If Obama Is The Powerful Leader On Earth,Can He Lower Gas & Food Prices?Or Just Hide?

[EdSchultzIsFat]

I wonder how many millions of American Lives have been on hold since Ubama took office? Mine Has!!!!

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Obama is now considered a god by the Righties?

That's pretty fuckin weird.

Nah, we recognize him for the simp he is. It's the Left that has deified what is otherwise a rather un-extraordinary guy.

 

[JohnnyApplesack]

I just can't imagine what food costs will be in "Deep Blue Liberal States" later this year. Will New York and Cally blame George Bush when their grocery bills go up 40% this summer?

California is feeding your stupid ass right now.

Good gawd youse hillbillies are ig'nint.

 

[JohnnyApplesack]

Obama is now considered a god by the Righties?

That's pretty fuckin weird.

Nah, we recognize him for the simp he is. It's the Left that has deified what is otherwise a rather un-extraordinary guy.

That right, Saggy?

BTW, which one of your right wing heroes has a chance of dethroning your emperor/god next year?

 

[EdSchultzIsFat]

I just can't imagine what food costs will be in "Deep Blue Liberal States" later this year. Will New York and Cally blame George Bush when their grocery bills go up 40% this summer?

California is feeding your stupid ass right now.

Good gawd youse hillbillies are ig'nint.

NO! I feed myself, and we can grow our own fruits and veggies here. Especially Tomatoes! just can't believe that sometimes Tomatoes reach $3.00 a pound!

 

[Londoner]

ENERGY
We have rising gas prices because Reagan convinced us to ignore Carter's warnings in the 70s. Carter begged us to move to a less petrol-intensive system, but Reagan said the middle east was fine and oil would last forever. [FYI: Carter's plan only called for reducing petroleum use by 20% over 30 years. This was to be achieved by conservation, the expansion of light rail, CAFE standards/smaller vehicles, sensible energy efficient construction, etc. He proposed we do this over the long haul so it didn't cause an economic disruption. Had we listened to him, we would be able to escape much of the pain that lies ahead]. Reagan was funded by big oil. He famously buried the Pentagon cost of stabilizing the middle east off budget, lest the market be given the signal to move away from petroleum. Everything was done to tie us to high oil consumption, including crushing the first electric car movement. Again (listen carefully): Conservation and energy competition was methodically crushed by Washington, which was captured by special interests. We are now lying in that bed. We swallowed poison in 1980.

FOOD
Food costs are going up party because of rising energy costs, but also because of extreme weather patterns. This is another problem the right actively suppressed in the name of short term profit. Welcome to it!

HEALTH CARE
France and Germany insure their entire population for half the cost that it takes America to cover 80%. Because their governments provide insurance (or help with it), they have much lower administrative costs, that is, they don't have parasites sitting between doctor and patient, and they don't have parasites who lobby Washington to crush drug competition (which is why Americans pays twice as much for drugs as any other advanced industrial western nation). Most of all, they don't have parasites who pump money into Talk Radio and TV for the purpose of convincing Americans that anything done to curb the corrupt influence of special interests is socialism.

In 1980 America handed its vital organs to special interests who crushed competition and created systems which merely enrich a minority of share holders and politicians at the public's expense.

The game is over. They've captured the country. They own both parties.

We swallowed poison in 1980.

(Let's not even talk about Reagan's virtual destruction of the Sherman Act, which lead to too-big-to-fail monsters in Finance. People don't understand how the era of merger-mania lead to behemoths like AIG. They don't even know how many generations of taxpayers AIG crippled. Why? Because Movement Conservatism has captured the media . . . and they hide the corpse by talking about Muslims, Mexican, Gays, and Socialists. This is what special interests do. They buy the political and media organs of the state. There is a reason why Hannity never talks about Enron, AIG, or Goldman. There is a reason why Hannity never discusses who put the Shaw or Hussein in power. There is a reason why Hannity never discusses the Project For a New American Century. Because he represents the interests which have captured and destroyed the country)

(the poison America swallowed in 1980 is finally taking effect. Our health, energy, and financial systems were destroyed in order to enrich the few. Conservatives were seduced by a strategically executed culture war to vote against their economic interests. the rest you may ignore.)

