I think America should have a 2nd Civil War

[grainbely]

We have moles in The FBI, DOJ, in our schools, our Courts, and in our Institutions that are Hell Bent on destroying America.

We now know The Obama Administration, FBI and DOJ launched a soft COUP and an attack on an incoming President even before he took the oath of office.

I really think it's going to have to come down to this that for America to Survive, we are going to have to purge ourselves of Seditious Traitors, Marxists, Socialists and Globalists, and people who won't get off their asses and work and pay taxes.

We won't have to fire a shot imo, because eventually The Resistance is going to resort to violence when they won't get their way, and they will force Americans to defend their country.

Looking forward to killing people or just making America great?

do you put the names of your enemies on your bullets?

Anyone who wants to kill me for loving My Country, My Constitution, My Flag and My Freedom is my enemy

If they are a Jihadist or Drug Dealer or Leftist Fanatic, I'll be happy to send them straight to Hell.

But no one should look forward to having to defend themselves. Hopefully it isn't necessary.

It sounds like you are the one that wants to kill others. Maybe go see a shrink?

 

[beagle9]

So you agree with the democrat policy of sanctuary cities. You can't have it both ways. If you're protecting illegals, then don't squawk when they get jobs. If they weren't here, they wouldn't be able to get a job here. Idiot.

How ridiculous. That's like saying if you are against building the stupid wall you are for illegal immigration. Just not true.

Sanctuary cities probably realize the hypocracy of your policies and so they don't allow you to go after the drug user when you ignore the drug dealers.

The corporations you protect being the dealers. The drug cartels.

You know, when Bill Gates created the Microsoft Windows system, what did he include in that system, and why did he include that into his system ???

He added "A WALL", OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE FIREWALL.

Now why did he add this into his platform/ virtual world he created ??

It was put there to PROTECT THE SYSTEM against who ???? Hackers and you name it right ?

So why is it that millennials think that we don't need security on our border, yet they have embraced the Microsoft platform with open arms ????? Are mellenials just stupid or busy picking and choosing what they think is important these days, and to hell with 200+ years of progress ??

Are we the ones stupid for trusting liberals today ?? I mean come on already.

But for 200 years we didn’t need a wall. What has changed?

I don't know.. Why don't you ask Bill Gates why he needed a firewall on the windows systems ?? Wasn't it to keep out those hackers etc who would destroy his project if they could ??

What's the difference on the border security ??

We need it, and it needs to be done right.

We sure do need to figure out how to stop illegals from crossing the border it’s just that a two trillion dollar wall isn’t the answer

Two trillion ?? LOL

5 billion is what is asked for (a light amount) which is nothing. If we can't invest 5 billion into our safety here in America, then we are done here. Period.

Example: The final estimate of the cost of the Interstate System was issued in 1991. It estimated that the total cost would be $128.9 billion, with a Federal share of $114.3 billion. This estimate covered only the mileage (42,795 miles) built under the Interstate Construction Program.

2,000 miles verses 42,795 miles, and we act as if we can't or don't know what to do anymore about a problem ?

You people slay me....

How much will we as working taxpayers end up paying in welfare programs for millions of illegals here ????

It takes years upon years to absorb, train, and teach these people to become responsible productive citizens in everyway that an American is in the country for the most part, but in the meantime we pay.

 

[Lesh]

It sounds like you are the one that wants to kill others. Maybe go see a shrink?

It more than sounds like that.

By advocating for CIvil War he is actively saying he wants dead Americans.

There's something wrong like people like that

 

[Uncensored2008]

[
I didn’t say he wasn’t a brilliant business guy I said he broke th social contract that existed at the time.

You're not smart enough to grasp the brilliance of Jack Welch.

One of the better things Welch did was to introduce PIE - "Production Incentive Equity." This process established goals for General Electric production workers, that when met resulted in extra cash to the rank and file.

Prior to Welch, bonuses were something only executives received. Welch flowed them down to every person working at GE.

A company would keep Larry who’d been there 27 years so he could make his 30 year pension. Even if Larry as overpaid and not sharp anymore.

