If socialism is so bad

[Markle]

How about we match my "ignorance about the US Constitution" with your piss poor reading comprehension. I didn't say eminent domain was unconstitutional. I said if violated property rights, which it does.

As you know, if it is legal and does not violate the constitution it is not a violation of private property rights.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Why is the right so afraid of it ?
Surely its a good thing that we help people when they stumble ?

Uh... have you seen Venezuela?

 

[bripat9643]

That has nothing to do with your definition, dope. No Dem has ever suggested that the govt should own the production of resources.

Why do you ignore your own definition in favor of dopey narratives?

Do I need to transcribe what that idiot said?

Government taking over the oil industry is the very definition of socialism. That's exactly what Venezuela did.

Don't get pissed when I prove you are full of shit.

No one has called for that, liar. Your dopey link isn't clear and certainly isn't representative of Democrats.
Your narrative is retarded given the very definition you posted.

They're certainly calling for the feds to take over the health insurance industry. You'll look pretty silly trying to deny that one.

No one has called for that, liar. There will always be private supplemental plans just as there are now with Medicare. No one has called for the govt to " take over the health insurance industry", dope. You need to think before repeating dopey natratives.

Kamala Haris is calling for it, dumbass. So is AOC, Bernie Sanders and a host of other Dim politicians.

What do you imagine "single payer" means?

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Why is the right so afraid of it ?
Surely its a good thing that we help people when they stumble ?

Why is capitalism so bad to those like you?

Oh, do you want to help people when they stumble by educating them for a job in a new field or more likely just hand them a check while demanding others to pay for it?

Also don't you think that too much government is a bad thing?

Did you know States here in America can tax accordingly to their State population to implement Socialist Programs from Healthcare to Education, so why must it be on the Federal Level?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Why is the right so afraid of it ?
Surely its a good thing that we help people when they stumble ?

Why is capitalism so bad to those like you?

Oh, do you want to help people when they stumble by educating them for a job in a new field or more likely just hand them a check while demanding others to pay for it?

Also don't you think that too much government is a bad thing?

Did you know States here in America can tax accordingly to their State population to implement Socialist Programs from Healthcare to Education, so why must it be on the Federal Level?

Capitalism can live alongside socialism. It does across the world. I own shares in companies so that I can make money and have a better life. It doesnt stop me from understanding that the government is best suited to providing some things.

 

[bripat9643]

They're certainly calling for the feds to take over the health insurance industry. You'll look pretty silly trying to deny that one.

No one has called for that, liar. There will always be private supplemental plans just as there are now with Medicare. No one has called for the govt to " take over the health insurance industry", dope. You need to think before repeating dopey natratives.

Let the equivocation games begin! Like I said, pretty silly.

Equivocation?
You meant explaining why your narrative is dumb as shit. No one has called for the govt to take over any industry, dope.

Wrong again, shit for brains:

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Why is the right so afraid of it ?
Surely its a good thing that we help people when they stumble ?

Why is capitalism so bad to those like you?

Oh, do you want to help people when they stumble by educating them for a job in a new field or more likely just hand them a check while demanding others to pay for it?

Also don't you think that too much government is a bad thing?

Did you know States here in America can tax accordingly to their State population to implement Socialist Programs from Healthcare to Education, so why must it be on the Federal Level?

Capitalism can live alongside socialism. It does across the world. I own shares in companies so that I can make money and have a better life. It doesnt stop me from understanding that the government is best suited to providing some things.

Again, is too much government a bad thing?

Here in the United States a State can implement Social programs, so what is stopping them?

 

[bripat9643]

Why is the right so afraid of it ?
Surely its a good thing that we help people when they stumble ?

Why is capitalism so bad to those like you?

Oh, do you want to help people when they stumble by educating them for a job in a new field or more likely just hand them a check while demanding others to pay for it?

Also don't you think that too much government is a bad thing?

Did you know States here in America can tax accordingly to their State population to implement Socialist Programs from Healthcare to Education, so why must it be on the Federal Level?

Capitalism can live alongside socialism. It does across the world. I own shares in companies so that I can make money and have a better life. It doesnt stop me from understanding that the government is best suited to providing some things.