 

[EdSchultzIsFat]

and why does Obama want non-smokers/healthy Americans to pay for the health-bills of those who smoke a pack-a-day and/or eat fast-food 7 times a week and have never been to a gym?

 

[JohnnyApplesack]

I just can't imagine what food costs will be in "Deep Blue Liberal States" later this year. Will New York and Cally blame George Bush when their grocery bills go up 40% this summer?

California is feeding your stupid ass right now.

Good gawd youse hillbillies are ig'nint.

NO! I feed myself, and we can grow our own fruits and veggies here. Especially Tomatoes! just can't believe that sometimes Tomatoes reach $3.00 a pound!

Without CA agriculture you'd weigh 100 lbs instead of 450.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Lovin' that CHANGE.....?

 

[The T]

Lovin' that CHANGE.....?

 

[Londoner]

and why does Obama want non-smokers/healthy Americans to pay for the health-bills of those who smoke a pack-a-day and/or eat fast-food 7 times a week and have never been to a gym?

We pay a much higher rate for them when they go to the emergency room. If these people were brought into the system and exposed to regular preventive care, their current cost to whole would go down. Lastly, we don't want consumers to be continually strapped or bankrupted by health costs. The economy depends on solvent consumers, otherwise you get spiraling, exponential job loss. America is the only advanced industrial nation which bankrupts consumers in order to enrich the few.

Think of the American worker/consumer like a bridge or a road. When that bridge collapses, commerce suffers. When consumers and workers collapse, the economy suffers. We didn't start thinking of fellow Americans as lazy welfare queens until Reagan, who was funded by corporations to reduce the tax burden that comes with maintaining a healthy, productive middle class. Ironically, Reagan's family was saved by said tax burden, specifically the government benefits it provided to average Americans. Was FDR's investment in Reagan worth it? Would America have been better off is he called Reagan's family a bunch of welfare queens?

The more people who have affordable health care, the more productive citizens you wind-up with -- the more competition for each job. This is what we want. We don't want productive humans leveled by a corrupt system which only enriches the few.

 

[Mr. H.]

ENERGY
We have rising gas prices because Reagan convinced us to ignore Carter's warnings in the 70s. Carter begged us to move to a less petrol-intensive system, but Reagan said the middle east was fine and oil would last forever. [FYI: Carter's plan only called for reducing petroleum use by 20% over 30 years. This was to be achieved by conservation, the expansion of light rail, CAFE standards/smaller vehicles, sensible energy efficient construction, etc. He proposed we do this over the long haul so it didn't cause an economic disruption. Had we listened to him, we would be able to escape much of the pain that lies ahead]. Reagan was funded by big oil. He famously buried the Pentagon cost of stabilizing the middle east off budget, lest the market be given the signal to move away from petroleum. Everything was done to tie us to high oil consumption, including crushing the first electric car movement. Again (listen carefully): Conservation and energy competition was methodically crushed by Washington, which was captured by special interests. We are now lying in that bed. We swallowed poison in 1980.

So, IF we currently functioned in a "less petrol-intensive system" how in the name of all that is sane would that result in lower gasoline prices?

Let's assume, as a result of Carter's begging, we currently used 20% or even 50% less petroleum in the U.S. today. Please explain how that would have affected the world's crude oil markets in such a fashion as to lower gasoline prices in the U.S.

What Carter did was initiate the path we have taken towards oil dependence in this nation. He instituted the so-called "Windfall Profits Tax" which syphoned billions from a successful, job creating, revenue producing industry - driving companies out of business and putting tens of thousands out of work.

The guy was a whack job through and through.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

and why does Obama want non-smokers/healthy Americans to pay for the health-bills of those who smoke a pack-a-day and/or eat fast-food 7 times a week and have never been to a gym?

We pay a much higher rate for them when they go to the emergency room. If these people were brought into the system and exposed to regular preventive care, their current cost to whole would go down. Lastly, we don't want consumers to be continually strapped or bankrupted by health costs. The economy depends on solvent consumers, otherwise you get spiraling, exponential job loss. America is the only advanced industrial nation which bankrupts consumers in order to enrich the few.

