If they delete the ACA , we will have to go all out for the Universal Healthcare!!

Needless to say, invalidating the ACA would be madness:

"As many as 133 million Americans — roughly half the population under the age of 65 — have pre-existing medical conditions that could disqualify them from buying a health insurance policy or cause them to pay significantly higher premiums if the health law were overturned…

…about 21 million are at serious risk of becoming uninsured if Obamacare is struck down.

…more than 12 million low-income adults who have gained Medicaid coverage through the law’s expansion of the program could lose it.

… 109 million people would face lifetime limits on their coverage without the health law…

60 million Medicare beneficiaries would face changes to medical care and possibly higher premiums…

The Urban Institute estimated that nationwide, without the A.C.A., the cost of care for people who cannot pay for it could increase as much as $50.2 billion."


If by chance the scotus throws it out and even with trump promising pre x will be covered rates will not come down simply because of the pre x. Now, if pre x isn't guaranteed and it's back to the old days of asking health question's rates will come down but not as much as everyone is hoping and the very same people on this board that want's to get rid of any kind of guaranteed health insurance will be screaming when they are either declined are charge much more money for their policy than one the same age and sex because of a pre x.
If ACA is completely thrown out, cheap catastrophic plans will be legal again. That, combined with a saving account to cover the deductible, is by far the best way to go.

That's if you have the income to cover that savings account. Over half of the population no longer has any disposable income.
Sure, poor people have it rough. We should give them a hand. But that's no excuse to indulge the socialists who want government to control every. fucking. thing.

And how are we going to give them a helping hand without some idiot screaming, "That's Socialism" at the top of their lungs? You tell ME where do we draw the line. And that is the problem of trying to get rid of the ACA. No Replacement and the Courts don't allow the total removal of the ACA. Yes, promises keep being made but it's been about 20 years worth of empty promises.
 
And if Joe Biden wins and the Senate too,

we will have a nuclear option to vote on Universal Healthcare.

See the republicans and tramp don't want to pay for ACA, (its only the wealthy who pay for subsidies)

So they will get up paying even more.

Even Medicare sucks. Universal Healthcare is coming.

All is on the table. All rules are on the table. Maybe Biden can even write an executive order.
Healthcare debate is simple. Get a fucking job and pay for your own insurance.

Let me guess. The New ACA replacement is:

1. Don't 'get sick
2. If you do, die quickly
 
We will have to go for Universal Healthcare, not Medicare. Universal Healthcare is free, Medicare is not.
Nothing is free in this world

the federal government is already running a budget deficit

in order to increase spending on people who cant pay it will have to reduce services to those who already have health insurance - and raise their taxes

Everyone will pay taxes according to income, see how that works.

Well they should of given themselves a tax cut.

Everyone?

Even people who have no income?

You're so dumb.
 
And if Joe Biden wins and the Senate too,

we will have a nuclear option to vote on Universal Healthcare.

See the republicans and tramp don't want to pay for ACA, (its only the wealthy who pay for subsidies)

So they will get up paying even more.

Even Medicare sucks. Universal Healthcare is coming.

All is on the table. All rules are on the table. Maybe Biden can even write an executive order.
Healthcare debate is simple. Get a fucking job and pay for your own insurance.

Let me guess. The New ACA replacement is:

1. Don't 'get sick
2. If you do, die quickly
Do you honestly think Obamacare was a success? Nothing about his promises were true. He fuked up royally
 
And how are we going to give them a helping hand without some idiot screaming, "That's Socialism" at the top of their lungs?
However we like! I mostly focus on taking care of family and friends. But I keep an eye out for other opportunities.
And that is the problem of trying to get rid of the ACA. No Replacement and the Courts don't allow the total removal of the ACA.
Why do you say the Courts don't allow the total removal of ACA?
 
And if Joe Biden wins and the Senate too,

we will have a nuclear option to vote on Universal Healthcare.

See the republicans and tramp don't want to pay for ACA, (its only the wealthy who pay for subsidies)

So they will get up paying even more.

Even Medicare sucks. Universal Healthcare is coming.

All is on the table. All rules are on the table. Maybe Biden can even write an executive order.
Healthcare debate is simple. Get a fucking job and pay for your own insurance.

Let me guess. The New ACA replacement is:

1. Don't 'get sick
2. If you do, die quickly

No, the ACA replacement is:

1. The government isn't your caretaker/master.
 
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And if Joe Biden wins and the Senate too, we will have a nuclear option to vote on Universal Healthcare.

It would take a sick fuck deranged fool like you to run like hell from a competitive free market with quality of service and price driving the market back to the government to please, PLEASE, PLEASE! govern our lives, health and bodies for us instead, where the less they spend, the better for THEM.
 
And if Joe Biden wins and the Senate too,

we will have a nuclear option to vote on Universal Healthcare.

