Illegals Openly Campaign for Dems in Wash.

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    I'm sure a lot are voting too..:rolleyes:

    (AP) — When Maria Gianni is knocking on voters’ doors, she’s not bashful about telling people she is in the country illegally. She knows it‘s a risk to advertise to strangers that she’s here illegally — but one worth taking in what she sees as a crucial election.

    The 42-year-old is one of dozens of volunteers — many of them illegal immigrants — canvassing neighborhoods in the Seattle area trying to get naturalized citizens to cast a ballot for candidates like Democratic Sen. Patty Murray, who is in a neck-to-neck race with Republican Dino Rossi.

    Pramila Jayapal, head of OneAmerica Votes, says the campaign is about empowering immigrants who may not feel like they can contribute to a campaign because they can’t vote.

    “Immigrants really do matter,” Jayapal said. “If we can’t vote ourselves, we’re gonna knock on doors, or get family members to vote.”

    So far the illegal immigrants going door-to-door aren’t meeting opposition. Craig Keller, an organizer for Respect WA, a group pushing for stricter immigration law in the Washington, said he doesn’t mind illegal immigrants volunteering for vote drives, he just wants to make sure mistakes on the voter rolls don’t allow them to vote.

    “Anybody can go out and wave a sign, but when it comes to who’s making the choices, there’s no question they need to be citizens,” Keller said.

    In close elections across the country, the immigrant and minority vote is considered key for candidates, especially Democrats.



    Earlier this week in Nevada, a television ad urging Latinos not to vote sparked outcry from Democrats, who called it a dirty trick meant to keep Hispanics home and boost Republican candidates. Univision and Telemundo — the nation’s two largest Spanish-language networks — canceled the ad, which the Republican group Latinos for Reform had planned to eventually run in Nevada, Florida, California, Texas and Colorado through the Nov. 2 election.

    Seattle is home to a wide array of immigrant communities, from Latinos to east Africans and Asians.

    Congress declined this year to consider overhauling the country’s immigration law, much to the chagrin of immigrant advocates who had expected Democrats to do so by now.

    Still, OneAmerica Votes launched one of the largest get-out-the-vote campaigns in the state on behalf of Democratic candidates. The organization is an offshoot of OneAmerica, one of the state’s largest and the most influential immigrant-rights advocacy group.

    Through home visits, phone banks and mailings the organization is aiming to reach about 40,000 registered voters in the Seattle area in an attempt to help Democrats gain ground in key races. Volunteers include other types of people who can’t vote, such as legal permanent residents.

    About 150 volunteers rolled out in nine cities across Washington this past week, knocking on 3,000 doors.

    In Bellevue, a city of nearly 123,000 east of Seattle, Gianni knocked on 25 doors and spoke to 15 people, she said.

    One man, a naturalized citizen from the Philippines, said he knew what she was going through after she shared she was in the country illegally.

    “There’s always a risk,” Gianni said in Spanish about her legal status. “But if there’s a change, I would feel like I contributed, even in a small part, to a change we all need.”

    Gianni arrived in the United States on a visa 13 years ago looking for work and stayed. For a while her only son lived here, but has since moved back to Mexico.

    “In order for there to be a change to our broken immigration system,” she said, “I believe one has to fight.”
     
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    Over half the world would like to live in the U.S. for a "better life". Should we let in over 3 BILLION people? Why do illegals get to cut to the front of line, while millions of people around the world follow the rules and wait legally for years to live in the U.S.?
     
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    "Hello, 9-1-1. What's your emergency?"

    We're being INVADED,

    and NOW the mofo's think they have the RIGHT to come to my door

    and FLAUNT their criminal intentions!!!

    HURRY!!! Before someone gets their ass blown off!

    And NOT in a nicey-nice BJ sort of way.
     
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    Sure.

    The more the merrier.

     
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    In all seriousness, we should seal the border, throw the illegals out, and stop immigration until every American has a job. All those Returd CEOs need to pick lettuce, beans, and cotton in the fields, or grab a shovel.
     
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    Throw them the hell out of the nation.

    Ssriously, its one thing for them to be here. That is bad enough but I am somewhat sympathetic to the fact that they're escaping a country that doesn't work

    It's entirely another thing if they become political tools, too.

    That is as annoying as the US Chamber of Commerce taking foreign money to help the GOP influence the vote so that we continue deindutrializing this nation.
     
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    when will the wall be high enough over juarez?
     
