Im going to take a contreversial stand

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  1. actsnoblemartin
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    actsnoblemartin I love Andrea & April

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    I oppose speech to advocates or teaches how to carry out violence.

    For example, britain deported imams who preached violent jihad, I support that. I dont think we should re-active to crime, we should be pro-active.

    Teaching how to make bombs to blow up abortion clinic, buildings/animal testing research facilities, raping young boys and getting away with it, raping with women, making drugs, shold not be allowed.

    We have to draw a firm line in the sand and say, if you advocate violence against someone, whether its financially, or helping plan it, or carrying it out, that is a crime, and we should worry about saving potential victims from sometimes irreparable harm.
     
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    I think Britain has laws making this easier, however, there are laws in the US against insurrection, much the same thing. Our problem, not so easy to get around the first amendment regarding mosques and monitoring.
     
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    I truly think, we must monitor every mosque in america, to weed out moderate muslims from bad muslims, and every moderate muslims in the world, who helps, can either come to america, or be rewarded for their material help, in stopping radicals.

    I do not believe the first amendment meant, nor did the founding fathers, you can say anything you want, even if it promotes genocide, crimes against humanity, teaches how to commit domestic and international terrorist acts, and cause chaos, and victimize innocent people.



     
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    That ideology was a real event in England before the 17th century. Its why the few radical thinkers known as the founding fathers, broke ties to england.

    In other words, church's were being monitored in England, free speach was non existent. Why would you want to go back in time by monitoring places of worship? That is a terrible idea.

    Also, freespeach is exactly what the founding fathers were talking about. No matter who it is. If that individual commits a crime related to violence or any demeaning behavior that can harm another individual, then that is not considered free speach it is considered a felony.
     
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    manu1959 Left Coast Isolationist

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    so if i teach everyone to kill you and preach to them that you should be killed....you just need to sit tight and wait till i actually kill you...then you can have me arrested?
     
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    That is a threat of VIOLENCE, it is not free speach. I just said anything related to violent or demeaning behavior. If you threaten to kill someone, anyone on this planet can pick up a phone and stop that threatening by pressing charges on Threats of personal violence.
     
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    what if a call it a religion and hide behinde that and free speach laws....


    or .....should those that preach violence against american citizens and our government be........arrested?....deported?.....
     
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    Absolutely Brilliant, and that is my point, prevent crime, save victims. Stop worrying so much about the rights of criminals, and worry more about the rights of the victims, and make sure, we prevent as much terorrism and crime as possible.



     
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    You conterversial? :badgrin:
     
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    You do realize the power this would give to the government?
     

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