I'm not paying your "tax"

[Big Fitz]

I been under Romney care for several years now. Damned time the rest of y'all had to pay the piper.

I don't get it. pay the piper for what?

 

[GWV5903]

Bitter and stupid, I would expect nothing less from the 'conservative' chic.

There are no criminal penalties. Period. That does not mean there will not or can not be civil penalties.

Ok Einstein, if you dont pay the "tax" what happens?

When you become injured or ill you will be treated and billed. When you don't pay the bill interest will accrue and eventually your obligation will be turned over to a collection agency, your credit rating will drop and you will be sued; a civil judgment will be ordered and enforced. Wages can be collected, income tax returns taken and life will change because of your own stupidity.

If you never need a doctor there will be no penalty; in that case you will live happily and in good health as a scofflaw.

Your dumber than a rock, they can not impose judgments now on medical bills, what a dumb ass...

 

[FactFinder]

I been under Romney care for several years now. Damned time the rest of y'all had to pay the piper.

I don't get it. pay the piper for what?

For your F'n share. We been doin it in Ma under Romney care. What you can't handle it?

 

[Big Fitz]

I been under Romney care for several years now. Damned time the rest of y'all had to pay the piper.

I don't get it. pay the piper for what?

For your F'n share. We been doin it in Ma under Romney care. What you can't handle it?

No. First you need to make sense. My fucking share of what? Your state's bad decision and Romney's big mistake? If you woulda been partisan and voted against it, you'd not be in this mess. The libs got what they wanted and now it sucks. Quelle suprise.

At the state level, all this bullshit is constitutional thanks to the separation of powers clause and the 10th amendment. Sucks, but if your state is too stupid to repeal it, you deserve what you get.

If we're too stupid to repeal this at the federal level, we deserve it as well.

 

[Vidi]

I don't get it. pay the piper for what?

For your F'n share. We been doin it in Ma under Romney care. What you can't handle it?

No. First you need to make sense. My fucking share of what? Your state's bad decision and Romney's big mistake? If you woulda been partisan and voted against it, you'd not be in this mess. The libs got what they wanted and now it sucks. Quelle suprise.

At the state level, all this bullshit is constitutional thanks to the separation of powers clause and the 10th amendment. Sucks, but if your state is too stupid to repeal it, you deserve what you get.

If we're too stupid to repeal this at the federal level, we deserve it as well.

Ok thats just nonsense.

I dont care if youre against the mandate. Thats fine. I hate it too. But damn man get your facts straight at least.

The individual mandate was first proposed by The Heritage Foundation, the ultra RIGHT wing group? ever hear of them?

And before you start in on the whole State vs Federal bullshit argument, they proposed it for the NATION, NOT on a state by state basis.

Next, you have Romneycare.

FACT SHEET:

-From 2006, the number of uninsured Massachusetts residents dropped from about 6% to about 2% in 2010
-Comparing the first half of 2007 to the first half of 2009, spending from the Health Safety Net Fund dropped 38%-40% as more people became insured
-According to the DHCFP's quarterly Key Indicator reports, 89,000 people bought healthcare insurance directly as of June 2009, up from 40,000 in June 2006.
-A study conducted by the Urban Institute and released in December 2010 by the Massachusetts Division of Health Care Finance and Policy stated that as of June 2010, 98.1 percent of state residents had coverage.

Massachusetts health care reform - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

“Here in Massachusetts for the last six years using a model just like national health care reform, the Affordable Care Act, we have reached 99.8 percent of children, over 98 percent of our overall population with insurance. We are healthier by any number of measures, the cost of health care has come down on a per capita basis, it has not busted the budget. There are more businesses offering insurance to their employees today than before health insurance went into effect, so all the list of horrors that Gov. Romney talked about, that the congressional Republicans have talked about were not actually reality here in Massachusetts where we have tried that.”

– Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick

The orphaned RomneyCare thrives nonetheless | Jay Bookman

and heres what Mitt had to say about it.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-Fzy7OnMoo]Romney Individual Mandate is ultimate conservatism » The Right Scoop - YouTube[/ame]

the ULTIMATE conservatism! He says.

No mandate he says, if that isnt socialism I dont know what is.



So please STOP pretending like the Conservatives LOST with this decision, Its a farce. The Conservatives WON big time...and they got the Democrats to do it for them. THATS powerful politicing right there.

 

[Clementine]

I cant wait til they throw people in jail for this.

Pelosi said she thought it was fair for people to go to jail if they don't follow orders, but then that bitch says a lot of stupid stuff.

 

[Vanquish]

They are NOT putting people in jail for this. For fuck's sake. It's written INTO THE LAW that you can't be put in jail for non payment.

The errors and spin are atrocious as hell.

 

[OohPooPahDoo]

Seriously. Slap fees on me. Go ahead. You will never see a dime you tyrannical clowns.

You don't make enough money to pay taxes anyway.

 

[dblack]

They are NOT putting people in jail for this. For fuck's sake. It's written INTO THE LAW that you can't be put in jail for non payment.

The errors and spin are atrocious as hell.

Heh.. ok..

