If The Economy Is So Great Why Can't Most People Miss One Paycheck?

[Cecilie1200]

I already pointed out how McDonald's will make up the difference, and that is a "slight' price increase on each of the thousands of items they sell a day. Bob can't do that.

Pricewise, Bob is already at a disadvantage with places like Home Depot, Lowes, and the internet. About 15 years ago one of our local hardware stores announced they were closing down. I spoke with the owner who placed the cause on a new Home Depot that opened up about ten miles away from his store. Lost for the future, he was questioning me about a career in trucking.

It was a wonderful store. Family owned and operated. They were even open all day Sunday.

At the time, I was making a delivery to a local company where I knew some of the workers from the area. One of them approached me about the closing of the hardware store, and how terrible it was. With that comment, I asked him "out of the last five times you purchased hardware, where did you go, to our local hardware store or Home Depot?" He bowed his head and said "Home Depot." I responded by saying "That's why he's closing up!"

So now Bob not only has to be competitive with super stores and the internet, he now has to deal with a huge minimum wage increase on top of that. How can he raise his prices anymore than he already has without putting himself out of business?

Thanks To The Fight For $15 Minimum Wage, Small Businesses Close And Employees Are Laid Off

Sorry to hear about Bob.

Home Depot, Costco, Walmart killed lots and lots of small businesses LOOOOOONG before MW increases even in the 80s.
So there’s no way you can blame MW Increases.


That’s the same happening overseas.

Walmart has helped more businesses than it ever hurt. Walmart is what's called an anchor store. Anchor stores draw people to a complex, and other vendors benefit by the amount of people the anchor store is attracting.

Even the contracts for those smaller stores are written around the anchor store. If the anchor store leaves, it allows the other stores to break their leases, because those smaller businesses know they can't be profitable on their own without the anchor.

True but that’s the nature of big business. That has nothing to do with with MW.
The same when I killed my competitors.

Do you realize that you'd have a better shot at pretending to be a business genius on the Internet if your posts weren't borderline illiterate? Seriously, I have a 10-year-old with better English skills.

You know as well as I do every single liberal on USMB is either a business owner, independently wealthy, or comfortably retried. Some claim to work from home.

Me? I'm the only truck driver here!

True. The cognitive dissonance from "I'm a wealthy retired successful business owner who uses grammar a 5th-grader would be embarrassed by" often makes my eyes cross.

I work for a living. I'm okay with that. I have no patience with modern notions that honest work is something to be ashamed of.

 

[charwin95]

When it comes to a full circle, the minimum wage worker finds himself in the exact same position he was in before the hike because now everything else costs more. The only people that made out were the politicians because now you are getting taxed at a higher rate. That's the only reason they are behind it.

EXACTLY!

Not only does it come full circle...
making more but with higher prices, no different than before

But, when you make more, you get back less in taxes
and many will lose or have government benefits reduced...
which is fine with me anyway

There needs to be a increase in tax revenue
to compensate for the flood of immigrants into the country
How the hell anyone is ok with, paying more, getting less
so others could have more is fucking beyond me

Whats going to happen when the next recession hits....
Because it will

Banks, credit cards, car loans are operating on
disposable income from immigrants
who rely on government assistance

When that segment of the population starts defaulting
it’s going to turn into a bigger financial mess than the last

There should be a head tax on all Hispanic and the like
Whether it be Mexican, Honduran, Guatemalan
There should be a central fund created to offset the costs
of schooling, feeding, housing and providing healthcare
for the flood of Central and Latin America immigrants
paid for and funded by them exclusively

I do not understand how people are that fucking dense
when it comes to simple, basic math
When you are doling out funds for 500 people
that only 100 people have contributed to
and none of which are of the 500....WTF

Well like I’ve asked the same question over and over.

Name me any establishment or any business categories that went out of business because of MW increase.

All I heard over and over are mostly an opinion from anti MW increase.

And people are not fucking dense. I’m talking about facts and reality.

Name me any establishment or any business categories that went out of business because of MW increase.

No company ever goes under when expenses increase. Wow! Cool story bro.

It’s not a story. I’m asking facts. I’ve been in this industry very very long. And I know lots of lots of businesses from different categories.

So ALL these opinions, philosophical bulshit about MW....... I have not seen a single one.
The same cow dung when Seattle started the MW increases.

And I know lots of lots of businesses from different categories.

And no business ever goes under when their expenses increase?

Rental space but I have not seen because of MW increase.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

EXACTLY!

