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MONTEZUMA'S REVENGE: Si, Se PuedeWhat 'pivot', snowflake? The topic is about workers skipping work, getting fired, then moronically claiming they were fired for doing so. That's what I have been talking about. you, on the other hand, became triggered and have been targeting me with your foul-mouthed personal insults.Everything I wrote pertained to the topic and your response. You just brought up the white flag with this pitiful pivot Easy showing your "ass-cheeks" with your head in the sand to avoid seeing what a duplicitous asshole and lousy propagandist you've become, you bloody shit for brains FRAUD!Hey shit for brains, what do you think should happen to those employers who fired those undocumented workers according to you? They broke the law by hiring them, but they are going to defend their action with the NRLB citing the fucking law! Both them and you are nothing but fucking hypocrites!
'Shit for brains'? Can you not communicate in civilized discussion without having to resort to vulgarities?
The point of my thread was not to focus on the employers who HIRED and fired the illegals who skipped work to protest, but you still make a great point. It is against the law to hire illegals. IMO, as a 1st offense, the companies should be fined heavily for every illegal found to be or having been working for the company. The second offense should result in HUGE fines. A third offense should result in the Government shutting down the business / company that did the hiring - padlock the door for a while...OR arrest the individuals who did the hiring and leave the company running so as not to punish workers who need the job and did nothing wrong.No shit, and I pointed to your obvious hypocrisy of willful oversight of the reason undocumented peoples flock to the US; the jobs that the unscrupulous scofflaws' offer for the cheap labor and poor working conditions knowing the undocumented employees are under threat of retribution if they complain.The point of my thread was not to focus on the employers who HIRED and fired the illegals who skipped work to protest...
There were 20 undocumented workers fired according to you and the Article. Were they hired as a group all at one once or on 10 or 15 or 20 different occasions over months or years? Fine the criminals and send them to prison as the law requires because they've gone far beyond their three strikes.IMO, as a 1st offense, the companies should be fined heavily for every illegal found to be or having been working for the company. The second offense should result in HUGE fines. A third offense should result in the Government shutting down the business / company that did the hiring - padlock the door for a while...
Do you think there is any bloody chance the NRLB will differ the case to the DOJ and the DOJ headed by Sessions as AG will do his fucking job to take actions given actionable infractions of the Immigration law by the employer who violated US statute over and over again which constitutes multiple felonies? I sure as Hell don't!
'Triggered' Snowflake Alert....
Now back to the topic of discussion:
Worker ditches work to attend protest.
Worker shows back up for work the next day to find he was fired for not showing up for work.
Worker 'shocked' he lost job for not being reliable / not showing up for work.
Silly UN-EMPLOYED EX-worker.
Do me a favor - STFU and leave me alone. I am flattered, but I'm not interested.
Obama became the 1st politician to OPENLY declare and demonstrate that he refused to enforce existing Immigration law in support of his own personal / political 'Open Borders' / Pro-Illegal Immigration' agenda.Either we enforce our immigration laws or we don't. If we choose to not enforce our immigration system, then all the reforms in the world will make no difference and we may as well simply have open boarders.
Crush the Upper Crust"More than 20 immigrant workers in Michigan were stunned to find themselves out of a job after they skipped work to attend a “Day Without Immigrants” rally in February."
- http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/01/immigrant-workers-surprised-to-be-fired-after-missing-work-for-protest/#ixzz4fvaVxisP
Illegals 'shocked' they were fired for skipping work to protest un-fair treatment of criminals who have violated US law.
“The law is quite clear that employees can’t just not show up to work when they’re expected, and also that they are not free to participate in political, non-work related protests during their work day without consequences. We therefore deny any wrongdoing and are confident that the charge will be dismissed.”
A day without Illegals? No problem - YOU'RE FIRED!
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Your OP is filled with false information:
1. Nowhere in the story you linked to does it say ANY of the fired workers were illegal immigrants. It says they were "immigrants". So all references in your OP to "illegal immigrants" is false and misleading information.
2. The Day Without Immigrants was a celebration of legal immigration which the Trump Administration is also attacking.
Those on the left like to conflate both legal and illegal immigrants by simply calling them immigrants. They object to calling illegal immigrants
3. As legal immigrants, these people are subject to First Amendment Rights.
Since the link was to the Daily Caller, I'm pretty sure if even one of the fired workers had been an illegal, it would have been plastered all over the article.