You lying pile of slanderous shit.

First off, GE is union. Even if Welch were anything like your fucking lies, he would not have been able to do as you dishonestly claim. But you are mindlessly lying about a man who in fact greatly increased the compensation for GE workers as well and growing corporation exponentially.

Today what is the average lifespan of a job? 5 years?

And the Larry’s of America got pensions?

So don’t wonder how the gap between the rich and poor widened. The Jack Welch’s screwed you larrys

I know what happened, offshoring.

But you are a fucking liar who makes shit up to base your idiocy on.

 

[Uncensored2008]

What causes "inflation"????? Put your thinking cap on........here is a hint "The Federal Reserve".......

What causes the gap between the rich and poor to widen?

1. Hiring illegals
2. Breaking unions
3. Sending good paying jobs overseas.
4. Buying from Walmart and China
5. Giving tax breaks to the rich
6. Deregulation’s that encourage corporate greed.
7. Next to No interest on our savings
8. CEOs pay skyrockets but workers pay stay flat.

The federal reserve while bullshit is just a distraction from all these other truths.

Now you and trump want to bring manufacturing back but at $15 hr.

The gap in wealth disparity goes back to the root cause of the entity that owns USA.INC and their ability to extend credit from nothing AND extract those lines of credit when it suits their needs..........

I’ll agree. So you admit class warfare exists.

So believe me when I tell you the attack on the middle class is multi faceted.

I forgot one. Cutting social services and social programs. That’s another reason the gaps growing. For example the rich get a tax break but we suffer cuts to Medicare and social security. Further making the gap wider.

At least you realize class warfare is real.

Of course it exists ....but you are expecting relief from the very elite class that owns the majority of wealth which is akin to asking Colonel Sanders for better pen conditions for the chickens before they are hacked into thighs, legs, wings and breasts floured in Sanders secret herbs and spices before they are "fried".

Get this though your head......we have been nothing but a resource that has had diminishing returns as the robotic age and artificial intelligence age approaches. We are losing any bargaining power by the day. The great culling of what the elites refer to as "worthless eaters" began at least three decades ago.

So instead of discussing the 8 real ways the gap between the rich and poor widened you want to try to convince people the income tax is unconstitutional and we should worry about automation?

How can anyone "discuss" with one like you who flat out lies and just makes shit up?

Discussion would require you to know what the fuck you're talking about.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Seriously? You seem to suffer from advanced paranoia.

Well kewl Comrade.

I mean, you Communists do have a long history of being warm, fuzzy, and cuddly, so obviously you'll act as you always do.

{Stalin also devised another means of democide when he ordered the forced starvation of the Ukrainians, and five million more innocent victims were added to his totals. In Communist China seventy million people were the victims of democide, murdered by overwork in slave-labor camps, by direct execution, and by regional forced starvation. Millions more were victims of democide in Pakistan, Cambodia, Rwanda, North Korea, and many other countries.}

Democide: Socialism, Tyranny, Guns and Freedom

I've been friends with lots of conservatives - and lot's of 'Rednecks'. I like them on a personal level...fun people to party with. I just learned not to bother discussing politics with them because it's like talking to a child.

Notice that I usually don't get into debates with you...now you know why.

You don't "debate" with anyone. You spew leftist memes and talking points. You lack the intellect to debate. Of course, if you had an IQ above 50, you wouldn't be a Stalinist democrat.....

 

[caddo kid]

Thread is drowning in stupidity.

CONSIDER THE SOURCE

 

[GreenAndBlue]

How ridiculous. That's like saying if you are against building the stupid wall you are for illegal immigration. Just not true.

Sanctuary cities probably realize the hypocracy of your policies and so they don't allow you to go after the drug user when you ignore the drug dealers.

The corporations you protect being the dealers. The drug cartels.

You know, when Bill Gates created the Microsoft Windows system, what did he include in that system, and why did he include that into his system ???

He added "A WALL", OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE FIREWALL.

Now why did he add this into his platform/ virtual world he created ??

It was put there to PROTECT THE SYSTEM against who ???? Hackers and you name it right ?