Not only does it come full circle...
making more but with higher prices, no different than before

But, when you make more, you get back less in taxes
and many will lose or have government benefits reduced...
which is fine with me anyway

There needs to be a increase in tax revenue
to compensate for the flood of immigrants into the country
How the hell anyone is ok with, paying more, getting less
so others could have more is fucking beyond me

Whats going to happen when the next recession hits....
Because it will

Banks, credit cards, car loans are operating on
disposable income from immigrants
who rely on government assistance

When that segment of the population starts defaulting
it’s going to turn into a bigger financial mess than the last

There should be a head tax on all Hispanic and the like
Whether it be Mexican, Honduran, Guatemalan
There should be a central fund created to offset the costs
of schooling, feeding, housing and providing healthcare
for the flood of Central and Latin America immigrants
paid for and funded by them exclusively

I do not understand how people are that fucking dense
when it comes to simple, basic math
When you are doling out funds for 500 people
that only 100 people have contributed to
and none of which are of the 500....WTF

Well like I’ve asked the same question over and over.

Name me any establishment or any business categories that went out of business because of MW increase.

All I heard over and over are mostly an opinion from anti MW increase.

And people are not fucking dense. I’m talking about facts and reality.

Name me any establishment or any business categories that went out of business because of MW increase.

No company ever goes under when expenses increase. Wow! Cool story bro.

It’s not a story. I’m asking facts. I’ve been in this industry very very long. And I know lots of lots of businesses from different categories.

So ALL these opinions, philosophical bulshit about MW....... I have not seen a single one.
The same cow dung when Seattle started the MW increases.

And I know lots of lots of businesses from different categories.

And no business ever goes under when their expenses increase?

Rental space but I have not seen because of MW increase.

But it's possible one has somewhere outside your view.

 

[charwin95]

Agree. However.

1. McDonald’s can make up the difference easily.

2. Business like Bobs hardware as your example will always raise prices. Most or all businesses raise prices every year. That’s a fact. Even restaurants.

3. Businesses give regular increases to their employees. That’s a fact.


***1.. So far I have not seen that. That is why I asked the same question over and over. Name me one establishment that went out of business because of this MW increase?

***2. That’s just an opinion from anti minimum wage. I repeat the same question.



The sad part with all these arguments is. There are tons of companies that give starting salaries over $15/ hour. Even a high school graduate.

My minimum lowest entry level is $16+ hour.

I already pointed out how McDonald's will make up the difference, and that is a "slight' price increase on each of the thousands of items they sell a day. Bob can't do that.

Pricewise, Bob is already at a disadvantage with places like Home Depot, Lowes, and the internet. About 15 years ago one of our local hardware stores announced they were closing down. I spoke with the owner who placed the cause on a new Home Depot that opened up about ten miles away from his store. Lost for the future, he was questioning me about a career in trucking.

It was a wonderful store. Family owned and operated. They were even open all day Sunday.

At the time, I was making a delivery to a local company where I knew some of the workers from the area. One of them approached me about the closing of the hardware store, and how terrible it was. With that comment, I asked him "out of the last five times you purchased hardware, where did you go, to our local hardware store or Home Depot?" He bowed his head and said "Home Depot." I responded by saying "That's why he's closing up!"

So now Bob not only has to be competitive with super stores and the internet, he now has to deal with a huge minimum wage increase on top of that. How can he raise his prices anymore than he already has without putting himself out of business?

Thanks To The Fight For $15 Minimum Wage, Small Businesses Close And Employees Are Laid Off

I know I already responded to this post Ray.

Home Depot, Lowe’s, Walmart kills just about every small businesses in the communities. There is nothing illegal it’s a nature of doing business. That has nothing to do with MW.

Even if Bob hardware is selling lower than Home Depot prices your friend Bob will eventually close down. Not because of MW.

Even if Bob will not increase his MW. Bob will close. His business will close not because of MW.

It's amazing how you leftists read words, and it goes through your brain to mean something totally different than what you read.

The post clearly says those businesses closed down or laid off people because of the new minimum wage, not because of Walmart which has been around many years before the new MW started.

I read your post very clearly Ray. I did not stuttered.

1. Like I already said before I don’t trust you Ray. Not for a bit. So I don’t believe your story.

2. But let me entertain you...... Let me go a a bit further. The MW wage incremental. You do know that.

3. Are you telling me Bobs or any hardware stores cannot increases his prices to match the MW incremental prices?

4. Are you telling me bob or any stores never increase prices before?

5. Are you telling me that bob or any stores only sell one screw, one bulb, one wood?

If Bob or any stores do not practice those kinds or adopt to any kind of changes. Then they do not deserve to exist. Companies or any businesses increase prices just about every year to make up any expenses.

