Imagine a world without hated billionaires!

Just think. If we put everyone's money in a great big pot and divided it up between all of the people in the nation, we'd be so happy! I wouldn't bother to work, I would get the same amount if I did or didn't. No one would bother to invent anything or go to further their education if they aren't going to get "ahead." Everyone would just lay around or go to the beach.

But, who would serve me at the restaurants? We would finally run out of money if there isn't anyone "getting ahead" or working, would there. Billionaires would finally run out of money subsidizing all of us. Hmmmmmm maybe capitalism is better than I thought.

I think I understand what communism, socialism and Obama is about. And I don't like it at all.

Nor do I. I like what Margaret Thatcher noted: The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.
 
Imagine a world without CORRUPT billionaires!

Why don't you list a couple for us?? \

Lets see...what is that Goldman Sachs CEO's name who manipulates the commodity markets? In particular oil? Blankstein or Blankenstein? Geez I forget, but his ways are burned into my memory.

It's gonna be REAL hard to find corrupt billionaires serving time. Millionaires? SURE -- that's easier. Don't have to be cautious and law abiding to become a mere millionaire. Or even smart :lol:

OIL in itself is not corrupt. Sorry I've got to remind you of that. Those guys got into monopoly trouble back in the 40s (????), but not many hauled before justice since.
 
Just think. If we put everyone's money in a great big pot and divided it up between all of the people in the nation, we'd be so happy! I wouldn't bother to work, I would get the same amount if I did or didn't. No one would bother to invent anything or go to further their education if they aren't going to get "ahead." Everyone would just lay around or go to the beach.

But, who would serve me at the restaurants? We would finally run out of money if there isn't anyone "getting ahead" or working, would there. Billionaires would finally run out of money subsidizing all of us. Hmmmmmm maybe capitalism is better than I thought.

I think I understand what communism, socialism and Obama is about. And I don't like it at all.

Nor do I. I like what Margaret Thatcher noted: The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

Not if it keeps circulating and isn't being hoarded like today. There is no shortage of money supply. Just a shortage of fair minded folks.
 
It would be so wonderful not to have the Fords Duponts Gates Rockefellers, Jobs types around anymore. Who needs their stinkin jobs and products anyway. What was so bad about the Stone Age anyway??
General Electric - paid no tax and received $4.1 billion in government refunds despite $26 billion in profits (the world’s largest corporation in the world’s lowest tax bracket)
- has paid no tax since 2006
- General electric PACs have given more than $13 million to campaign contributions and spent $205 million on lobbying.

Verizon - paid no tax (avoided $600 million in taxes due to "loophole")
- spent $12 million in campaign contributions and $131 million on lobbying during last 10 years

ExxonMobil - paid no tax and received a $156 million tax rebate despite making $19 billion in profits (2009)
- $5.7 million in campaign contributions and $138 million in lobbying expenditures over last 10 years

Chevron - paid no tax
ConocoPhillips - paid no tax
Valero - paid no tax
Boeing - paid no tax
FedEx - paid no tax
Carnival Cruise Lines - paid no tax
Bank of America - paid no tax (made $4.4 billion in 2010 and received government refunds of $1.9 billion)
CitiBank - paid no tax
Goldman Sachs - paid no tax


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Imagine a world with no workers.

Or just wait a bit.

We're headed in that direction right now.
 
It would be so wonderful not to have the Fords Duponts Gates Rockefellers, Jobs types around anymore. Who needs their stinkin jobs and products anyway. What was so bad about the Stone Age anyway??
The flaw in your thinking is the idea that availability of "jobs" and "products" depends on perpetuation of greed (billionaires). Do you believe that singers only sing and artists only paint and dancers only dance for money? Do you also believe that if Bill Gates died tomorrow Microsoft would go out of business? And can you explain why Ford is still going strong even though Henry has been dead for quite some time?

I believe if the accumulation of personal assets were limited to $20 million nothing would change except there would be lots more millionaires, no billionaires and a socially healthier Nation. What do you think of that?