So YOU are celebrating breaches of the Constitution YET AGAIN. Why do Trumpbots hate free speech so much?Also, the supreme court decision that illegals get access to out public schools should be reversed/over ridden. Illegals should not be able to get driver's licenses either. In other words, it should be illegal for illegal immigrants to "operate" in a place that it's illegal for them to be. Also, the constitution should be amended so that children of illegal immigrants born in the united states are not given birthright citizenship.Attrition is fine, but someone needs to start enforcing the law to make it happen.In our booming Trump economy, those workers will get better paid jobs so easily.
Well if they are illegals then they need to be looking for jobs in Mexico.
yeah-----ok that illegal thing is going to go away by ATTRITION----not
by mass arrests and mass deportations.
not so easy-------it would be TOO DRASTIC to try to REVERSE the situation----
better to just stop its INCREASE
.
If we would simple enforce laws/policies that make it difficult for illegal immigrants to live within our boarders, we wouldn't need a physical barrier such as a wall to keep them out. The philosophy of many people (citizens and noncitizens) currently is that once a foreigner crosses our boarder illegally or over stays a visa, that "undocumented immigrant" should be given the same access to our institutions as a citizen of the united states as long as he behaves himself (does not break certain criminal laws).Obama became the 1st politician to OPENLY declare and demonstrate that he refused to enforce existing Immigration law in support of his own personal / political 'Open Borders' / Pro-Illegal Immigration' agenda.Either we enforce our immigration laws or we don't. If we choose to not enforce our immigration system, then all the reforms in the world will make no difference and we may as well simply have open boarders.
Obama did not only refuse to enforce existing law, he violated existing law and protected others who did so.
- Not only did the Obama administration protect human traffickers, for example, he got the US govt involved in human trafficking of children. His protection of Sanctuary Cities is another example.
For decades politicians had been lying their asses off to the American people to appease them by promising over and over to secure the border and build a wall. Obama, again, was the 1st one to say, 'Enough of that - I am going to tell you right up front I am not building a wall, I am not securing the border, I am supporting / facilitating illegal immigration'.
If laws are not being supported and enforced at the highest level in our government all the reforms and new laws in the world will do nothing.
Protecting criminals everywhere.Callous conservatives are not all about greed, as shown by the comments of those above. Schadenfreude, i.e. those who take pleasure from the misfortune of others lack empathy, a sign of a personality disorder.
Crush the Upper Crust"More than 20 immigrant workers in Michigan were stunned to find themselves out of a job after they skipped work to attend a “Day Without Immigrants” rally in February."
- http://dailycaller.com/2017/05/01/immigrant-workers-surprised-to-be-fired-after-missing-work-for-protest/#ixzz4fvaVxisP
Illegals 'shocked' they were fired for skipping work to protest un-fair treatment of criminals who have violated US law.
“The law is quite clear that employees can’t just not show up to work when they’re expected, and also that they are not free to participate in political, non-work related protests during their work day without consequences. We therefore deny any wrongdoing and are confident that the charge will be dismissed.”
A day without Illegals? No problem - YOU'RE FIRED!
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Your OP is filled with false information:
1. Nowhere in the story you linked to does it say ANY of the fired workers were illegal immigrants. It says they were "immigrants". So all references in your OP to "illegal immigrants" is false and misleading information.
2. The Day Without Immigrants was a celebration of legal immigration which the Trump Administration is also attacking.
Those on the left like to conflate both legal and illegal immigrants by simply calling them immigrants. They object to calling illegal immigrants
3. As legal immigrants, these people are subject to First Amendment Rights.
Since the link was to the Daily Caller, I'm pretty sure if even one of the fired workers had been an illegal, it would have been plastered all over the article.
So YOU are celebrating breaches of the Constitution YET AGAIN. Why do Trumpbots hate free speech so much?Also, the supreme court decision that illegals get access to out public schools should be reversed/over ridden. Illegals should not be able to get driver's licenses either. In other words, it should be illegal for illegal immigrants to "operate" in a place that it's illegal for them to be. Also, the constitution should be amended so that children of illegal immigrants born in the united states are not given birthright citizenship.Attrition is fine, but someone needs to start enforcing the law to make it happen.Well if they are illegals then they need to be looking for jobs in Mexico.
yeah-----ok that illegal thing is going to go away by ATTRITION----not
by mass arrests and mass deportations.
not so easy-------it would be TOO DRASTIC to try to REVERSE the situation----
better to just stop its INCREASE
.
