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    It's what they were told to think.

    It all began with the DNC inter-office mails.

    WikiLeaks - Search the DNC email database

    "Trump spouts hateful and dangerous lies about Muslims and called to surveil mosques, to ban Muslims from entering the country and to create a database of all Muslims in America - including U.S. citizens - and could not answer when pressed on how this would be any different from Nazi Germany."

    All bullshit. BTW, the wikileaks show how the MSM is in cahoots with the DNC.

    Yes indeed. The cat is out of the bag.
     
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    It's the same reason right wingers start endless threads about how Hitler was a liberal: Americans have lost the ability to communicate and debate and challenge each other in an intelligent, reasonable and thoughtful manner.

    It's much easier to just knee-jerk into hyperbole and blast away. No real intelligence, reason or thought required.

    This is what happens when a culture becomes narcissistic, shallow and intellectually lazy.
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    Actually the claim is the Nazis were left wingers, and some indeed were, like Goebbels and Himmler. Hitler himself was an opportunist, and joined a movement that was essentially left wing at the beginning, when the Strasserites dominated the early Nazi ideology. When the Party lost the elections of 1932, he tossed the Strassers and their plan to make compromises with the center left Party under the bus and cut a deal with the Junkers and industrialists and went 'Right', blackmailed Hindenburg, and assassinated his chief rival, and having his own private army at that point was able to pull off seizing the Chancellorship. 'National Bolshevism' is alive and well in Russia today as well.

    German National Bolshevism

    "National Bolshevism" as a term was first used to describe a current in the Communist Party of Germany (KPD) and then the Communist Workers' Party of Germany (KAPD) which wanted to ally the insurgent communist movement with dissident nationalist groups in the German army who rejected the Treaty of Versailles.[4] They were led by Heinrich Laufenberg and Fritz Wolffheim, based in Hamburg. Their expulsion from the KAPD was one of the conditions that Karl Radek explained was necessary if the KAPD was to be welcomed to the Third Congress of the Third International. However the demand that they withdraw from the KAPD would probably have happened anyway. Radek had dismissed the pair as "National Bolsheviks", the first recorded use of the term in a German context.[5]

    Radek subsequently courted some of the radical nationalists he had met in prison to unite with the Bolsheviks in the name of National Bolshevism. He saw in a revival of National Bolshevism a way to "remove the capitalist isolation" of the Soviet Union.[1]

    During the 1920s, a number of German intellectuals began a dialogue which created a synthesis between radical nationalism (typically referencing Prussianism) and Bolshevism as it existed in the Soviet Union. The main figure in this was Ernst Niekisch of the Old Social Democratic Party of Germany, who edited the Widerstand journal.[6]

    A National Bolshevik tendency also existed with the German Youth Movement, led by Karl Otto Paetel. Paetel had been a supporter of the Nazi Party but became disillusioned with them as he did not feel they were truly committed to revolutionary activity or socialist economics. His 1930-formed movement, the Group of Social Revolutionary Nationalists, sought to forge a "third way" between the Nazis and the Communists, emphasising both nationalism and socialist economics.[7] he was especially active in a largely unsuccessful attempt to win section of the Hitler Youth over to his cause.[8]

    Although members of the National Socialist German Workers' Party under Adolf Hitler did not take part in Niekisch's National Bolshevik project and usually presented Bolshevism in exclusively negative terms as a "Jewish conspiracy", in the early 1930s there was a parallel tendency within the NSDAP which advocated similar views. This was represented by what has come to be known as Strasserism. A group led by Hermann Ehrhardt, Otto Strasser and Walther Stennes broke away in 1930 to found the Combat League of Revolutionary National Socialists (commonly known as the Black Front).[9]


    National Bolshevism - Wikipedia

    Hitler went on to adopt many policies from the Strasserites and Bolsheviks, nonetheless; after all, for the vast majority of people the existential realities under either Commies or Nazis are pretty much distinctions without a difference for most, and that includes what the PC Nazis and 'Anti-Fas' have in store for Americans if they were allowed to seize real power; they would be just like both. This is why Trump bashing posters like 'Playtime' come across as jealous rants; they see him as a roadblock to their dreams as wannabee Commissars and getting Big Important Government Jobs N Stuff ordering us all around and studiously searching out Politically Incorrect Stuff they can send people to 're-education camps' or 'murder pits' for, according to how they feel at any given moment.
     
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    And there ya go.
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    Yes, real life can be annoying, which is why so many avoid studying history and prefer it packaged as 'talking points' slanted one way or another.
     
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    It's his own form of populist "resistance". To push-back on the massive assault on tradition, symbols, statues and historical figures. All of which are now targeted by minions on the left wanting to PURGE all these things from the public commons.

    One good "resistance" deserves another. Every resistance gets an equal and OPPOSITE resistance. :badgrin:

    And so goes your useless partisan tribal wars. While America dies a bit more every day and suffers.
     
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    All of that cited in' #1' are also present in all the Commie regimes as well, so why people think they're only 'fascist' symbols is just ignorance; even the Soviets' poster art and statues looked exactly like the Nazis art in style and content, so did Mao's and the Mad Midget's. Putting them side by side and they look as if the same artists did them for all of them. National Review once did an article doing exactly that some years ago.
     
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    You forgot....."the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
     

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