So why is it that millennials think that we don't need security on our border, yet they have embraced the Microsoft platform with open arms ????? Are mellenials just stupid or busy picking and choosing what they think is important these days, and to hell with 200+ years of progress ??

Are we the ones stupid for trusting liberals today ?? I mean come on already.

But for 200 years we didn’t need a wall. What has changed?

I don't know.. Why don't you ask Bill Gates why he needed a firewall on the windows systems ?? Wasn't it to keep out those hackers etc who would destroy his project if they could ??

What's the difference on the border security ??

We need it, and it needs to be done right.

We sure do need to figure out how to stop illegals from crossing the border it’s just that a two trillion dollar wall isn’t the answer

Two trillion ?? LOL

5 billion is what is asked for (a light amount) which is nothing. If we can't invest 5 billion into our safety here in America, then we are done here. Period.

Example: The final estimate of the cost of the Interstate System was issued in 1991. It estimated that the total cost would be $128.9 billion, with a Federal share of $114.3 billion. This estimate covered only the mileage (42,795 miles) built under the Interstate Construction Program.

2,000 miles verses 42,795 miles, and we act as if we can't or don't know what to do anymore about a problem ?

You people slay me....

How much will we as working taxpayers end up paying in welfare programs for millions of illegals here ????

It takes years upon years to absorb, train, and teach these people to become responsible productive citizens in everyway that an American is in the country for the most part, but in the meantime we pay.

Correct

 

[anynameyouwish]

How ridiculous. That's like saying if you are against building the stupid wall you are for illegal immigration. Just not true.

Sanctuary cities probably realize the hypocracy of your policies and so they don't allow you to go after the drug user when you ignore the drug dealers.

The corporations you protect being the dealers. The drug cartels.

You know, when Bill Gates created the Microsoft Windows system, what did he include in that system, and why did he include that into his system ???

He added "A WALL", OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE FIREWALL.

Now why did he add this into his platform/ virtual world he created ??

It was put there to PROTECT THE SYSTEM against who ???? Hackers and you name it right ?

So why is it that millennials think that we don't need security on our border, yet they have embraced the Microsoft platform with open arms ????? Are mellenials just stupid or busy picking and choosing what they think is important these days, and to hell with 200+ years of progress ??

Are we the ones stupid for trusting liberals today ?? I mean come on already.

But for 200 years we didn’t need a wall. What has changed?

I don't know.. Why don't you ask Bill Gates why he needed a firewall on the windows systems ?? Wasn't it to keep out those hackers etc who would destroy his project if they could ??

What's the difference on the border security ??

We need it, and it needs to be done right.

We sure do need to figure out how to stop illegals from crossing the border it’s just that a two trillion dollar wall isn’t the answer

Two trillion ?? LOL

5 billion is what is asked for (a light amount) which is nothing. If we can't invest 5 billion into our safety here in America, then we are done here. Period.

Example: The final estimate of the cost of the Interstate System was issued in 1991. It estimated that the total cost would be $128.9 billion, with a Federal share of $114.3 billion. This estimate covered only the mileage (42,795 miles) built under the Interstate Construction Program.

2,000 miles verses 42,795 miles, and we act as if we can't or don't know what to do anymore about a problem ?

You people slay me....

How much will we as working taxpayers end up paying in welfare programs for millions of illegals here ????

It takes years upon years to absorb, train, and teach these people to become responsible productive citizens in everyway that an American is in the country for the most part, but in the meantime we pay.

and if we asked for 5 billion to help the homeless or poor would you be saying "SOCIALISM is THEFT!"

 

[beagle9]

This thread like any thread makes some good points per some posters, but of course there are those for whom want to shut down any thread that goes against their long term Agenda's. Now I agree that a civil war isn't the answer to the nation's problems (proven by the last huge civil war that left a battle scarred separated America that has lasted for generations upon generations since).

It's still an on going thing to this very day, where as the faces have changed, but the strategies in the aftermath is still on going by all sides that were involved, where as people are just repositioning or flipping as one side or the other changes demographics, cultures, blame, and their sharing in the confusion over it all.