My friend that own PCB assembly productions ( feed thru & surface mount) in Santa Ana, Ca just bought AI ( auto insertion) machine. It’s a machine install components to a circuit board. Cost $280k. How and where do you think he will recover that expenses?

What do you mean you don't trust me? I didn't write the article, it's from Forbes, and by reading your response, I bet you never even clicked on the link yet alone read the article.

A $15.00 minimum wage only does one thing, and that is cause inflation and cost of living increases. It's why in your state, a 200K home is just about ghetto and over here, a 200K home is middle-class or upper middle-class.

With the competition of overseas products, the last thing we need to do is further inflate ourselves out of the world market. It would cause more companies to move overseas because of labor costs. It would also influence more companies to invest in automation.

Any link you or any provided are coming from anti MW. Meaning it’s totally BULLSHIT or fabricated. Repeat BULLSHIT.
I read your link just to entertain you. Did you read them or you just stared at it?

1. Kelley Ulmer owner of almost perfect. Look at the wording. In 2016 ever increasing MW. How many times did MW increase in 2016? Any specifics?
Most likely they got run over by Amazon.

2. Houman Salem..moving his operations from California to Las Vegas because of $15 MW. Another BULLSHIT. The $15 MW will not take effect till 2022.

3. Nat Cutler. Closed his stores in 2015 due to rising MW. Another BULLSHIT. The MW increase has not even started yet. Most likely it’s the rental space.

I don’t want to waste my time with the rest. Try again.


With the competition overseas. How many times did you or your buddies here complained? Americans will do the dirty jobs as long the pay is good. And you are belly aching for $15 MW?
We cannot compete overseas no matter how low you want.

 

[charwin95]

Well...... so far all I heard is an opinion of bad here and there. I asked a very simple question. MW increase has started about 5 years ago here and there. So I’m asking the same question again.

Name me any enterprise any business categories any McDonald’s that went out business because of MW increase?
Please ANYBODY.

Minimum wage impacts businesses differently.

McDonald's sells 1000 hamburgers a day, 1200 french fires, 1600 beverages. But Bob at Bob's hardware doesn't sell 400 boxes of nails or screws every day. So you won't see any noticeable price increases at McDonald's, but you will at Bob's.

***1. If your employer gives you a dollar an hour raise, it costs your employer more than that dollar because of associated expenses. A huge increase like nearly doubling it would drive people out of business because of that reason.

***2... The worst part is that a huge minimum wage increase causes a domino effect. If you got out of high school and got a job at a manufacturer of some sort, and started out at $9.00 an hour, eventually you will make $15.00 an hour in a couple of years. All of a sudden, you find yourself back at minimum wage because of some Democrat politicians. Are you going to continue doing your job at minimum wage? Of course not. You are going to demand to be paid at least five bucks an hour over minimum. Okay, fine. But then what about the guy at your shop who's been there much longer and is making $20.00 an hour?

When it comes to a full circle, the minimum wage worker finds himself in the exact same position he was in before the hike because now everything else costs more. The only people that made out were the politicians because now you are getting taxed at a higher rate. That's the only reason they are behind it.

Agree. However.

1. McDonald’s can make up the difference easily.

2. Business like Bobs hardware as your example will always raise prices. Most or all businesses raise prices every year. That’s a fact. Even restaurants.

3. Businesses give regular increases to their employees. That’s a fact.


***1.. So far I have not seen that. That is why I asked the same question over and over. Name me one establishment that went out of business because of this MW increase?

***2. That’s just an opinion from anti minimum wage. I repeat the same question.



The sad part with all these arguments is. There are tons of companies that give starting salaries over $15/ hour. Even a high school graduate.

My minimum lowest entry level is $16+ hour.

I already pointed out how McDonald's will make up the difference, and that is a "slight' price increase on each of the thousands of items they sell a day. Bob can't do that.

Pricewise, Bob is already at a disadvantage with places like Home Depot, Lowes, and the internet. About 15 years ago one of our local hardware stores announced they were closing down. I spoke with the owner who placed the cause on a new Home Depot that opened up about ten miles away from his store. Lost for the future, he was questioning me about a career in trucking.

It was a wonderful store. Family owned and operated. They were even open all day Sunday.