Think of the American worker/consumer like a bridge or a road. When that bridge collapses, commerce suffers. When consumers and workers collapse, the economy suffers. We didn't start thinking of fellow Americans as lazy welfare queens until Reagan, who was funded by corporations to reduce the tax burden that comes with maintaining a healthy, productive middle class. Ironically, Reagan's family was saved by said tax burden, specifically the government benefits it provided to average Americans. Was FDR's investment in Reagan worth it? Would America have been better off is he called Reagan's family a bunch of welfare queens?

The more people who have affordable health care, the more productive citizens you wind-up with -- the more competition for each job. This is what we want. We don't want productive humans leveled by a corrupt system which only enriches the few.

Good fucking grief..... now I've heard it all.

 

[Jroc]

I just can't imagine what food costs will be in "Deep Blue Liberal States" later this year. Will New York and Cally blame George Bush when their grocery bills go up 40% this summer?

California is feeding your stupid ass right now.

Good gawd youse hillbillies are ig'nint.

Whos the "stupid ass"?

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[The T]

I just can't imagine what food costs will be in "Deep Blue Liberal States" later this year. Will New York and Cally blame George Bush when their grocery bills go up 40% this summer?

California is feeding your stupid ass right now.

Good gawd youse hillbillies are ig'nint.

Whos the "stupid ass"?

This idiot thinks Kaleefornya is the corn/Wheat belt.

 

[Flopper]

High food prices always bring on lower food prices. You can bet that wheat farmers the world over are planting every acre and they will be rewarded with lower prices. It always works that way.

 

[Jroc]

shown at his Willmar, Minn., farm - raises corn and soybeans on 550 acres in some of the nation’s best corn-growing country. He sells his corn to an ethanol plant he invested in.


Federal ethanol-fuel policies forced consumers to pay an extra 0.5 percent to 0.8 percent in increased food prices in 2008, and the government itself could end up paying nearly $1 billion more this year for food stamps because of ethanol use, according to a new government report.

The report by the Congressional Budget Office helps answer questions raised by Congress last year as food prices shot up, and some lawmakers questioned the effects of government policies, such as the ethanol mandate.

“Producing ethanol for use in motor fuels increases the demand for corn, which ultimately raises the prices that consumers pay for a wide variety of foods at the grocery store, ranging from corn-syrup sweeteners found in soft drinks to meat, dairy and poultry products,” the CBO said.

Also, government-sponsored subsidies and mandates for ethanol to be mixed with gasoline are supposed to help foster U.S. energy independence and to cut down on greenhouse-gas emissions, but only have reduced greenhouse-gas emissions by less than one-third of 1 percent.

The federal government has mandated that a certain amount of renewable fuels be used to replace motor-vehicle fuel, and ethanol from corn is a chief candidate for the U.S. market.

But overall, food prices rose about 5 percent from April 2007 to April 2008, the period CBO evaluated, and increased ethanol use “accounted for about 10 percent to 15 percent” of that.

Ethanol policies fuel food-price rise - Washington Times

 

[Jroc]

Fuel Vs. Food: Ethanol Helps Boost Meat Prices


The U.S. corn crop is enormous. But about a third of it doesn't go to cereal or cows — instead, it helps run your car. To boost our use of renewable fuels, the federal government subsidizes corn-based ethanol.

This has the meat and dairy industries up in arms over the high cost of their main feed. The rise of ethanol has pitted livestock producers against the oil industry.

In part 2 of our ethanol series, Harvest Public Media's Kathleen Masterson reports on what supporting ethanol means for the food we eat.

Food Costs In The Kitchen

In the big kitchen at the Green Hills Retirement Community in Ames, Iowa, workers scurry about. Chef Chris Stelzer directs platters into the dining hall and expertly flips pancakes while a huge, noisy vent wicks up warm, bacon-scented air.

Stelzer likes to cook the seniors things that remind them of home — meat and potatoes, angus beef, pork loin. It's with these foods that he's seen the most drastic rise in prices.

"The prices of beef and pork have definitely gone up the last few months," Stelzer says. "Tenderloin's gone up about two dollars in the past month or two — a pound — and pork's gone up about a dollar or so."

Fuel Vs. Food: Ethanol Helps Boost Meat Prices : NPR

 

[Mr. H.]

Big Ag. Let's tax their windfall profits. Let's take away their ability to depreciate equipment and write off input costs. They pay no sales tax on purchases. Why not?

 

[NYcarbineer]

I'm so happy to see the OP has become the new No. 1 Face of Conservatism on USMB.