You mean the other way around. What you call "socialism" can't survive without capitalism. It's a parasite on capitalism.

The government is the absolute worst way to provide anything.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Why is the right so afraid of it ?
Surely its a good thing that we help people when they stumble ?

Why is capitalism so bad to those like you?

Oh, do you want to help people when they stumble by educating them for a job in a new field or more likely just hand them a check while demanding others to pay for it?

Also don't you think that too much government is a bad thing?

Did you know States here in America can tax accordingly to their State population to implement Socialist Programs from Healthcare to Education, so why must it be on the Federal Level?

Capitalism can live alongside socialism. It does across the world. I own shares in companies so that I can make money and have a better life. It doesnt stop me from understanding that the government is best suited to providing some things.

Again, is too much government a bad thing?

Here in the United States a State can implement Social programs, so what is stopping them?

"Too much" sort of implies that it is. the issue is that we probably disagree on what is "too".

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Why is the right so afraid of it ?
Surely its a good thing that we help people when they stumble ?

Why is capitalism so bad to those like you?

Oh, do you want to help people when they stumble by educating them for a job in a new field or more likely just hand them a check while demanding others to pay for it?

Also don't you think that too much government is a bad thing?

Did you know States here in America can tax accordingly to their State population to implement Socialist Programs from Healthcare to Education, so why must it be on the Federal Level?

Capitalism can live alongside socialism. It does across the world. I own shares in companies so that I can make money and have a better life. It doesnt stop me from understanding that the government is best suited to providing some things.

You mean the other way around. What you call "socialism" can't survive without capitalism. It's a parasite on capitalism.

The government is the absolute worst way to provide anything.

And capitalism cant survive without socialism. Whether it be bail outs or corporate welfare.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Why is the right so afraid of it ?
Surely its a good thing that we help people when they stumble ?

Why is capitalism so bad to those like you?

Oh, do you want to help people when they stumble by educating them for a job in a new field or more likely just hand them a check while demanding others to pay for it?

Also don't you think that too much government is a bad thing?

Did you know States here in America can tax accordingly to their State population to implement Socialist Programs from Healthcare to Education, so why must it be on the Federal Level?

Capitalism can live alongside socialism. It does across the world. I own shares in companies so that I can make money and have a better life. It doesnt stop me from understanding that the government is best suited to providing some things.

Again, is too much government a bad thing?

Here in the United States a State can implement Social programs, so what is stopping them?

"Too much" sort of implies that it is. the issue is that we probably disagree on what is "too".

Again, here in the United States of America a state can pass laws to implement Social programs from Education to Healthcare, so there is no need to Federalize it unless the State want other States to fund it program.

 

[georgephillip]

Why is the right so afraid of it ?
Surely its a good thing that we help people when they stumble ?

Perhaps condemning socialism explains MAGA?

"Trump Wants You to Be Afraid of Socialism..."

Trump Wants You to Be Afraid of Socialism

"President Donald Trump and the Republican Party are reviving the Red Scare as a central tactic of his 2020 campaign to retain the White House.

"In Trump’s view, a socialist system is synonymous with poverty and despair, government coercion, domination and control. It is antithetical to liberty and independence.

"This approach might seem curious, given that interest in socialist ideas is at an-all time high in the United States, as ordinary people react to an out-of-control capitalist system designed to enrich the rich.

"Trump and his party are betting that good, old-fashioned American individualism will overcome any desire for greater collectivism and more government-funded social programs."

Trump and his party are also betting their supporters won't look too closely at the gold-plated, "self-made" con man who was a millionaire by age eight.

 

[dblack]

Why is the right so afraid of it ?
Surely its a good thing that we help people when they stumble ?

Perhaps condemning socialism explains MAGA?

"Trump Wants You to Be Afraid of Socialism..."

I don't give a shit what Trump wants.

 

[bripat9643]

Why is the right so afraid of it ?
Surely its a good thing that we help people when they stumble ?

Why is capitalism so bad to those like you?

Oh, do you want to help people when they stumble by educating them for a job in a new field or more likely just hand them a check while demanding others to pay for it?

Also don't you think that too much government is a bad thing?

Did you know States here in America can tax accordingly to their State population to implement Socialist Programs from Healthcare to Education, so why must it be on the Federal Level?

