If God Is...?

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    If God is, doesn't it make sense that She's WAY bigger than all of the Ancient Stories put together, let alone any one of them? :dunno:

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    Is your preferred Ancient Story really the LAST word on God? Really?
     
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    My preferred 'story' concerning religion is actually an account of a real person from Alexandria in the 5th century. Hypatia, a woman, has often been credited with being the first mathmatician who hypothesised and sought to prove that the earth is a sphere, as opposed to being flat. But her teaching and theories offended the rising dominance of Christainity under Constantine. She was murdered and her school was trashed after refusing to capitulate to the bishop of Alexandria's will. These were the events that precipitated the burning of the Library of Alexandria, the single largest source of knowledge in the known world at the time.
     
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    Religion is a business model.
     
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    But faith is not... go figure.
     
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    Faith is something than can be and is manipulated. I prefer reason.
     
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    My faith believes that God has yet to reveal many things about Himself and the universe. So no it's not the last word on God. Really, it's only the first.
     
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    I guess what gets to me is the notion that God and science can't coexist. Between the naivety of the Fundamentalists that refuse scientific evidence to the folks that can reason the complexities of the Universe, but still think it's all a random coincidence.

    One side as bad as the other.
     
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    No. There is no proof of any god. Seeing is believing.
     
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    Gotta agree with LoneLaugher on this one. I definitely prefer reason to faith.

    I have faith in some things, but all of my faith is reached via observation and calculation. For instance, without knowing what she's thinking, if a girl reacts in a certain way to my advances, I have faith that I can scoop her out of the club. If I give a crackhead a ride to his dealer's house and I stop and get out at a 7-11 without taking the loose change out of my ashtray, I have faith that I'm probably coming up short on loose change. I honestly don't think I'm capable of having 100 percent blind faith in anything, though it's certainly something I tried to reach for a number of years.

    Ultimately, though, this issue is one on which I see eye to eye with Ayn Rand: if you take what -anyone- else says as gospel, you're willfully forfeiting your position as the final arbiter of your own reality. Anyone who removes their own conscience from that final arbiter position doesn't deserve the sentience they were lucky/blessed enough to be born with.
     
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    If god is....


    Now that is the real question.

    all the other questions about god are irrelevant till that one is answered.
     
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