At the time, I was making a delivery to a local company where I knew some of the workers from the area. One of them approached me about the closing of the hardware store, and how terrible it was. With that comment, I asked him "out of the last five times you purchased hardware, where did you go, to our local hardware store or Home Depot?" He bowed his head and said "Home Depot." I responded by saying "That's why he's closing up!"

So now Bob not only has to be competitive with super stores and the internet, he now has to deal with a huge minimum wage increase on top of that. How can he raise his prices anymore than he already has without putting himself out of business?

Thanks To The Fight For $15 Minimum Wage, Small Businesses Close And Employees Are Laid Off

I know I already responded to this post Ray.

Home Depot, Lowe’s, Walmart kills just about every small businesses in the communities. There is nothing illegal it’s a nature of doing business. That has nothing to do with MW.

Even if Bob hardware is selling lower than Home Depot prices your friend Bob will eventually close down. Not because of MW.

Even if Bob will not increase his MW. Bob will close. His business will close not because of MW.

Really? Because here in Amarillo, we have 2 HD's and 2 Lowe's. And, believe it or not, there are still mom and pop hardware stores. A couple of them, I know have been in business since 1999, because that is when I got here to Amarillo, and those places were here when I got here, and I still go to them on occasion, because they know more about their products than the workers at the mega stores.

They are just lucky. Most or all have closed down.

 

[Cecilie1200]

You just simply against MW.

I'm against it because it's bad economics.

Well...... so far all I heard is an opinion of bad here and there. I asked a very simple question. MW increase has started about 5 years ago here and there. So I’m asking the same question again.

Name me any enterprise any business categories any McDonald’s that went out business because of MW increase?
Please ANYBODY.

Straw man. When you have to narrow your parameters that specifically - "business category" - in order to try to falsely generate the answer you want to get, it's an indication that your reasoning is shit, and you know it and don't care.

Is your position REALLY that minimum-wage laws can't be considered detrimental unless entire industries shut down? As long as it's just individual businesses across the spectrum, fuck it, everything's great? My family-owned book store went under and we went bankrupt, but Amazon is still selling books, so all is well?

I’ll try to be nice and professional not to lower self to your low life pig style especially your friend Ray likes it.

All I’m asking is very simple. Name me one. If you cannot then get the fuck out.

Your family business close because of amazon. That is not because MW. There are tons of reasons why people likes to buy at Amazon. Not because of MW.

"I'll avoid your point entirely and pretend that it's being 'nice'."

Stuff your nice and try being honest. I already pointed out how your question is a straw man, and a badly-made one at that, so repeating it and demanding that I treat it like a real question isn't going to magically make it real.

"People don't buy from Amazon because of minimum wage, which makes minimum wage a good thing!" Another straw man. Seriously, you've spent way too much time learning to be "nice" in the hope that it would somehow make you not a piece of shit, and not nearly enough time learning how to actually think.

Oh, and FYI, trying to shame people into self-censoring only works on people who actually respect you. Write it down somewhere so you don't forget.

If you talk to me professionally I will talk to you professionally. You started it. Asshole....
If you talk to me like shit because you are piece of shit. I will talk to you what you deserve.

Just because you cannot answer my simple question. Doesn’t mean I’m a straw man. It only means you are not capable of anything.

I never said people buys at Amazon because of MW. People buys at Amazon for several reasons. Myself don’t go to Barnes and nobles or book store anymore. I go to Amazon. You are ignorant.,

If you deserved to be spoken to "professionally", I would do so. You continue to make the mistake of thinking that your opinion matters to me. A common mistake among leftists who've been taught that they're the center of the universe simply for breathing. Save your advice on how to gain your approval for someone who wants it.

Just because you ask a question doesn't mean you get to demand an answer, Torquemada. And just because you pretend that your "simple question" hasn't been exposed as a straw man doesn't mean it didn't happen. "Your question is fallacious bullshit" IS an answer.

And I didn't say YOU were a straw man, you illiterate troll. My God, how do you survive day-to-day being so clueless?

Bullshit question. Bullshit poster. Welcome to the world outside your leftist bubble, where you're receiving the respect you've earned, fool.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I already pointed out how McDonald's will make up the difference, and that is a "slight' price increase on each of the thousands of items they sell a day. Bob can't do that.

Pricewise, Bob is already at a disadvantage with places like Home Depot, Lowes, and the internet. About 15 years ago one of our local hardware stores announced they were closing down. I spoke with the owner who placed the cause on a new Home Depot that opened up about ten miles away from his store. Lost for the future, he was questioning me about a career in trucking.