BTW, I have this really lucrative investment opportunity you might be interested in. PM for details ....

 

[Stephanie]

Seriously. Slap fees on me. Go ahead. You will never see a dime you tyrannical clowns.

You don't make enough money to pay taxes anyway.

how the fuck do you know that?

 

[Sarah G]

Seriously. Slap fees on me. Go ahead. You will never see a dime you tyrannical clowns.

It isn't just a matter of slapping fees. Let's say you get into a horrific accident that renders you a vegetable. You don't have insurance so who pays your hospital bills and hospice care?

Your family, your kids.

This is why I hate libertarians, they are so selfish and cheap.

 

[dblack]

Seriously. Slap fees on me. Go ahead. You will never see a dime you tyrannical clowns.

It isn't just a matter of slapping fees. Let's say you get into a horrific accident that renders you a vegetable. You don't have insurance so who pays your hospital bills and hospice care?

Your family, your kids.

This is why I hate libertarians, they are so selfish and cheap.

You're the one pitching a bitch because people because poor people might cost you some money and you're calling libertarians selfish and cheap? How's that again?

 

[Sarah G]

Seriously. Slap fees on me. Go ahead. You will never see a dime you tyrannical clowns.

It isn't just a matter of slapping fees. Let's say you get into a horrific accident that renders you a vegetable. You don't have insurance so who pays your hospital bills and hospice care?

Your family, your kids.

This is why I hate libertarians, they are so selfish and cheap.

You're the one pitching a bitch because people because poor people might cost you some money and you're calling libertarians selfish and cheap? How's that again?

No, I'm the one trying to make you see who you are hurting if you remain uninsured because you are too cheap to pay anything for it. I'm not complaining about poor people costing me. I pay my taxes and my way.

 

[dblack]

It isn't just a matter of slapping fees. Let's say you get into a horrific accident that renders you a vegetable. You don't have insurance so who pays your hospital bills and hospice care?

Your family, your kids.

This is why I hate libertarians, they are so selfish and cheap.

You're the one pitching a bitch because people because poor people might cost you some money and you're calling libertarians selfish and cheap? How's that again?

No, I'm the one trying to make you see who you are hurting if you remain uninsured because you are too cheap to pay anything for it. I'm not complaining about poor people costing me. I pay my taxes and my way.

The people turning away from insurance are doing the right thing. Insurance is the problem, not the solution. It has created many of the problems we're now trying to resolve. It's driven health care inflation through the roof and we've painted ourselves into a corner by over-insuring and destroying sane market motivations. We need less insurance, not more. You're targeting people for persecution because they don't agree with your preferred method of financing your health care expenses. What gives you the right to force your preferences on others for your own fucking convenience?

 

[Sarah G]

You're the one pitching a bitch because people because poor people might cost you some money and you're calling libertarians selfish and cheap? How's that again?

No, I'm the one trying to make you see who you are hurting if you remain uninsured because you are too cheap to pay anything for it. I'm not complaining about poor people costing me. I pay my taxes and my way.

The people turning away from insurance are doing the right thing. Insurance is the problem, not the solution. It has created many of the problems we're now trying to resolve. It's driven health care inflation through the roof and we've painted ourselves into a corner by over-insuring and destroying sane market motivations. We need less insurance, not more. You're targeting people for persecution because they don't agree with your preferred method of financing your health care expenses. What gives you the right to force your preferences on others for your own fucking convenience?

You can't fight city hall by simply not going along with it. You will hurt people, mainly your family, they will pay for your mistakes.

 

[dblack]

no, i'm the one trying to make you see who you are hurting if you remain uninsured because you are too cheap to pay anything for it. I'm not complaining about poor people costing me. I pay my taxes and my way.

the people turning away from insurance are doing the right thing. Insurance is the problem, not the solution. It has created many of the problems we're now trying to resolve. It's driven health care inflation through the roof and we've painted ourselves into a corner by over-insuring and destroying sane market motivations. We need less insurance, not more. You're targeting people for persecution because they don't agree with your preferred method of financing your health care expenses. What gives you the right to force your preferences on others for your own fucking convenience?

you can't fight city hall by simply not going along with it. You will hurt people, mainly your family, they will pay for your mistakes.

wtf???

 

[GuyPinestra]

Did Obama ever start his "civilian army" yet???

Yep! They're called the New Black Panther Party...

 

[Vanquish]

They need to start a whole section of Snopes.com just for conservative wing-nut theories, I swear. No deathpanels. No death camps. No RFID chips. No bank account monitoring. Obama not born in another country. No civilian army. No criminal penalties for Healthcare tax.

 

[dblack]

They need to start a whole section of Snopes.com just for conservative wing-nut theories, I swear. No deathpanels. No death camps. No RFID chips. No bank account monitoring. Obama not born in another country. No civilian army. No criminal penalties for Healthcare tax.

Definitely. We could follow it up with the liberal equivocation that passive fools believe. "It's not a tax", "No criminal penalties (unless of course you don't pay the 'civil' penalties)".

 

[Moonglow]

it is only a tax to those that have to pay it, for the rest of us it is called insurance payments.