan using naval landing craft might be more difficult than you think.

Who the hell mentioned landing craft, the chinese would destroy the military targets with missiles, destroy the population centers with missiles then just walk in and take over the factories. Done in 3 hours or less

Who the hell mentioned landing craft

Jaraxle....for one.

I suspect that Taiwan might have a couple of surprises if invaded.

In Order to Cut U.S. military spending dramatically would you be willing to......

It is not your issue anyway. First, South Korea is not a weak spot, they can defend themselves, second, without that Uncle Sam in their back, Seoul would have more interest in an understanding with the north. Just walk away and watch the things solving themselves. Under the current lib...

www.usmessageboard.com

Unless you thought he was discussing an airborne invasion?

And then Moonglow.

Several hundred anti-ship missiles..

In Order to Cut U.S. military spending dramatically would you be willing to......

It is not your issue anyway. First, South Korea is not a weak spot, they can defend themselves, second, without that Uncle Sam in their back, Seoul would have more interest in an understanding with the north. Just walk away and watch the things solving themselves. Under the current lib...

www.usmessageboard.com

Which for some reason you claim they'd never dare launch.

That they would never dare launch against China

In Order to Cut U.S. military spending dramatically would you be willing to......

It is not your issue anyway. First, South Korea is not a weak spot, they can defend themselves, second, without that Uncle Sam in their back, Seoul would have more interest in an understanding with the north. Just walk away and watch the things solving themselves. Under the current lib...

www.usmessageboard.com

You are functionally retarded.

Proof

Why the fuck would Taiwan be using landing craft if China invaded them?

LOL did the Germans invade Normandy with landing craft?

You really need to turn your brain on before embarrassing yourself

But you had to distract away from the US Naval Institute referencing container ships


Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Why the fuck would Taiwan be using landing craft if China invaded them?

Taiwan would be sinking Chinese landing craft.

Should you be posting while you're high?

Taiwan would be waving white flags and brewing tea. Unless morons like you want the USA to get involved so thousands of kids can die and lose their arms and legs.

LOL, you are still trapped in the past believing that Invasions require a beach landing, wouldn't 500 to 1000 missiles pretty much wipe out the Taiwan military. Or did we sell them the shitty F35 so they can defend against missile attacks

You sure it works that way Dr.

Taiwan would be waving white flags and brewing tea

Maybe.

you are still trapped in the past believing that Invasions require a beach landing,

Unless they invade by air. Is that your belief?

wouldn't 500 to 1000 missiles pretty much wipe out the Taiwan military.

Would it? How many missiles did we fire at Iraq?
Any chance Taiwan would retaliate?

Again the Chinese destroy all military and civilian targets needed by missiles that fly thru the air, sparing factories that will be used for communist slave labor. There will already be thousands of mainland Chinese on the ground waiting (they all look alike you know). Bye the time a boat or jet lands Taiwan will already be taken. 6 hours max

 

[esalla]

No US aircraft carrier is anywhere near being the largest ship

Why did you leave out the word "capital"?

Are you being intentionally dishonest?

I think she is actually just stupid...and probably drunk.

I know that you are reliving Midway which is dead to the past

 

[Unkotare]

So you are saying that Taiwan can defeat China by sinking Chinese ships that might not even be there

I'm saying that invading Taiwan using naval landing craft might be more difficult than you think.

Who the hell mentioned landing craft, the chinese would destroy the military targets with missiles, destroy the population centers with missiles then just walk in and take over the factories. Done in 3 hours or less

Who the hell mentioned landing craft

Jaraxle....for one.

I suspect that Taiwan might have a couple of surprises if invaded.

In Order to Cut U.S. military spending dramatically would you be willing to......

It is not your issue anyway. First, South Korea is not a weak spot, they can defend themselves, second, without that Uncle Sam in their back, Seoul would have more interest in an understanding with the north. Just walk away and watch the things solving themselves. Under the current lib...

www.usmessageboard.com

Unless you thought he was discussing an airborne invasion?

And then Moonglow.

Several hundred anti-ship missiles..

In Order to Cut U.S. military spending dramatically would you be willing to......

It is not your issue anyway. First, South Korea is not a weak spot, they can defend themselves, second, without that Uncle Sam in their back, Seoul would have more interest in an understanding with the north. Just walk away and watch the things solving themselves. Under the current lib...

www.usmessageboard.com

Which for some reason you claim they'd never dare launch.

That they would never dare launch against China

In Order to Cut U.S. military spending dramatically would you be willing to......

It is not your issue anyway. First, South Korea is not a weak spot, they can defend themselves, second, without that Uncle Sam in their back, Seoul would have more interest in an understanding with the north. Just walk away and watch the things solving themselves. Under the current lib...

www.usmessageboard.com

You are functionally retarded.

Proof

Why the fuck would Taiwan be using landing craft if China invaded them?