It was a wonderful store. Family owned and operated. They were even open all day Sunday.

At the time, I was making a delivery to a local company where I knew some of the workers from the area. One of them approached me about the closing of the hardware store, and how terrible it was. With that comment, I asked him "out of the last five times you purchased hardware, where did you go, to our local hardware store or Home Depot?" He bowed his head and said "Home Depot." I responded by saying "That's why he's closing up!"

So now Bob not only has to be competitive with super stores and the internet, he now has to deal with a huge minimum wage increase on top of that. How can he raise his prices anymore than he already has without putting himself out of business?

Thanks To The Fight For $15 Minimum Wage, Small Businesses Close And Employees Are Laid Off

I know I already responded to this post Ray.

Home Depot, Lowe’s, Walmart kills just about every small businesses in the communities. There is nothing illegal it’s a nature of doing business. That has nothing to do with MW.

Even if Bob hardware is selling lower than Home Depot prices your friend Bob will eventually close down. Not because of MW.

Even if Bob will not increase his MW. Bob will close. His business will close not because of MW.

It's amazing how you leftists read words, and it goes through your brain to mean something totally different than what you read.

The post clearly says those businesses closed down or laid off people because of the new minimum wage, not because of Walmart which has been around many years before the new MW started.

I read your post very clearly Ray. I did not stuttered.

1. Like I already said before I don’t trust you Ray. Not for a bit. So I don’t believe your story.

2. But let me entertain you...... Let me go a a bit further. The MW wage incremental. You do know that.

3. Are you telling me Bobs or any hardware stores cannot increases his prices to match the MW incremental prices?

4. Are you telling me bob or any stores never increase prices before?

5. Are you telling me that bob or any stores only sell one screw, one bulb, one wood?

If Bob or any stores do not practice those kinds or adopt to any kind of changes. Then they do not deserve to exist. Companies or any businesses increase prices just about every year to make up any expenses.

My friend that own PCB assembly productions ( feed thru & surface mount) in Santa Ana, Ca just bought AI ( auto insertion) machine. It’s a machine install components to a circuit board. Cost $280k. How and where do you think he will recover that expenses?

What do you mean you don't trust me? I didn't write the article, it's from Forbes, and by reading your response, I bet you never even clicked on the link yet alone read the article.

A $15.00 minimum wage only does one thing, and that is cause inflation and cost of living increases. It's why in your state, a 200K home is just about ghetto and over here, a 200K home is middle-class or upper middle-class.

With the competition of overseas products, the last thing we need to do is further inflate ourselves out of the world market. It would cause more companies to move overseas because of labor costs. It would also influence more companies to invest in automation.

Any link you or any provided are coming from anti MW. Meaning it’s totally BULLSHIT or fabricated. Repeat BULLSHIT.
I read your link just to entertain you. Did you read them or you just stared at it?

1. Kelley Ulmer owner of almost perfect. Look at the wording. In 2016 ever increasing MW. How many times did MW increase in 2016? Any specifics?
Most likely they got run over by Amazon.

2. Houman Salem..moving his operations from California to Las Vegas because of $15 MW. Another BULLSHIT. The $15 MW will not take effect till 2022.

3. Nat Cutler. Closed his stores in 2015 due to rising MW. Another BULLSHIT. The MW increase has not even started yet. Most likely it’s the rental space.

I don’t want to waste my time with the rest. Try again.


With the competition overseas. How many times did you or your buddies here complained? Americans will do the dirty jobs as long the pay is good. And you are belly aching for $15 MW?
We cannot compete overseas no matter how low you want.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Sorry to hear about Bob.

Home Depot, Costco, Walmart killed lots and lots of small businesses LOOOOOONG before MW increases even in the 80s.
So there’s no way you can blame MW Increases.


That’s the same happening overseas.

Walmart has helped more businesses than it ever hurt. Walmart is what's called an anchor store. Anchor stores draw people to a complex, and other vendors benefit by the amount of people the anchor store is attracting.

Even the contracts for those smaller stores are written around the anchor store. If the anchor store leaves, it allows the other stores to break their leases, because those smaller businesses know they can't be profitable on their own without the anchor.

True but that’s the nature of big business. That has nothing to do with with MW.
The same when I killed my competitors.

Do you realize that you'd have a better shot at pretending to be a business genius on the Internet if your posts weren't borderline illiterate? Seriously, I have a 10-year-old with better English skills.

You know as well as I do every single liberal on USMB is either a business owner, independently wealthy, or comfortably retried. Some claim to work from home.

