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[IM2]

Agreed.

This still does not mean, her, and her relatives have not benefited from privilege.

You would be making assumptions.

I doubt Angela Davis benefitted from privilege. And if she did, it would be her responsibilty to fight for those who don't.Whites such as yourself don't seem to understand the concept of privilege in regard to race. Davis was born in 1944. But here, this is what you dishonestly don't post because some racist on twitterx wants to discredit blacks and deny Americas history of racism by whites.

Angela Davis was born on January 26, 1944, in Birmingham, Alabama. She was christened at her father's Episcopal church. Her family lived in the "Dynamite Hill" neighborhood, which was marked in the 1950s by the bombings of houses in an attempt to intimidate and drive out middle-class black people who had moved there.

Angela Davis - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Where is the privilege?

Davis attended Carrie A. Tuggle School, a segregated black elementary school, and later, Parker Annex, a middle-school branch of Parker High School in Birmingham.

By her junior year of high school, Davis had been accepted by an American Friends Service Committee (Quaker) program that placed black students from the South in integrated schools in the North. She chose Elisabeth Irwin High School in Greenwich Village.
Where is the privilege?

Davis was awarded a scholarship to Brandeis University in Waltham, Massachusetts, where she was one of three black students in her class.
During her second year at Brandeis, Davis decided to major in French and continued her study of philosopher and writer Jean-Paul Sartre. She was accepted by the Hamilton College Junior Year in France Program. Classes were initially at Biarritz and later at the Sorbonne. In Paris, she and other students lived with a French family. She was in Biarritz when she learned of the 1963 Birmingham church bombing, committed by members of the Ku Klux Klan, in which four black girls were killed; she had been personally acquainted with the victims.

Angela Davis - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Where is the privilege?

In short, was you posted was disingenuous and you guys need to stop doing this and face the truth of this nations history.

 

[IM2]

Is someone feeling the pinch of Bidenomics now? Sorry, we had your reparations but President Joe blew it all on the war in Ukraine.

Imagine that: The same white Democrats who took away what your ancestors had, and now taking away what you have through high inflation and wars.

Go figure.

BS. You really need to stop this dishonest mess. You're talking to us as if we don't know. But the problem is that blacks were Republicans for 100 years after slavery and all we got was Jim Crow. And don't blame the democrats as if they were doing all of the racism because republicans were right there with them. Today, the republican party may as well call itself what it really is:

The American White Nationalist Party.

 

[IM2]

Christopher Rufo is a race hustler and his tweet about Davis is quite dishonest.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Why would I do that? They don't listen to me.

Okay?!?

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

I doubt Angela Davis benefitted from privilege. And if she did, it would be her responsibilty to fight for those who don't.Whites such as yourself don't seem to understand the concept of privilege in regard to race. Davis was born in 1944. But here, this is what you dishonestly don't post because some racist on twitterx wants to discredit blacks and deny Americas history of racism by whites.

Angela Davis was born on January 26, 1944, in Birmingham, Alabama. She was christened at her father's Episcopal church. Her family lived in the "Dynamite Hill" neighborhood, which was marked in the 1950s by the bombings of houses in an attempt to intimidate and drive out middle-class black people who had moved there.

Angela Davis - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Where is the privilege?

Davis attended Carrie A. Tuggle School, a segregated black elementary school, and later, Parker Annex, a middle-school branch of Parker High School in Birmingham.

By her junior year of high school, Davis had been accepted by an American Friends Service Committee (Quaker) program that placed black students from the South in integrated schools in the North. She chose Elisabeth Irwin High School in Greenwich Village.
Where is the privilege?

Davis was awarded a scholarship to Brandeis University in Waltham, Massachusetts, where she was one of three black students in her class.
During her second year at Brandeis, Davis decided to major in French and continued her study of philosopher and writer Jean-Paul Sartre. She was accepted by the Hamilton College Junior Year in France Program. Classes were initially at Biarritz and later at the Sorbonne. In Paris, she and other students lived with a French family. She was in Biarritz when she learned of the 1963 Birmingham church bombing, committed by members of the Ku Klux Klan, in which four black girls were killed; she had been personally acquainted with the victims.