You had an entire thread to make that argument and it failed miserably.. Yet here you are -- pushing the SOS.. Logic and reason, facts and history have no effect on your stupidity does it?
it's the first time i've read the question and i actually think it is a good question to contemplate and ask ourselves....!!!

and the answer is, yes, someone else would have come along that would have created what Jobs created....no guarantee that it would be done on the same time schedule or with the same gusto of Steve's, but as employers used to say when i was young, ''no one, is irreplaceable''....
 
History shows us that the left's idea of socially healthy is really socially putrid.

The idea that innovators would still create, dancers would still dance, artists would still paint, if they could not amass assets and trappings of wealth has been tried over and over again. Most recently in Soviet Russia and Communist China. It didn't work. Yes, you could take the Steve Jobs of the nation, put them in a room and tell them to invent "because we have your family". That's what it came down to. Talented dancers were told to dance, until they could defect. Same with painters, singers, artists of all kinds.

Russia and China both realized the error of their ways and now have systems more capitalist than communist, we will have to relive those days.

When people no longer can keep the money they worked for, and wealth is distributed to government allocation the end result is that people would choose to keep their stipends and not work. Stalin had a government solution, it was called forced labor camps.
 
History shows us that the left's idea of socially healthy is really socially putrid.

The idea that innovators would still create, dancers would still dance, artists would still paint, if they could not amass assets and trappings of wealth has been tried over and over again. Most recently in Soviet Russia and Communist China. It didn't work. Yes, you could take the Steve Jobs of the nation, put them in a room and tell them to invent "because we have your family". That's what it came down to. Talented dancers were told to dance, until they could defect. Same with painters, singers, artists of all kinds.

Russia and China both realized the error of their ways and now have systems more capitalist than communist, we will have to relive those days.

When people no longer can keep the money they worked for, and wealth is distributed to government allocation the end result is that people would choose to keep their stipends and not work. Stalin had a government solution, it was called forced labor camps.

Interestingly enough, Steve Jobs only had a HS diploma, and the reason he invented the Apple computer is because he wanted to see if it was possible to bring computers to the people, rather than just the ones that could write code.

It was because he had a good idea that he made a lot of cash. Same with Edison and all the other really good inventors.

Wall St. doesn't do anything other than shift money around and gamble on futures. What good does that do for the country?
 
The flaw in your thinking is the idea that availability of "jobs" and "products" depends on perpetuation of greed (billionaires). Do you believe that singers only sing and artists only paint and dancers only dance for money? Do you also believe that if Bill Gates died tomorrow Microsoft would go out of business? And can you explain why Ford is still going strong even though Henry has been dead for quite some time?

I believe if the accumulation of personal assets were limited to $20 million nothing would change except there would be lots more millionaires, no billionaires and a socially healthier Nation. What do you think of that?

You had an entire thread to make that argument and it failed miserably.. Yet here you are -- pushing the SOS.. Logic and reason, facts and history have no effect on your stupidity does it?
it's the first time i've read the question and i actually think it is a good question to contemplate and ask ourselves....!!!

and the answer is, yes, someone else would have come along that would have created what Jobs created....no guarantee that it would be done on the same time schedule or with the same gusto of Steve's, but as employers used to say when i was young, ''no one, is irreplaceable''....

I don't think there is any doubt about it.

The computer had already been created (UNIVAC). Then came the transistor. And the first actual microcomputer was a gadget called the Timex Sinclair. So Jobs' innovations were inevitable stages in the progression.

The contemporary microcomputer, like all well-developed technologies, is an advanced stage of an evolutionary process that began with the vacuum tube.
 
and the answer is, yes, someone else would have come along that would have created what Jobs created...

too stupid by 100!! If we want to pretend that Jobs was somehow
eliminated why not pretend that the some else
was eliminated too and we are living back in the stone age?
 
John Stossel last night pointed out how the Rockefellers put an end to whale hunting by making whale oil obsolete.

Hmmm, where are the left-wing nuts praising that move to "save the planet?"
 

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