You just proved that the Constitution is an obstruction on Americans' right to self-determination. As long as we're stuck on doing it the elitist regime's way, progress will continue to be so slow that it will be too late. Under democracy, this cheap-labor foreign invasion never would have gotten started. Also, the vast majority of us believe that anchor-baby citizenship is absurd, so that would have immediately been canceled if the regime ever gave us self-determination. It's time for us to take the law back into our own hands and put the political elitists on their knees.
You start out with the claim 20 undocumented workers were fired for skipping work. Now you claim their employers had a Constitutionally legal and binding contract with the workers.3. The constitution does not give you the right to break a legally binding contract with an employer in which it is understood that the worker will actually show up for work. In the REAL world, not snowflake 'La La Land', if you skip work you are subject to being FIRED.
If hiring them was illegal to begin with, then their employment should be terminated regardless of whether they showed up for work the day of the protest or not.You start out with the claim 20 undocumented workers were fired for skipping work. Now you claim their employers had a Constitutionally legal and binding contract with the workers.3. The constitution does not give you the right to break a legally binding contract with an employer in which it is understood that the worker will actually show up for work. In the REAL world, not snowflake 'La La Land', if you skip work you are subject to being FIRED.
When was the practice of hiring multiple undocumented workers, misdemeanor or felony acts depending on conditions, become legal? When did that hiring form a legally binding contract binding either party? How is an illegal agreement/contract Constitutional in law or in your mind. Your logic is hosed, Easy, you don't know squat!!!!
If hiring them was illegal to begin with, then their employment should be terminated regardless of whether they showed up for work the day of the protest or not.You start out with the claim 20 undocumented workers were fired for skipping work. Now you claim their employers had a Constitutionally legal and binding contract with the workers.3. The constitution does not give you the right to break a legally binding contract with an employer in which it is understood that the worker will actually show up for work. In the REAL world, not snowflake 'La La Land', if you skip work you are subject to being FIRED.
When was the practice of hiring multiple undocumented workers, misdemeanor or felony acts depending on conditions, become legal? When did that hiring form a legally binding contract binding either party? How is an illegal agreement/contract Constitutional in law or in your mind. Your logic is hosed, Easy, you don't know squat!!!!
That is quite obvious, or should have been without being stated, however, the employer violated Federal statute also providing the bloody magnet that draws the undocumented from other countries. But that all obviates the point.If hiring them was illegal to begin with, then their employment should be terminated regardless of whether they showed up for work the day of the protest or not.
Illegals are criminals, no matter how much you lie and spin. They have no right to be here.Protecting criminals everywhere.Callous conservatives are not all about greed, as shown by the comments of those above. Schadenfreude, i.e. those who take pleasure from the misfortune of others lack empathy, a sign of a personality disorder.
You use the word criminal without thought or relevance. Do you know of the Magna Carta, written nearly 1,000 years ago? How about this precursor to our Bill of Rights:
Madison proposed the following freedoms that later became the First Amendment:
“The civil rights of none shall be abridged on account of religious belief or worship, nor shall any national religion be established, nor shall the full and equal rights of conscience be in any manner, or on any pretext infringed.
“The people shall not be deprived or abridged of their right to speak, to write, or to publish their sentiments; and the freedom of the press, as one of the great bulwarks of liberty, shall be inviolable.
“The people shall not be restrained from peaceably assembling and consulting for their common good; nor from applying to the legislature by petitions, or remonstrances for redress of their grievances.”
I wonder how Mr. Madison would view the current President of the United States? What did Trump say most recently, something like "get him out of here" (him being a protester at his rally) for doing exactly what Mr. Madison believed was "inviolable".
He would laugh his ass off at you, is what would happen. We the people are citizens. You aren't a citizen because you breathe our air. And Trump threw the asshole out because he was disrupting the event. The fact that you have no problem with shutting down others' free speech says you're made of the same stuff.I wonder how Mr. Madison would view the current President of the United States? What did Trump say most recently, something like "get him out of here" (him being a protester at his rally) for doing exactly what Mr. Madison believed was "inviolable".
Callous conservatives are not all about greed, as shown by the comments of those above. Schadenfreude, i.e. those who take pleasure from the misfortune of others lack empathy, a sign of a personality disorder.