Angela Davis - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Where is the privilege?

In short, was you posted was disingenuous and you guys need to stop doing this and face the truth of this nations history.

So Ms. Davis lived the first 20 years of her life encompassing all of her childhood during Jim Crow.

 

[MisterBeale]

I doubt Angela Davis benefitted from privilege. And if she did, it would be her responsibilty to fight for those who don't.Whites such as yourself don't seem to understand the concept of privilege in regard to race. Davis was born in 1944. But here, this is what you dishonestly don't post because some racist on twitterx wants to discredit blacks and deny Americas history of racism by whites.

Angela Davis was born on January 26, 1944, in Birmingham, Alabama. She was christened at her father's Episcopal church. Her family lived in the "Dynamite Hill" neighborhood, which was marked in the 1950s by the bombings of houses in an attempt to intimidate and drive out middle-class black people who had moved there.

Angela Davis - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Where is the privilege?

Davis attended Carrie A. Tuggle School, a segregated black elementary school, and later, Parker Annex, a middle-school branch of Parker High School in Birmingham.

By her junior year of high school, Davis had been accepted by an American Friends Service Committee (Quaker) program that placed black students from the South in integrated schools in the North. She chose Elisabeth Irwin High School in Greenwich Village.
Where is the privilege?

Davis was awarded a scholarship to Brandeis University in Waltham, Massachusetts, where she was one of three black students in her class.
During her second year at Brandeis, Davis decided to major in French and continued her study of philosopher and writer Jean-Paul Sartre. She was accepted by the Hamilton College Junior Year in France Program. Classes were initially at Biarritz and later at the Sorbonne. In Paris, she and other students lived with a French family. She was in Biarritz when she learned of the 1963 Birmingham church bombing, committed by members of the Ku Klux Klan, in which four black girls were killed; she had been personally acquainted with the victims.

Angela Davis - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Where is the privilege?

In short, was you posted was disingenuous and you guys need to stop doing this and face the truth of this nations history.

You just answered you own question as to why all Americans today, and the current government, have nothing to do with past injustice, past slavery and Jim Crow.

TY.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

You just answered you own question as to why all Americans today, and the current government, have nothing to do with past injustice, past slavery and Jim Crow.

TY.

In your opinion, a government which perpetuates bad law, knowing it's bad law has "nothing to do with the past injustice(s)" that the bad law allowed?

Our government's failure to act and protect a segment of its population from harm at the hands of another segment of the population is just one of its failures, particularly since the white population gained their authority to commit the harm they did FROM the government.

Why do you think there is no statute of limitation on murder?

 

[MisterBeale]

In your opinion, a government which perpetuates bad law, knowing it's bad law has "nothing to do with the past injustice(s)" that the bad law allowed?

Our government's failure to act and protect a segment of its population from harm at the hands of another segment of the population is just one of its failures, particularly since the white population gained their authority to commit the harm they did FROM the government.

Why do you think there is no statute of limitation on murder?

IM2 just admitted to different people, different time.

So, different government different time. We have evolved and grown since then. We are a different people, and this is a different time.

 

[IM2]

So Ms. Davis lived the first 20 years of her life encompassing all of her childhood during Jim Crow.

In Alabama

 

[IM2]

IM2 just admitted to different people, different time.

So, different government different time. We have evolved and grown since then. We are a different people, and this is a different time.

No I didn't and we have not evolved. Look at this forum. Stop lying about this.

 

[IM2]

You just answered you own question as to why all Americans today, and the current government, have nothing to do with past injustice, past slavery and Jim Crow.

TY.

No she didn't because white Americans today have wealth that was initially created in the past you want to pretend have nothing to do with now. A prime example is Trump. And he's not the only one. Biden came up middle class duuring Jim Crow, his father got chances blacks could not. It's time those like you stopped pretending that the past hhas nothing tto do with now. Because you only do this about racismm abd even worse you guys only do this to dodge responsibility for what whites have done.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

IM2 just admitted to different people, different time.