People must come together over great standards of conduct to be set, moral standards to be set, and to respect the flag in which it all would exist up under. We had this once to a large degree, but something has changed, and it's not looking to good.

Anything less on the agreements on being a good people for whom are with standards and morals, equals possible wars and the rumors of wars that will eventually come.

 

[anynameyouwish]

This thread like any thread makes some good points per some posters, but of course there are those for whom want to shut down any thread that goes against their long term Agenda's. Now I agree that a civil war isn't the answer to the nation's problems (proven by the last huge civil war that left a battle scarred separated America that has lasted for generations upon generations since).

It's still an on going thing to this very day, where as the faces have changed, but the strategies in the aftermath is still on going by all sides that were involved, where as people are just repositioning or flipping as one side or the other changes demographics, cultures, blame, and their sharing in the confusion over it all.

People must come together over great standards of conduct to be set, moral standards to be set, and to respect the flag in which it all would exist up under. We had this once to a large degree, but something has changed, and it's not looking to good.

Anything less on the agreements on being a good people for whom are with standards and morals, equals possible wars and the rumors of wars that will eventually come.

As long as atheists, gays, liberals, pot smokers. non-christians are treated with respect and have equal rights then I can live in peace with conservatives and conservative-christians.

 

[anynameyouwish]

We have moles in The FBI, DOJ, in our schools, our Courts, and in our Institutions that are Hell Bent on destroying America.

We now know The Obama Administration, FBI and DOJ launched a soft COUP and an attack on an incoming President even before he took the oath of office.

I really think it's going to have to come down to this that for America to Survive, we are going to have to purge ourselves of Seditious Traitors, Marxists, Socialists and Globalists, and people who won't get off their asses and work and pay taxes.

We won't have to fire a shot imo, because eventually The Resistance is going to resort to violence when they won't get their way, and they will force Americans to defend their country.

Looking forward to killing people or just making America great?

do you put the names of your enemies on your bullets?

Anyone who wants to kill me for loving My Country, My Constitution, My Flag and My Freedom is my enemy

If they are a Jihadist or Drug Dealer or Leftist Fanatic, I'll be happy to send them straight to Hell.

But no one should look forward to having to defend themselves. Hopefully it isn't necessary.

"Anyone who wants to kill me for loving My Country, My Constitution, My Flag and My Freedom is my enemy"


nobody wants to kill you for loving YOUR country, YOUR constitution, YOUR flag or YOUR freedom.

We merely wish to deny you your attempts to FORCE EVERYONE to bow to YOUR GOD and YOUR BELIEFS.

The USA is MY country, too.

 

[beagle9]

You know, when Bill Gates created the Microsoft Windows system, what did he include in that system, and why did he include that into his system ???

He added "A WALL", OTHERWISE KNOWN AS THE FIREWALL.

Now why did he add this into his platform/ virtual world he created ??

It was put there to PROTECT THE SYSTEM against who ???? Hackers and you name it right ?

So why is it that millennials think that we don't need security on our border, yet they have embraced the Microsoft platform with open arms ????? Are mellenials just stupid or busy picking and choosing what they think is important these days, and to hell with 200+ years of progress ??

Are we the ones stupid for trusting liberals today ?? I mean come on already.

But for 200 years we didn’t need a wall. What has changed?

I don't know.. Why don't you ask Bill Gates why he needed a firewall on the windows systems ?? Wasn't it to keep out those hackers etc who would destroy his project if they could ??

What's the difference on the border security ??

We need it, and it needs to be done right.

We sure do need to figure out how to stop illegals from crossing the border it’s just that a two trillion dollar wall isn’t the answer

Two trillion ?? LOL

5 billion is what is asked for (a light amount) which is nothing. If we can't invest 5 billion into our safety here in America, then we are done here. Period.

Example: The final estimate of the cost of the Interstate System was issued in 1991. It estimated that the total cost would be $128.9 billion, with a Federal share of $114.3 billion. This estimate covered only the mileage (42,795 miles) built under the Interstate Construction Program.

