If I were a Democrat, I would think Gingrich used dog whistle language

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    If I were a Democrat I would probably be one of those who thought Gingrich was racist or was at least using dog whistle language to try to excite some sort of visceral racial/"other" feeling in the Republican base.

    Since I'm a Republican, I don't have as much of an urge to analyze him. I'd prefer not to have to think of him at all. I just don't care about Gingrich so long as he is not my party's candidate for president.

    For a few days there after his South Carolina win, it looked like I was going to have to pay attention to Gingrich again. Enough attention to make a list of pros and cons about him to compare seriously to a list of pros and cons about Obama staying in office.

    If Gingrich pulls out a Florida win, then I'll be back to having to think about that list.


    In the end, Newt will probably win out on that list but (a) I don't think he can win the general election and (b) I can't defend his choice of language. His language is a huge turn off for me, easily as much of a turn off as Obama's divisive and condescending language is.

    Obama's bitter clinger comment, taken in context, is no worse than the way Newt talks.
     
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    Since the Democrats aren't going to vote for ANYONE the GOP puts up, I'm not sure why you'd be concerned about how they preceive things.

    I do love this liberal media term "Dog Whistle Language", that using a term like "Food Stamp President" is a racial signal. It isn't.

    It's a valid criticism that under Obama's watch, we have more people on food stamps than ever.

    Of course, the problem is, it was people like Romney that helped put them there. By getting rid of the good paying union jobs and replacing them with McJobs, you've made more people dependent on Food Stamps.

    Here's the ugly truth. 40% of households on foodstamps have at least one person who has a job. 70% of food stamp recipiants are white.

    It isn't just the lack of jobs that's the problem (Mr. Obama) but it's the quality of the jobs that are out there (Mr. Romney.)
     
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    You don't know why I would listen to other people and try to understand what they were concerned about?


    Well, silly me, I do listen. And I notice that some of what they think coincides with my own impression of Gingrich. So I comment that we have this in common.
     
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    I only concern myself with what people are concerned with if I expect to win them over or get something from them.

    This whole notion of giving Democrats veto power over our nominee is silly. It was silly when we did it with McCain, it's sillier now.
     
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    Wow. That sounds really jerky.




    I am making an observation about how hateful Gingrich sounds. I make this observation independent of what anyone in any party thinks about him. It just so happens to be similar to what some Democrats think and so I observe that too.

    This has nothing to do with "giving Democrats power over my nominee". Newt comes across as a hater. This thread is a comment on how Democrats characterize the hate. They phrase it a little different from how I would. But I understand why they characterize it as they do.
     
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    The only reason you hate Gingrich right now is because he's giving your Weird Mormon Robot a bloody nose.

    Just like the only reason you cared about Todd Willingham (baby murderer executed in Texas) was because Rick Perry was a threat to Romney.

    In short, you are inventing excuses not to like him, which you have every right to do.

    But realisitically, I don't go through life worrying about how other people feel if their feelings aren't important to anything I'm trying to accomplish. Sorry, I'm just not. The Democrats are going to be against ANYONE the GOP puts up. Buying into their lame arguments that "Food Stamps" is code language on race is just silly.
     
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    I have disliked Gingrich since the 1990's and I have been against the death penalty for some time now because of what I perceive as flaws in how it is dealt out. I only learned about Todd Willingham because Rick Perry was running for president but I would have been alarmed by the case before that if I had heard about it. I would prefer not to think about Gingrich at all because of how much I dislike him, but his presence in this race is forcing me to think about him.

    The reason you are accusing me of inventing reasons not to like Gingrich is because (a) you don't believe what I have said over and over or (b) you need to do so because you need to find some reason to discount my support for Romney.

    Since I think you actually do believe my statements about myself most of the time, I'll go with (b).
     
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    "Since I'm a Republican, I don't have as much of an urge to analyze him. I'd prefer not to have to think of him at all. I just don't care about Gingrich so long as he is not my party's candidate for president."

    Since you're a Pub dupe, there's lots of things you don't want to think about about or analyze. Great job, 'Melie!
     
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    Personally--I don't think there's anything WRONG with encouraging People who cannot speak English to learn it--especially if they're residing in this country.

    It only benefits THEM--and that is exactly what Newt Gingrich stated in the video. BTW--he never mentioned SPANISH--he was talking about all language differences.


    Romney just twisted it around for those less inclined to actually watch the video--or are watching Romney's edit--cut and paste version.

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    :lol:

    Since I'm a Republican I don't have as much of an incentive to diss Gingrich as a Democrat would. I don't have the urge to make a list of Republicans I dislike. I'm happy to have them fade into history, if they'll just have the decency to do that.

    On the other hand, consider the example you've just shown us of partisan-motivated dissing. You diss conservatives such as myself even when we're in agreement with liberals.

    :lol:
     

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