Capitalism can live alongside socialism. It does across the world. I own shares in companies so that I can make money and have a better life. It doesnt stop me from understanding that the government is best suited to providing some things.

You mean the other way around. What you call "socialism" can't survive without capitalism. It's a parasite on capitalism.

The government is the absolute worst way to provide anything.

And capitalism cant survive without socialism. Whether it be bail outs or corporate welfare.

Total fucking bullshit. Capitalism survived for 150 years without socialism. Capitalism requires bailouts not corporate welfare. Those are schemes dreamed up by politicians. They are cons.

 

[buckeye45_73]

Why is the right so afraid of it ?
Surely its a good thing that we help people when they stumble ?

What kind of retarded question is this?

If lynching blacks is so bad why are lefties afraid of it ?
I love lefty logic and stupid questions

 

[georgephillip]

Why is the right so afraid of it ?
Surely its a good thing that we help people when they stumble ?

Perhaps condemning socialism explains MAGA?

"Trump Wants You to Be Afraid of Socialism..."

I don't give a shit what Trump wants.

I don't give a shit what Trump wants.

Me too, Comrade.
Those lightweight capitalists are afraid of their own shadow.
AUGUST 13, 2018
Chasing Shadows: Socialism Won’t Go Away Because It is Capitalism’s Antithesis

 

[Dragonlady]

Why is the right so afraid of it ?
Surely its a good thing that we help people when they stumble ?

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socialism
noun
so·cial·ism | \ ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm \
Definition of socialism


1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods


Definition of SOCIALISM

Your definition of socialism is wrong:

"a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole"

Socialist democracies have both private and public ownership of property. But regulation of the both the private and public sector is necessary for the health, safety, and security of the people. Under this definition, the USA has been a socialist state since its founding, since the Founding Fathers believed in a nation which the government provided publically owned and run schools, libraries, a Post Office, and other things necessary for the common good, and for the country to prosper.

Government regulation is not a BAD thing. It keeps your air and water clean and safe. Without the EPA, you'd be living in China. But you're a long, long way from having the kind of country you could have and should have, because successive conservative administrations have valued profits above the American people.

Conservatives are always talking about the things that Americans "can't afford". You can't afford universal health care. But you can afford 18 years of continuous warfare on foreign soils, costing trillions of dollars and netting exactly what for the people of your nation?

You're building a fucking Space Force, but you can't afford text books, and computers in every classroom in America. Education is the ONLY way for those born into the poorest households in America to have a realistic chance of becoming productive taxpayers, and yet these children have the fewest dollars expended on their education, as is humanly possible. They will remain part of the growing underclass of workers the US counts on for cheap goods, and then decries because they're taking government handouts.

You can't afford to regulate your corporations to keep the air and water clean for your citizens, but you can afford billions for government shutdowns when politicians don't get their way.

The US government has lots and lots of money for wars, walls, space forces, and tax breaks for millionaire, but none for the "general welfare" of the people who pay those taxes, since corporations and billionaires are paying less and less and taking more and more.

 

[dblack]

Why is the right so afraid of it ?
Surely its a good thing that we help people when they stumble ?

Perhaps condemning socialism explains MAGA?

"Trump Wants You to Be Afraid of Socialism..."

I don't give a shit what Trump wants.

I don't give a shit what Trump wants.

Me too, Comrade.

Comrade??

 

[georgephillip]

Why is the right so afraid of it ?
Surely its a good thing that we help people when they stumble ?

Perhaps condemning socialism explains MAGA?

"Trump Wants You to Be Afraid of Socialism..."

I don't give a shit what Trump wants.

I don't give a shit what Trump wants.

Me too, Comrade.

Comrade??

Comrade??

 

[dblack]

Why is the right so afraid of it ?
Surely its a good thing that we help people when they stumble ?

???

socialism
noun
so·cial·ism | \ ˈsō-shə-ˌli-zəm \
Definition of socialism


1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods


Definition of SOCIALISM

Your definition of socialism is wrong:

"a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole"

It's not wrong. It's the commonly accepted definition.

If the ideology or government you support doesn't fit the commonly accepted definition, why are you trying to co-opt the word? Why not come up with a different word to avoid confusion?