Government has the power to levy taxes, but...

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    Government has the power to levy taxes, but does it have the power to force private citizens to collect them?

    Are those who collect the taxes compensated for their tax collection efforts?
    Doesn’t forcing them to collect taxes create a condition of involuntary servitude?
    If so, how does this not violate their rights?
     
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    The 13th amendment argument against it is interesting. but my guess is the necessary and proper clause would give them authority.
     
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    -The 13th amendment, if it applies, modifies and limits the elastic clause
    -It is not necessary for the government to force people to collect the taxes it levies
    -As it places people in a condition of involuntary servitude, it is not proper for the government to force private citizens to collect the taxes it levies.
     
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    That's a big "IF".

    The Courts tend to give government plenty of leeway in determining what is necessary.

    I dont disagree. I tend to think that if people saw how much the government was taking from their taxes each week, there would be a rebellion.
     
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    The 13th amendment does not apply to the draft.
    However, the collection of taxes is not the draft.
     
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    People who are drafted get paid for their service.

    I don't get paid for having to collect state and federal taxes from my employees and customers.
     
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    Sounds like like you need to sue the government for violating your rights under the 13th amedment.
     
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    The Supreme Court has consistently upheld the government's right to collect a tax.
     
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    The government -isn't- collecting the taxes -- the business owner collects the revenue, and then sends it to the government.
    He does so under threat of legal consequence, should he fail to comply, which falls under the legal defintion of involuntary servitude.
     

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