Me? I'm the only truck driver here!

True. The cognitive dissonance from "I'm a wealthy retired successful business owner who uses grammar a 5th-grader would be embarrassed by" often makes my eyes cross.

I work for a living. I'm okay with that. I have no patience with modern notions that honest work is something to be ashamed of.

Same here. Nothing to be embarrassed about saying you work for a living. But I guess when the left bashes the rich and we call them out for it, they think it looks better if they claim they are the rich themselves.

The internet is so wonderful. I've met rock stars, rocket scientists, astronauts, many, many wealthy liberals. What's not to believe?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Walmart has helped more businesses than it ever hurt. Walmart is what's called an anchor store. Anchor stores draw people to a complex, and other vendors benefit by the amount of people the anchor store is attracting.

Even the contracts for those smaller stores are written around the anchor store. If the anchor store leaves, it allows the other stores to break their leases, because those smaller businesses know they can't be profitable on their own without the anchor.

True but that’s the nature of big business. That has nothing to do with with MW.
The same when I killed my competitors.

Do you realize that you'd have a better shot at pretending to be a business genius on the Internet if your posts weren't borderline illiterate? Seriously, I have a 10-year-old with better English skills.

You know as well as I do every single liberal on USMB is either a business owner, independently wealthy, or comfortably retried. Some claim to work from home.

Me? I'm the only truck driver here!

True. The cognitive dissonance from "I'm a wealthy retired successful business owner who uses grammar a 5th-grader would be embarrassed by" often makes my eyes cross.

I work for a living. I'm okay with that. I have no patience with modern notions that honest work is something to be ashamed of.

Same here. Nothing to be embarrassed about saying you work for a living. But I guess when the left bashes the rich and we call them out for it, they think it looks better if they claim they are the rich themselves.

The internet is so wonderful. I've met rock stars, rocket scientists, astronauts, many, many wealthy liberals. What's not to believe?

do not forget all the conservative millionaires on here, there are more of them than liberal ones.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

True but that’s the nature of big business. That has nothing to do with with MW.
The same when I killed my competitors.

Do you realize that you'd have a better shot at pretending to be a business genius on the Internet if your posts weren't borderline illiterate? Seriously, I have a 10-year-old with better English skills.

You know as well as I do every single liberal on USMB is either a business owner, independently wealthy, or comfortably retried. Some claim to work from home.

Me? I'm the only truck driver here!

True. The cognitive dissonance from "I'm a wealthy retired successful business owner who uses grammar a 5th-grader would be embarrassed by" often makes my eyes cross.

I work for a living. I'm okay with that. I have no patience with modern notions that honest work is something to be ashamed of.

Same here. Nothing to be embarrassed about saying you work for a living. But I guess when the left bashes the rich and we call them out for it, they think it looks better if they claim they are the rich themselves.

The internet is so wonderful. I've met rock stars, rocket scientists, astronauts, many, many wealthy liberals. What's not to believe?

do not forget all the conservative millionaires on here, there are more of them than liberal ones.

Really? I only recall a few.

In any case, at least they are more believable since they are for lower taxes on businesses, against wasteful social programs, against increased minimum wage, and promote personal responsibility.

If you came over my house and I told you I got robbed, but the burglars didn't take enough from me, would you believe my story of getting robbed in the first place?

 

[JustAGuy1]

No, you AREN'T the smartest kid here.
My question is readily understandable considering your opinion of yourself.
Many things are indexed off of the MW, go on enlighten us.

Yes I am. You are just in denial.

Your question covered a wide variety of areas. So you need to be more specific before you waste more of my time.

Run kid, you are embarrassing yourself.

I just noticed you are only 18 yo kid. Did your parents teach you you to behaved this way?

Let me entertain you. If you are impressed just make sure you close your jaw.

Just incase you are not aware. I do get paid for my opinions. Not in this site. It doesn’t pay that much but it’s an honor. Sometimes it cost me more because I have to fly to a city where the study is taking place but it’s an honor....... So if you need a HERO ....... you are looking at it. Okay kid?

Let me give you a couple of examples that you might be aware....
1. Lexus LFA Nurburgring $400,000. I was part of the study before they went or even trying to start a production.
The study took place in New York and several part of US cities and Europe.

I blasted it and I was right 100%. If a Toyota cost that much why not just buy a Ferrari? If it cost that much should be stand alone & different name not Lexus. And stand alone dealership. This is the reason why you don’t see Lexus LFA in the streets.

