2aguy
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You can put as much gun control as you want on normal people....but don't pretend you are doing it to stop criminals from getting guns........
But......but........criminal culture never ever changes.......they always stay the same....and if they were non-violent and not using guns in the past...that means that forever and ever they will be non-violent and never ever use guns....
As I keep telling anti-gun extremists.......Europe is about where America was in the 1960s...their criminals are going from the West Side story gangs...where they used knives to settle business and personal grudges to the 1970s-1980s America where criminals became more and more violent.....using illegal guns rather than knives.....
And again....this is freaking Sweden....not Mexico....
Gangs of the North
Sweden’s disadvantaged
Both the perpetrators and the victims in Sweden’s gang wars are predominately young men from socially disadvantaged areas in the larger cities for the country. The suspects mostly have a migration background, but they have been born and raised in Sweden, representing the 2nd or 3rd generation of immigrants. As the Prime Minister Stefan Löfven recently pointed out, socio-economic factors are in part responsible.
Sweden is a deeply segregated society. Swedes with migrant backgrounds are often poorly integrated, live in socially deprived areas of the major Swedish cities and are trapped in a cycle of poverty, school failure and unemployment. These conditions did however not emerge overnight. They have crystallised over a long period time, questioning the amount of attention of Swedish that politics has paid to tackling integration problems.
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The quest for status is predominant. Violence is described as a currency useful in the competition for reputation vis-à-vis their peers.
Gun violence has become an investment in one’s own criminal career. Carrying a gun is seen as a means for personal protection. As a result, a viscous circle has ensued. Gun violence escalates and everyone feels being at risk and is constantly afraid.
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A culture of silence (omerta) is seen reigning in relation to authorities. This is a major factor in the low clearance rate of gang related homicides. While the overall clearance rate of homicides in Sweden for a long time has been between 75 and 90 per cent, it is much lower in connection with the shootings at just above 20 per cent.
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Drug turf wars
The shootings are to a large extent connected to the drug market.
The report from the National Council for Crime Prevention states that ‘the picture provided by the material is that drug sales, at different levels, constitute the dominant criminal activity in the milieu. Several interview subjects have also sold guns.
Sales of both drugs and guns are repeatedly described as a job and the interview subjects underscore the need for knowledge and skill.’
The road into selling drugs is easy. Cannabis is available and it is no big step to start using it and dealing. After a while, conflicts arise around customers and payments and the seller has to claim his territory.
Clear causes to the shootings are difficult to detect. Increased availability of firearms has been mentioned as a cause, but if so without further analysis of why there was a sudden increase. Possibly a few shootings for one reason or another started a circle of revenge and created the need to arm oneself for protection. The low clearance rate could also be an explanation for the continued shootings.
But......but........criminal culture never ever changes.......they always stay the same....and if they were non-violent and not using guns in the past...that means that forever and ever they will be non-violent and never ever use guns....
As I keep telling anti-gun extremists.......Europe is about where America was in the 1960s...their criminals are going from the West Side story gangs...where they used knives to settle business and personal grudges to the 1970s-1980s America where criminals became more and more violent.....using illegal guns rather than knives.....
And again....this is freaking Sweden....not Mexico....
Gangs of the North
Sweden’s disadvantaged
Both the perpetrators and the victims in Sweden’s gang wars are predominately young men from socially disadvantaged areas in the larger cities for the country. The suspects mostly have a migration background, but they have been born and raised in Sweden, representing the 2nd or 3rd generation of immigrants. As the Prime Minister Stefan Löfven recently pointed out, socio-economic factors are in part responsible.
Sweden is a deeply segregated society. Swedes with migrant backgrounds are often poorly integrated, live in socially deprived areas of the major Swedish cities and are trapped in a cycle of poverty, school failure and unemployment. These conditions did however not emerge overnight. They have crystallised over a long period time, questioning the amount of attention of Swedish that politics has paid to tackling integration problems.
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The quest for status is predominant. Violence is described as a currency useful in the competition for reputation vis-à-vis their peers.
Gun violence has become an investment in one’s own criminal career. Carrying a gun is seen as a means for personal protection. As a result, a viscous circle has ensued. Gun violence escalates and everyone feels being at risk and is constantly afraid.
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A culture of silence (omerta) is seen reigning in relation to authorities. This is a major factor in the low clearance rate of gang related homicides. While the overall clearance rate of homicides in Sweden for a long time has been between 75 and 90 per cent, it is much lower in connection with the shootings at just above 20 per cent.
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Drug turf wars
The shootings are to a large extent connected to the drug market.
The report from the National Council for Crime Prevention states that ‘the picture provided by the material is that drug sales, at different levels, constitute the dominant criminal activity in the milieu. Several interview subjects have also sold guns.
Sales of both drugs and guns are repeatedly described as a job and the interview subjects underscore the need for knowledge and skill.’
The road into selling drugs is easy. Cannabis is available and it is no big step to start using it and dealing. After a while, conflicts arise around customers and payments and the seller has to claim his territory.
Clear causes to the shootings are difficult to detect. Increased availability of firearms has been mentioned as a cause, but if so without further analysis of why there was a sudden increase. Possibly a few shootings for one reason or another started a circle of revenge and created the need to arm oneself for protection. The low clearance rate could also be an explanation for the continued shootings.
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