LOL did the Germans invade Normandy with landing craft?

You really need to turn your brain on before embarrassing yourself

But you had to distract away from the US Naval Institute referencing container ships


Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Why the fuck would Taiwan be using landing craft if China invaded them?

Taiwan would be sinking Chinese landing craft.

Should you be posting while you're high?

Taiwan would be waving white flags and brewing tea. Unless morons like you want the USA to get involved so thousands of kids can die and lose their arms and legs.

LOL, you are still trapped in the past believing that Invasions require a beach landing, wouldn't 500 to 1000 missiles pretty much wipe out the Taiwan military. Or did we sell them the shitty F35 so they can defend against missile attacks

You sure it works that way Dr.

Taiwan would be waving white flags and brewing tea

Maybe.

you are still trapped in the past believing that Invasions require a beach landing,

Unless they invade by air. Is that your belief?

wouldn't 500 to 1000 missiles pretty much wipe out the Taiwan military.

Would it? How many missiles did we fire at Iraq?
Any chance Taiwan would retaliate?

Again the Chinese destroy all military and civilian targets needed by missiles that fly thru the air, sparing factories that will be used for communist slave labor. There will already be thousands of mainland Chinese on the ground waiting (they all look alike you know). Bye [sic] the time a boat or jet lands Taiwan will already be taken. 6 hours max

You're a drunk, racist idiot playing 'imagination time.'

 

[esalla]

So you are saying that Taiwan can defeat China by sinking Chinese ships that might not even be there

I'm saying that invading Taiwan using naval landing craft might be more difficult than you think.

Who the hell mentioned landing craft, the chinese would destroy the military targets with missiles, destroy the population centers with missiles then just walk in and take over the factories. Done in 3 hours or less

Who the hell mentioned landing craft

Jaraxle....for one.

I suspect that Taiwan might have a couple of surprises if invaded.

In Order to Cut U.S. military spending dramatically would you be willing to......

It is not your issue anyway. First, South Korea is not a weak spot, they can defend themselves, second, without that Uncle Sam in their back, Seoul would have more interest in an understanding with the north. Just walk away and watch the things solving themselves. Under the current lib...

www.usmessageboard.com

Unless you thought he was discussing an airborne invasion?

And then Moonglow.

Several hundred anti-ship missiles..

In Order to Cut U.S. military spending dramatically would you be willing to......

It is not your issue anyway. First, South Korea is not a weak spot, they can defend themselves, second, without that Uncle Sam in their back, Seoul would have more interest in an understanding with the north. Just walk away and watch the things solving themselves. Under the current lib...

www.usmessageboard.com

Which for some reason you claim they'd never dare launch.

That they would never dare launch against China

In Order to Cut U.S. military spending dramatically would you be willing to......

It is not your issue anyway. First, South Korea is not a weak spot, they can defend themselves, second, without that Uncle Sam in their back, Seoul would have more interest in an understanding with the north. Just walk away and watch the things solving themselves. Under the current lib...

www.usmessageboard.com

You are functionally retarded.

Proof

Why the fuck would Taiwan be using landing craft if China invaded them?

LOL did the Germans invade Normandy with landing craft?

You really need to turn your brain on before embarrassing yourself

But you had to distract away from the US Naval Institute referencing container ships


Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Why the fuck would Taiwan be using landing craft if China invaded them?

Taiwan would be sinking Chinese landing craft.

Should you be posting while you're high?

Actually while esalla assholishly criticizes the idea of Taiwan using landing craft, in case of a mainland Chinese invasion there is a role for them to be used. In case of an invasion, Taiwan would want to land their own troops in flanking positions to help cut off the PLA invaders.

There will be no Taiwanese military to defend anything.

That is childishly ignorant.

And he keeps whining about "America kids" dying in a war.

I guess the fool didn't know that the average age of American soldiers killed in Iraq was THIRTY!!

Do you want Americans dying to defend Taiwan?

How many?

 

[Kilroy2]

There are currently 36 military bases in Germany. Now at the end of WW2 it might have been necessary but today is it still necessary to have that many bases. What is the threat? Russian Communism has fallen. Germany and American relations are good. Japan has 23 bases. Is Japan still a threat. I mean militarily and not economically. At some point you got to let it go as there is no need for that many bases. They have cut military bases in the US which directly effects the local communities that the bases are located.

US Contractor charge the military outrageous sums to do work for them or supplying parts to the services. The government just pays it as it has money to spend.

$739 million for five presidential helicopters , do they really need 5 for only one president.

There are areas that can be cut but what president wants to mess with the armed services.

Strong on military has always been a card played by Politian's. Congress and the Executive branch play that card.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

How does the PLA get the 100 miles across the ocean to Taiwan? Walk on water?

China has a very powerful and modern navy

if you dont know that then you have no business in this discussion

The Chinese have little or no amphibious capability with which to mount an invasion of Taiwan.