2. Like this one 3 years ago. A special kind of car dealership. A building structure where you put your coin like a vending machine and car your choice will roll in front of u.
That’s a dumb idea. Why? The cost of the structure is not cheap. They will add that cost to the car prices compared that don’t have. If you want to see different colors you have to roll one at time instead of just walking in the car lots. If you selling different cars you will only see 2 or 3 models compared to just a regular dealership. I don’t expect to see this kind of structures to be nation wide profitable. It’s a thumbs down.


I have several of these studies from 2x to 8x a year of different products, ideas, opinions and opportunities from different categories. Including medical instruments and products. To life insurance to oil tankers insurance when they move in to Persian gulf and when leave to jet fuels etc etc ....... Except sex toys.

So if you need a hero. I’m here.

LOL, let's throw all kinds of shit against the wall and obfuscate. WHAT are the other "taxes" indexed to wages, c'mon you ar a self proclaimed genius (albeit the least intelligent one I've ever seen). I'm a little older than 18 child

If you are looking for a hero. I’m here.

So you are little older than 18? Is that mean 18 and 2 days? Or 18 immature kid?

Still running, look little girl did I bruise your wittle ego? Answer the question, or is it beyond your ability?

 

[JustAGuy1]

You just simply against MW.

I'm against it because it's bad economics.

Well...... so far all I heard is an opinion of bad here and there. I asked a very simple question. MW increase has started about 5 years ago here and there. So I’m asking the same question again.

Name me any enterprise any business categories any McDonald’s that went out business because of MW increase?
Please ANYBODY.

Straw man. When you have to narrow your parameters that specifically - "business category" - in order to try to falsely generate the answer you want to get, it's an indication that your reasoning is shit, and you know it and don't care.

Is your position REALLY that minimum-wage laws can't be considered detrimental unless entire industries shut down? As long as it's just individual businesses across the spectrum, fuck it, everything's great? My family-owned book store went under and we went bankrupt, but Amazon is still selling books, so all is well?

I’ll try to be nice and professional not to lower self to your low life pig style especially your friend Ray likes it.

All I’m asking is very simple. Name me one. If you cannot then get the fuck out.

Your family business close because of amazon. That is not because MW. There are tons of reasons why people likes to buy at Amazon. Not because of MW.

"I'll avoid your point entirely and pretend that it's being 'nice'."

Stuff your nice and try being honest. I already pointed out how your question is a straw man, and a badly-made one at that, so repeating it and demanding that I treat it like a real question isn't going to magically make it real.

"People don't buy from Amazon because of minimum wage, which makes minimum wage a good thing!" Another straw man. Seriously, you've spent way too much time learning to be "nice" in the hope that it would somehow make you not a piece of shit, and not nearly enough time learning how to actually think.

Oh, and FYI, trying to shame people into self-censoring only works on people who actually respect you. Write it down somewhere so you don't forget.

If you talk to me professionally I will talk to you professionally. You started it. Asshole....
If you talk to me like shit because you are piece of shit. I will talk to you what you deserve.

Just because you cannot answer my simple question. Doesn’t mean I’m a straw man. It only means you are not capable of anything.

I never said people buys at Amazon because of MW. People buys at Amazon for several reasons. Myself don’t go to Barnes and nobles or book store anymore. I go to Amazon. You are ignorant.,

Talk about projection, lmao.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Really? I only recall a few.

In any case, at least they are more believable since they are for lower taxes on businesses, against wasteful social programs, against increased minimum wage, and promote personal responsibility.

wow, what a good point. I forgot there are no liberal millionaire or billionaires in the real world. Every single one of them is a Trump loving Repub

 

[ABikerSailor]

Why do most people live paycheck to paycheck in this day and age? Short and simple answer is that people have put themselves in debt with car payments, credit cards and all the other stuff they buy on credit.

When I retired from the Navy, I kept working for a few years, because I felt that I had to. I also had credit cards and some things that I was still paying off. A few years after that, I got everything paid off, cut up and paid off the credit cards and decided to see if I could live on my pension. And, fortunately, I was able to pull it off.

Then, the economy crashed under Jr., and I was wondering if my pension was safe, so I started to see if I could save enough money to constitute 3 months of my retirement. I got it built up, but then car and house problems came along, so I'm halfway below the 3 month cushion I had built, but am in the process of rebuilding it again. Interestingly enough, when I got rid of my credit cards, I seemed to have a lot more money to save.

Get rid of your credit cards and maybe you can build some savings.