So, different government different time. We have evolved and grown since then. We are a different people, and this is a different time.

No, that is not true at all because if it were, then the vestiges of white supremacy and racism against Black people would be long gone and we know it isn't.

And as much as you may think "you've (inclusive)" evolved and grown, somehow still not to the point of where the United States can make a genuine act of amends which is what reparations are. It is my belief that those in our government are afraid that if they ever own up to the horror of what actually was done to Black people in America that the flood gates would open and they'd be overwhelmed with the fallout.

Passing a law is easy relatively, punishing people for failing to obey said law(s) seems to be very distasteful to those in power. The closest they've come is legislating hate crime laws and those are not standalone laws, they're enhancements to the criminal code. Those left with the destruction of their lives in other ways don't really have a lot of recourse because believe it or not, our courts still lean in the direction of leniency for whites who violate the rights and lives of Black people.

There is still a hell of a lot of work to be done.

 

[MisterBeale]

then the vestiges of white supremacy and racism against Black people would be long gone and we know it isn't.

The so called vestiges of "white supremacy," and "racism," against black folks, are no different than the bigotry against Jewish folks, or Asians, or all of the other out groups that WASPS discriminated against in the early part of the twentieth century.

I have addressed this over and over again, and this is something that is inborn, and natural to all people.'

It has to do with In-Group/Out-Group cultural differences. Just as old people are discriminatory toward the young, and the religious are naturally suspicious and hostile of non-believers. This is just how society and not only human nature works, but all all species works.


Trying to make the government solve, or economically compensate for the failings of human nature? That is insanity.

It never works. I am not against reparations for specific material damages done to specified families, and damages sought by government or programs that can be show to be legally liable for those specific damages. . . . .

. . . but trying to institute an all encompassing program that is justified by the abstract? Nope, this will cause more problems than it solves.

 

[AZrailwhale]

So Ms. Davis lived the first 20 years of her life encompassing all of her childhood during Jim Crow.

And became a committed and open member of the Communist Party which she still is today. She also supplied the weapons to the Soledad Three used in their hostage taking and courtroom breakout that resulted in two deaths. For some reason a jury decided that just because she bought the weapons, carried them into the courtroom and supplied them to the defendants, the California law stating that all persons involved in a crime are equally guilty of any deaths the happen during that crime didn't apply to her.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

And became a committed and open member of the Communist Party which she still is today. She also supplied the weapons to the Soledad Three used in their hostage taking and courtroom breakout that resulted in two deaths. For some reason a jury decided that just because she bought the weapons, carried them into the courtroom and supplied them to the defendants, the California law stating that all persons involved in a crime are equally guilty of any deaths the happen during that crime didn't apply to her.

LOL two things.

What happened to "innocent until proven guilty" and
What happened to the first amendment's freedom of association (oh nooz, she's a communist?!?)

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

The so called vestiges of "white supremacy," and "racism," against black folks, are no different than the bigotry against Jewish folks, or Asians, or all of the other out groups that WASPS discriminated against in the early part of the twentieth century.

You're wrong, the white supremacy and racism against Black people is NOTHING like the racism and bigotry against Jewish people and to a lesser extent Asians.

Ask Lisa558, the Jewish people who came to the United States seeking refuge from Hitler and the Nazis, went right to the front of the line, ahead of Black people who had been here in the U.S. going back centuries before they arrived, BECAUSE they're WHITE.

The WHITE JEWISH people, as were none of the ASIANS were ever subjected to Jim Crow which was legislation crafted specifically to control, oppress and subjugate the rights and lives of Black Americans/people of African descent.

I'll have to get back to you on whatever else you wrote.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

Trying to make the government solve, or economically compensate for the failings of human nature? That is insanity.