See the republicans and tramp don't want to pay for ACA, (its only the wealthy who pay for subsidies)

So they will get up paying even more.

Even Medicare sucks. Universal Healthcare is coming.

All is on the table. All rules are on the table. Maybe Biden can even write an executive order.
Healthcare debate is simple. Get a fucking job and pay for your own insurance.

Let me guess. The New ACA replacement is:

1. Don't 'get sick
2. If you do, die quickly

Keep guessing.
 
And how are we going to give them a helping hand without some idiot screaming, "That's Socialism" at the top of their lungs?
However we like! I mostly focus on taking care of family and friends. But I keep an eye out for other opportunities.
And that is the problem of trying to get rid of the ACA. No Replacement and the Courts don't allow the total removal of the ACA.
Why do you say the Courts don't allow the total removal of ACA?

Ah, such a selective memory you have there.
 
And if Joe Biden wins and the Senate too,

we will have a nuclear option to vote on Universal Healthcare.

See the republicans and tramp don't want to pay for ACA, (its only the wealthy who pay for subsidies)

So they will get up paying even more.

Even Medicare sucks. Universal Healthcare is coming.

All is on the table. All rules are on the table. Maybe Biden can even write an executive order.
Healthcare debate is simple. Get a fucking job and pay for your own insurance.

Let me guess. The New ACA replacement is:

1. Don't 'get sick
2. If you do, die quickly

No, the ACA replacement is:

1. The government isn't your caretaker/master.

Which does not contradict my rule #1 or Rule #2.
 
Needless to say, invalidating the ACA would be madness:

"As many as 133 million Americans — roughly half the population under the age of 65 — have pre-existing medical conditions that could disqualify them from buying a health insurance policy or cause them to pay significantly higher premiums if the health law were overturned…

…about 21 million are at serious risk of becoming uninsured if Obamacare is struck down.

…more than 12 million low-income adults who have gained Medicaid coverage through the law’s expansion of the program could lose it.

… 109 million people would face lifetime limits on their coverage without the health law…

60 million Medicare beneficiaries would face changes to medical care and possibly higher premiums…

The Urban Institute estimated that nationwide, without the A.C.A., the cost of care for people who cannot pay for it could increase as much as $50.2 billion."


If by chance the scotus throws it out and even with trump promising pre x will be covered rates will not come down simply because of the pre x. Now, if pre x isn't guaranteed and it's back to the old days of asking health question's rates will come down but not as much as everyone is hoping and the very same people on this board that want's to get rid of any kind of guaranteed health insurance will be screaming when they are either declined are charge much more money for their policy than one the same age and sex because of a pre x.
Correct, Trump can’t do anything about preexisting conditions with an EO – it has no force of law.

And yes, it’s back to the bad old days where millions of Americans will not have access to affordable healthcare and where healthcare costs will continue to rise.
 
We will have to go for Universal Healthcare, not Medicare. Universal Healthcare is free, Medicare is not.
Nothing is free in this world

the federal government is already running a budget deficit

in order to increase spending on people who cant pay it will have to reduce services to those who already have health insurance - and raise their taxes

Everyone will pay taxes according to income, see how that works.

Well they should of given themselves a tax cut.

STILL WAITING
 
We will have to go for Universal Healthcare, not Medicare. Universal Healthcare is free, Medicare is not.
Nothing is free in this world

the federal government is already running a budget deficit

in order to increase spending on people who cant pay it will have to reduce services to those who already have health insurance - and raise their taxes

Everyone will pay taxes according to income, see how that works.

Well they should of given themselves a tax cut.

STILL WAITING

Well they haven't deleted it yet, have they??
 
We will have to go for Universal Healthcare, not Medicare. Universal Healthcare is free, Medicare is not.
Nothing is free in this world

the federal government is already running a budget deficit

in order to increase spending on people who cant pay it will have to reduce services to those who already have health insurance - and raise their taxes

Everyone will pay taxes according to income, see how that works.

Well they should of given themselves a tax cut.
The system couldn’t support the ACA even with the unconstitutional fines for not signing up.

Universal Healthcare will fail because it can’t be supported.
 
We will have to go for Universal Healthcare, not Medicare. Universal Healthcare is free, Medicare is not.
Nothing is free in this world

the federal government is already running a budget deficit

in order to increase spending on people who cant pay it will have to reduce services to those who already have health insurance - and raise their taxes

Everyone will pay taxes according to income, see how that works.

Well they should of given themselves a tax cut.

STILL WAITING

Well they haven't deleted it yet, have they??

Why should they? Just because you don't want to face the music doesn't mean you get to have it deleted. It is a legitimate question I asked, and you, as I expected either can't or refuse to answer. Expecting the Mods to assist you in dodging the question like ALL Liberal, progressive, socialist, spread the wealth Democrats shows how ignorant you are.
Just answer the question. How much is ENOUGH?

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