 

[JustAGuy1]

Do you realize that you'd have a better shot at pretending to be a business genius on the Internet if your posts weren't borderline illiterate? Seriously, I have a 10-year-old with better English skills.

You know as well as I do every single liberal on USMB is either a business owner, independently wealthy, or comfortably retried. Some claim to work from home.

Me? I'm the only truck driver here!

True. The cognitive dissonance from "I'm a wealthy retired successful business owner who uses grammar a 5th-grader would be embarrassed by" often makes my eyes cross.

I work for a living. I'm okay with that. I have no patience with modern notions that honest work is something to be ashamed of.

Same here. Nothing to be embarrassed about saying you work for a living. But I guess when the left bashes the rich and we call them out for it, they think it looks better if they claim they are the rich themselves.

The internet is so wonderful. I've met rock stars, rocket scientists, astronauts, many, many wealthy liberals. What's not to believe?

That’s the reason I put out a live debate person to person. No fucking bullshit.

I said anybody. Any one of you mother fuckers.
Do you want to take the challenge Ray?
I’m so fucking sick of your ignorance.

I’m fucking piss and so sick all of your ignorance.

How about it Ray?

Are you a FUCKING COWARD or a PUSSY also?

Look at you craving attention and shit.

 

[JustAGuy1]

True. The cognitive dissonance from "I'm a wealthy retired successful business owner who uses grammar a 5th-grader would be embarrassed by" often makes my eyes cross.

I work for a living. I'm okay with that. I have no patience with modern notions that honest work is something to be ashamed of.

Same here. Nothing to be embarrassed about saying you work for a living. But I guess when the left bashes the rich and we call them out for it, they think it looks better if they claim they are the rich themselves.

The internet is so wonderful. I've met rock stars, rocket scientists, astronauts, many, many wealthy liberals. What's not to believe?

That’s the reason I put out a live debate person to person. No fucking bullshit.

I said anybody. Any one of you mother fuckers.
Do you want to take the challenge Ray?
I’m so fucking sick of your ignorance.

I’m fucking piss and so sick all of your ignorance.

How about it Ray?

Are you a FUCKING COWARD or a PUSSY also?

Look at you craving attention and shit.

Kid. Do you mind get the fuck out of my way?

For a self proclaimed genius you sure cry a lot.
You're just mad because I've exposed you as the fraud you are.

 

[JustAGuy1]

That’s the reason I put out a live debate person to person. No fucking bullshit.

I said anybody. Any one of you mother fuckers.
Do you want to take the challenge Ray?
I’m so fucking sick of your ignorance.

I’m fucking piss and so sick all of your ignorance.

How about it Ray?

Are you a FUCKING COWARD or a PUSSY also?

Look at you craving attention and shit.

Kid. Do you mind get the fuck out of my way?

For a self proclaimed genius you sure cry a lot.
You're just mad because I've exposed you as the fraud you are.

What fraud kid?

That’s the reason of live debate. No bullshit.
What part of that don’t you understand? Kid.

Did they asked you to divert my attention to you? That is not going to happen.

If you are not a kid I could have kicked your ass too.

LOL, I'm over 60 twit. You're a twit who NEEDS to believe she/you/he/it are relevant.
You aren't. You can't even answer basic economic questions.

 

[Third Party]

The economy is only doing well if you are in the top 10%. For everybody else, not so much.

It was ALWAYS that way-at least people can find jobs now.

 

[LuckyDuck]

The economy is only doing well if you are in the top 10%. For everybody else, not so much.

because people do not know how to save and we live in an instant gratification society. 75 to 80 percent of the country lives paycheck to paycheck, no matter how the economy is doing.

Exactly! Because the young people today, they need their over-priced flavored coffees, the latest cellphone gadget, larger screen tv's, PlayStation, X-Box, latest in music technology, et cetera, et cetera. Then, they wonder where the money went.

 

[JustAGuy1]

Look at you craving attention and shit.

Kid. Do you mind get the fuck out of my way?

For a self proclaimed genius you sure cry a lot.
You're just mad because I've exposed you as the fraud you are.

What fraud kid?

That’s the reason of live debate. No bullshit.
What part of that don’t you understand? Kid.

Did they asked you to divert my attention to you? That is not going to happen.

If you are not a kid I could have kicked your ass too.

LOL, I'm over 60 twit. You're a twit who NEEDS to believe she/you/he/it are relevant.
You aren't. You can't even answer basic economic questions.

So you are a liar. Why would you lie your age?

(smile) I never lie. I will however beat your ass (rhetorically) every chance I get. You aren't in my league.