The United States and governments around the world have paid reparations even when they had no part in inflicting the damage. So why is it that Black Americans haven’t been compensated for centuries of slavery followed by decades of segregation?​

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This was the question addressed by a panel of experts brought together by the New York State Bar Association’s Task Force on Racism, Social Equity, and the Law on Monday night. The discussion took place two days after ten people were gunned down in a supermarket in a Black neighborhood in Buffalo by a white supremacist who scrawled “Here’s your reparations!” on his assault rifle.​

​

Author A. Kirsten Mullen pointed out that the United States government has paid reparations to Japanese families who were interned during World War II, families who lost loved ones during the Sept. 11 attacks, and to Americans held hostage in Iran. The federal government even paid reparations to slave owners for the emancipation of their slaves in the midst of the Civil War. Thomas Kraemer, Associate Professor at the School of Public Policy at the University of Connecticut, detailed how Germany reimbursed victims of the holocaust and how Haiti was forced to pay reparations to slave owners.​

​

Yet reparations paid to the families of the enslaved remains extremely controversial.​

The United States Has Paid Reparations for a Host of Issues. Why not Slavery? - New York State Bar Association.​

 

[IM2]

The so called vestiges of "white supremacy," and "racism," against black folks, are no different than the bigotry against Jewish folks, or Asians, or all of the other out groups that WASPS discriminated against in the early part of the twentieth century.

I have addressed this over and over again, and this is something that is inborn, and natural to all people.'

It has to do with In-Group/Out-Group cultural differences. Just as old people are discriminatory toward the young, and the religious are naturally suspicious and hostile of non-believers. This is just how society and not only human nature works, but all all species works.


Trying to make the government solve, or economically compensate for the failings of human nature? That is insanity.

It never works. I am not against reparations for specific material damages done to specified families, and damages sought by government or programs that can be show to be legally liable for those specific damages. . . . .

. . . but trying to institute an all encompassing program that is justified by the abstract? Nope, this will cause more problems than it solves.

There is nothing so called about this. It's time whites like you to shut up and listen. You don't think its real because you don't face it. Most of you are so clueless to your racism, you can't even see it while you're doing it. What you addressed doesn't mean a damn thing. You're just making excuses.. The government created the white middle class Beale and so your argument loses on this alone. What's insanity is whites continuing to believe they can tell us what we see and experience is not so.

White Jews were eligible for the New Deal programs. Asians get the H1B Visa that allows them employment in high paying corporate jobs. You run your mouth about things but you don't have the first clue. None of these two groups faced what blacks have and sane members of both groups will attest to it. Only whites who are racist bring up what others have faced as if it was the same. The ONLY group that has faced what blacks have are Native Americans and the government created an agency to help fix what they did, have given tribes tax free status, allow them to build casinos to create economic development and have paid out reparations. So again,, your argument is lackig and you really need to do research.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

The so called vestiges of "white supremacy," and "racism," against black folks, are no different than the bigotry against Jewish folks, or Asians, or all of the other out groups that WASPS discriminated against in the early part of the twentieth century.

I have addressed this over and over again, and this is something that is inborn, and natural to all people.'

It has to do with In-Group/Out-Group cultural differences. Just as old people are discriminatory toward the young, and the religious are naturally suspicious and hostile of non-believers. This is just how society and not only human nature works, but all all species works.


Trying to make the government solve, or economically compensate for the failings of human nature? That is insanity.

It never works. I am not against reparations for specific material damages done to specified families, and damages sought by government or programs that can be show to be legally liable for those specific damages. . . . .

. . . but trying to institute an all encompassing program that is justified by the abstract? Nope, this will cause more problems than it solves.

I posted this just for you. What I'm referring to are not "so called vestiges", I was being generous:
Zone1 - Tacoma Officers Cleared in Black Man’s Death Will Get $500,000 Each to Resign

 

[AZrailwhale]

LOL two things.

What happened to "innocent until proven guilty" and
What happened to the first amendment's freedom of association (oh nooz, she's a communist?!?)

There is no doubt that she bought the shotgun in question, she bought it in her name. She used that to claim her innocence. The prosecution just did a lousy job of presenting a weak case.