 

[Jarlaxle]

I know that you are reliving Midway which is dead to the past

So, which is it you are drinking...box wine, cheap vodka, or Purell?

 

[esalla]

I know that you are reliving Midway which is dead to the past

So, which is it you are drinking...box wine, cheap vodka, or Purell?

US Aircraft Carriers Are Screwed In A Real Battle, According To Defense Analysts

When Dubya wanted to celebrate a “mission accomplished,” he flew in an S-3 onto a carrier hardtop. When Trump wanted to project American military

taskandpurpose.com

There’s just one problem: A growing chorus of defense analysts says that in a real maritime battle, U.S. aircraft carriers are totally fucked.

“Beyond a shadow of a doubt, a carrier is just a target,” one former career Pentagon analyst told Reuters in a depressing investigation of flattops’ vulnerabilities that the news service published Thursday.

Related: Could China’s Military Capability Render The Aircraft Carrier Obsolete? »

Over the past two decades, as the United States cobbled together maritime and littoral strategies based on carrier airpower, potential adversaries have fine-tuned cheaper antiship missiles and torpedoes that can turn an $11 billion behemoth city at sea into a burning patch of ocean:

The new weapons include land-based ballistic missiles, such as China’s Dong Feng-21 anti-ship missile, which has a claimed range of 1,100 miles (1,770 kilometers) and moves at 10 times the speed of sound. Certain Russian and Chinese submarines can fire salvoes of precision-guided cruise missiles from afar, potentially overwhelming carrier-fleet anti-missile defense.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

So you can defeat the largest navy in the world with 2 anti ship missiles?

You are mistaken

china has the largest navy now

Yet we have the largest navy ships...

Our aircraft carriers are the largest capital ships in the world. The USS Enterprise I being the largest of the large...

The new Enterprise is not even built yet! It will be CVN-80. The largest is currently the USS Gerald Ford (CVN-78). CVN-79 is the USS John F. Kennedy. CVN-81 is the USS Dorie Miller. All of these are Ford-class CVNs yet to be built, with the exception of CVN-78.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

So you can defeat the largest navy in the world with 2 anti ship missiles?

You are mistaken

china has the largest navy now

Yet we have the largest navy ships...

Our aircraft carriers are the largest capital ships in the world. The USS Enterprise I being the largest of the large...

Totally false

List of largest ships by gross tonnage - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

But you keep stroking

How many of those are naval vessels?

 

[Jarlaxle]

I know that you are reliving Midway which is dead to the past

So, which is it you are drinking...box wine, cheap vodka, or Purell?

US Aircraft Carriers Are Screwed In A Real Battle, According To Defense Analysts

When Dubya wanted to celebrate a “mission accomplished,” he flew in an S-3 onto a carrier hardtop. When Trump wanted to project American military

taskandpurpose.com

There’s just one problem: A growing chorus of defense analysts says that in a real maritime battle, U.S. aircraft carriers are totally fucked.

“Beyond a shadow of a doubt, a carrier is just a target,” one former career Pentagon analyst told Reuters in a depressing investigation of flattops’ vulnerabilities that the news service published Thursday.

Related: Could China’s Military Capability Render The Aircraft Carrier Obsolete? »

Over the past two decades, as the United States cobbled together maritime and littoral strategies based on carrier airpower, potential adversaries have fine-tuned cheaper antiship missiles and torpedoes that can turn an $11 billion behemoth city at sea into a burning patch of ocean:

The new weapons include land-based ballistic missiles, such as China’s Dong Feng-21 anti-ship missile, which has a claimed range of 1,100 miles (1,770 kilometers) and moves at 10 times the speed of sound. Certain Russian and Chinese submarines can fire salvoes of precision-guided cruise missiles from afar, potentially overwhelming carrier-fleet anti-missile defense.

Chugging Listerine, then?

Sleep it off, then get help.

 

[Dayton3]

There are currently 36 military bases in Germany. Now at the end of WW2 it might have been necessary but today is it still necessary to have that many bases. What is the threat? Russian Communism has fallen. Germany and American relations are good. Japan has 23 bases. Is Japan still a threat. I mean militarily and not economically. At some point you got to let it go as there is no need for that many bases. They have cut military bases in the US which directly effects the local communities that the bases are located.

Most U.S. bases in German and Japan support more distant U.S. operations. German bases support U.S. operations in the Middle East for example and Japanese bases throughout the Western Pacific and Asia.

For example when a young soldier who grew up down the road from me lost both legs in a grenade attack in Baghdad he was med evaced to the big U.S. medical center in Germany where the first of his life saving surgeries was conducted and he began the first of his rehab.

Now he's back home riding his motorcycle doing just fine. His experience with his artificial limbs was detailed in a story in Popular Mechanics.

 

[Jarlaxle]

How many of those are naval vessels?

None...she has been guzzling box wine.