If Obamacare can be legislated because "it works" -- What about Christianity? And Spiritual Healing?

emilynghiem

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Employers shrug off Obamacare robbing Republicans of a campaign issue - Yahoo Finance

1. As I read articles like this
where Obamacare is declared "not an issue because it works"

If that's all it takes to justify federal mandates restricting liberty and imposing national policy on health care,
"because it works":

Well, if Christianity works to reduce costs of addiction, relationship abuse, crime, mental and criminal sickness

Can THAT be legislated nationally also? Can Spiritual Healing be funded because it is found "to work?"
That the practice of Christianity has been shown to aid in recovery, and break the cycle of incarceration,
addiction and abuse.

People may complain, and say Christianity should be a free choice, and not mandated.

But "what if it works" What if it can be proven to heal cancer, schizophrenia, and other conditions
that medicine alone cannot cure. If Spiritual Healing works better than insurance,
and insurance can be mandated, why not?

2. Texas House panel approves full legalization of marijuana - Houston Chronicle

As for Republicans in Texas pushing to legalize Marijuana, where will this lead?

If the public is required to pay for everyone's health care, and marijuana is legalized,
are opponents to both legalization and federal ACA mandates required to pay for the health problems caused by the legalized use of marijuana?

Could requirements be pushed making it illegal to sell marijuana (also alcohol and tobacco) to addicts,
and require all users to go through health screening, diagnosis and treatment.
Why not? If "spiritual healing" works - to diagnose, treat and cure addictions and abuse,
Why not mandate and nationalize it as part of health care?

"If it works" -- if that's all the justification needed to implement a policy through federal govt,
and justify requiring everyone to pay into it, regardless of personal choice or beliefs.

3. Seriously, perhaps the argument that might help to push for VOLUNTARY participation, funding, and mandates is pointing out that ACA places restrictions on religious memberships that "have to be in existence by 1999" in order to qualify for exemptions. That is like a federal regulated monopoly -- purposely putting unequal conditions on other health programs that federal programs don't have to follow in order to handicap any competition and prevent the development of alternatives.

It can be argued that ALL choices and programs that can serve collective health care should be treated equally.

If restrictions are put on some, they should be applied to all.

Right now, Republicans and conservatives are pushing a bill that would require Congressional offices to be under the same mandates, instead of declaring their offices to be exempted as "less than 50 employees".

The idea is by pushing all govt officials to be under the same regulations they passed,
this would cause it to collapse. But instead, by "political conflict of interest" the very people benefiting from the exemptions will oppose this move so they can keep their exemptions.

It may not be a directly financial conflict of interest, but it is at least a political conflict of interest
because of the benefits gained by keeping the interpretation justifying their exemptions.

The fairest way would be to make all options voluntary to fund and participate in,
and/or require members of the various parties to follow the mandates agreed up by their parties.
 
No government can enact a faith. They can mandate it or regulate it but to enact it is personal. May not be the reply you were looking for but it is how I feel.
 
Well, if Christianity works to reduce costs of addiction, relationship abuse, crime, mental and criminal sickness
I think that has been shown to be not the case. The US is often claimed to be a Christian nation under god and has a very high rate of belief, yet its performance in regard to those points is no better if not worse than much more secular nations. After all, it has both the highest number of prisoners as well as the highest rate of imprisonment to take just one category.
 
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From the linked article:

'Most of the Republican presidential candidates (both declared and presumed to be running) have voiced strong opposition to the ACA and promised to make it a top campaign issue. Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush calls it a “monstrosity” and says the government shouldreplace it with stripped-down coverage that’s more “consumer-directed.” Sen. Marco Rubio wants to repeal Obamacare, even though it covers 1.6 million people in his home state of Florida. Ben Carson, a retired neurosurgeon, got his start as a Tea Party favorite by ranting against Obamacare and claiming that it’s “the worst thing that has happened in this country since slavery.”

“Socalized medicine” hasn’t materialized.

Obamacare hasn’t killed jobs.

The law has helped the uninsured.

There aren’t that many people negatively affected by the law
.'

Consequently republican opposition to the ACA is predicated on ignorance and lies.
 
Well, if Christianity works to reduce costs of addiction, relationship abuse, crime, mental and criminal sickness

Well it cannot be shown to do so. Nice try :rolleyes:

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Well it cannot be shown to do so.
I like that you included the very Christian Latin America in your selective interpretation of addiction, relationship abuse, crime, mental and criminal sickness while ignoring the 'Christian' US' prison population.

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Well it cannot be shown to do so.
I like that you included the very Christian Latin America in your selective interpretation of addiction, relationship abuse, crime, mental and criminal sickness while ignoring the 'Christian' US' prison population.

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There is less crime and a smaller prison population in secular countries like China, Sweden and Norway. So, yeah, no correlation between Christianity and low crime rate. Well... at least not a positive correlation.
 
Religions and spiritual healing are not real.

Health care is.

Not to say that, for some, prayer and the belief in non-medical are not helpful and even somewhat effective but they're still based on imaginary, non-existent creatures.

Besides, what would you do about that pesky First Amendment?
 

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