I'm for gutting the whole government system

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    Another reason why I say the political system needs to be gutted. Obamush's “kinetic military action” in libya and Congress has done nothing to stop it.

    Congress Caved

    Despite the attempt of a handful of senators to get the president to comply with the War Powers Act and to account for his action the rest of the senate collapsed like a house of cards. The week Sens. John Kerry and John McCain introduced a resolution allowing the use if limited force to remove Moammar Gadhafi from power. This action is pretty much a move to grant the White House a “get out of jail card” for his disregard of the law. Sen. McCain is leading the effort for bipartisan to help Obama break the law. There is no other way to describe what is happening.

    We are way past the 60 days of authorized “kinetic military action” against Libya.

    CNN is reporting that Senator McCain apparently thinks “the War Powers Act is constitutional and therefore he doesn’t believe the president needs congressional authorization to continue the mission.” McCain went on to say “I’ve never recognized the constitutionality of the War Powers Act, nor has any president, either Republican or Democrat,” Last I checked they complied with it, and deciding the constitutionality of a law is not up to a Senator.
    President Ignores War Powers Act. Congress does nothing «Coach is Right
     
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    In a nutshell governments are:
    (you could say therefore reasons to keep as small as possible)

    Inefficient
    Extremely wasteful
    no matter the style, at least moderately corrupt
    egotistical
    as a collective - extremely poor at decision making on every level
    disregard for public funds
    always pushing things from one extreme to the other, rarely finding a middle ground on anything.

    etc. etc. etc. etc.
     
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    And then drawing and quartering it.
     
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    The first step to healing is to quit hurting ourselves - i.e. STOP voting for Democrats and Republicans. That strategy is a proven failure.
     
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    I repeat voting no longer works. It hasn't worked for 150 years.
     
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    I'm inclined to agree with you, or at least hear you out. But doesn't it seem that it's the WAY we're voting that is the problem?
     
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    " We have met the enemy and it is us. " - Pogo, comic strip character

    The real problem to me is the public is not educating themselves on the issues of the day and communicating with their elected officials enough about it. And the media is biased, we don't get the whole unvarnished truth about anything. Look at the discourse, or what passes for discourse around here, alll we do is regurgitate talking points at one another and vilify and demagogue the other side. Not a lot of meaningful dialogue, why should we expect more of the pols in DC?

    I think it's going to take a significant cultural shock for people to wake up and realize some things must be changed, starting with attitudes. IMHO, we do need to remake gov't, by redefining it's roles and responsibilities. I'm hoping the coming election will provide an open debate on it, but I'm guessing that won't happen.
     
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    Does anybody have any name's or who's who for third party people?
    What about the people that work and don't have the time to really look into what's really going on.
    How about the one's who don't pay attention until maybe just the last month of an election?
    How do we get the third party candidates out there for everybody to see and look at, when the media and both parties are set up for just the Repubs and Dems?
     

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