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    Go find out what those words mean. Then come back and apologize for your partisan idiocy.
     
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    With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
    Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
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    Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
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    In-state college tuition for illegal aliens

    The college tuition that a resident pays to a public college or university in their home state is called "in-state tuition". Typically this is much less than the tuition charged to students who come from out-of-state. Allowing an illegal alien student to pay less than an American student is wrong. Yet this is currently being promoted in Congress under the DREAM act.

    Under U.S. law, illegal aliens may not hold any job in the United States. Thus, tax dollars expended on higher education illegal aliens to prepare them for professional careers serves only to draw more illegal aliens to those states offering in-state tuition.

    When an illegal alien is granted in-state tuition and admission to a state university, he or she is directly competing with American students for that educational slot. This competition is unfairly biased against American students in other states who must pay out-of-state tuition to attend the university, while the illegal alien student is given in-state tuition preference.

    In California in 2003, MALDEF engaged in an all-out effort to promote the news about in-state college tuition for illegal aliens. (MALDEF: see Funding Hate articles). In-state college tuition for illegal aliens contributes to a de facto illegal-alien amnesty.

    Federal Law Title 8, Chapter 14, Sec. 1623 states:

    "an alien who is not lawfully present in the United States shall not be eligible on the basis of residence within a State... for any postsecondary education benefit unless a citizen or national of the United States is eligible for such a benefit."

    Friends of Immigration Law Enforcement is asking American students who pay out-of-state tuition to colleges and universities where illegal aliens receive in-state tuition to sue the colleges and universities for reimbursement of the tuition difference.

    Talking points against in-state College Tuition
    In-state college tuition for illegal aliens will give benefits to adult or nearly-adult children over the age of 18 whose parents are also illegal aliens. This is not a bill that gives benefits to "youngsters". Taxpayers will pay the difference.
    A 1996 Federal law mandates that if instate rates are given to illegals, those rates must also be given to all applicants of each state's colleges and universities from the other 49 states. Although the law is not actively enforced, giving in-state tuition to illegal aliens is a clear violation of federal law.
    HB1187 is an amnesty disguised as an educational initiative.
    College entrants slots are fixed and limited. The bill would place each state's citizens in direct competition with adult illegal aliens for limited slots and tuition benefits.
    Giving in-state college tuition to adult illegal aliens residing in each state would give them benefits not given to American citizens in other states ( e.g., war veterans).
    Providing in-state tuition to illegal aliens tells legally applying foreign students they are suckers for not becoming illegal aliens.
    50% of Colorado University applicants come from out of state and from out of the country. (March 25 Boulder Daily Camera story, "CU pulls big from outside Colorado").
    Tuition rates at CU went up 15% last year and there was talk of raising this year's tuition by another 40%.
    Illegal aliens now pour in from all over the world at a rate of more than 80,000 a month. The Wal-Mart immigration sweep of October, 2003, netted large numbers from Mexico, the Czech Republic, Mongolia, Brazil, Poland, Russia, Uzbekistan, Georgia, Lithuania and some from from African and Asian countries. Because of virtually no internal enforcement, illegal aliens typically bring their entire families into the U.S. There is a potential for a vast number of illegal aliens to receive in-state tuition at taxpayer expense. Thus, the amended HB 1187 would give an adult illegal alien from Uzbekistan and all the nearly 200 countries of the world benefits that would be denied to American citizens, an absurdity.
    If the claimed 1,000 illegals graduating from Colorado high schools enrolled at CU-Boulder at in-state rates for four years, revenue losses would exceed $65 million (Out-of-state citizen tuition rates = $20,346. Instate rates = $4,022. Loss of one four-year student = $65,296 million.)
    Colorado's elected officials are now voting on issues influenced by illegal aliens and their supporters residing in the districts of the state elected officials. Democratic representation of Colorado's citizens is being eroded by ethnic pandering that emphasizes illegal aliens.
    Standard argument and reasoned response:

    Claim: "Yes, but children of undocumented workers should not be punished for what their parents did."

    Response: Should America's citizen students be punished for the illegal acts of illegal-alien parents residing?"
    - Since when is the state government in the business of coming to the rescue of adults whose parents committed illegal or imprudent acts?
    - Those adult illegal aliens need to go back to mom and dad and hold them accountable.
    - In the case of Mexican adult illegal aliens, they can easily return to Mexico to receive a virtually free college education at the University of Mexico.
     
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