2,000 miles verses 42,795 miles, and we act as if we can't or don't know what to do anymore about a problem ?

You people slay me....

How much will we as working taxpayers end up paying in welfare programs for millions of illegals here ????

It takes years upon years to absorb, train, and teach these people to become responsible productive citizens in everyway that an American is in the country for the most part, but in the meantime we pay.

and if we asked for 5 billion to help the homeless or poor would you be saying "SOCIALISM is THEFT!"

Define what creates the homeless and poor in this country, and then ask yourself should the country just cover all poor with other people's hard earned money, and this instead of finding out why a person is poor first ??????? How about us applying solutions specific to that person's condition instead of allowing a piggy back or pile on by others who take advantage of the situation, and take advantage of the give aways based on blanket poverty ????? Demon-crats using poverty as an exploited platform for power is the ultimate in deplorablism.

 

[beagle9]

This thread like any thread makes some good points per some posters, but of course there are those for whom want to shut down any thread that goes against their long term Agenda's. Now I agree that a civil war isn't the answer to the nation's problems (proven by the last huge civil war that left a battle scarred separated America that has lasted for generations upon generations since).

It's still an on going thing to this very day, where as the faces have changed, but the strategies in the aftermath is still on going by all sides that were involved, where as people are just repositioning or flipping as one side or the other changes demographics, cultures, blame, and their sharing in the confusion over it all.

People must come together over great standards of conduct to be set, moral standards to be set, and to respect the flag in which it all would exist up under. We had this once to a large degree, but something has changed, and it's not looking to good.

Anything less on the agreements on being a good people for whom are with standards and morals, equals possible wars and the rumors of wars that will eventually come.

As long as atheists, gays, liberals, pot smokers. non-christians are treated with respect and have equal rights then I can live in peace with conservatives and conservative-christians.

This is you that you are talking about, but your view isn't represented by the more radical views rising or raising it's ugly head among the tyrannical leftist in this country now.

 

[GreenAndBlue]

The only thing that will stop democracies from commiting suicide is a logic test for voters and for juries

Only ones with logic can see what a fact is and what evidence is and what proves what

Without logic People are totally blind to understand correctly

The wise founders were right

There never was a democracy that didn't commit suicide

 

[beagle9]

The only thing that will stop democracies from commiting suicide is a logic test for voters and for juries

Only ones with logic can see what a fact is and what evidence is and what proves what

Without logic People are totally blind to understand correctly

The wise founders were right

There never was a democracy that didn't commit suicide

Loaded post.... Many will arrive at the new generational opinion of who is right and who is wrong these days ?

With all my being I think that I am right about some issues I feel as if I'm knowledgeable about, but I won't be convincing some no matter how convinced I am myself of some things I believe.

So there has to be consensus among a majority, and yet if we have a rogue generation that has been duped, then there lay your conclusions of a democracy committing suicide.

 

[GreenAndBlue]

The only thing that will stop democracies from commiting suicide is a logic test for voters and for juries

Only ones with logic can see what a fact is and what evidence is and what proves what

Without logic People are totally blind to understand correctly

The wise founders were right

There never was a democracy that didn't commit suicide

Loaded post.... Many will arrive at the new generational opinion of who is right and who is wrong these days ?

With all my being I think that I am right about some issues I feel as if I'm knowledgeable about, but I won't be convincing some no matter how convinced I am myself of some things I believe.

So there has to be consensus among a majority, and yet if we have a rogue generation that has been duped, then there lay your conclusions of a democracy committing suicide.

The consensus has to be from the highest logic ability people and with experience which is data and history to use the higher logic on

The founders set 35 as the min age for a president and that shows they do not want democracy ... They used a property test to find the highest logic ability voters. They saw women as too emotional and that could have crooks brainwashing them like we see today with the deep state crooks elected more by the women

Without logic a person is blind to understanding good from bad

Logic is like eyesight allows a person to see much better

History shows life has these life cycles where the unwise gains freedoms and then goes too far and elects crooks and the cycles end in painful destructions and progress going backwards again and the next cycle begins with strict controls on the unwise freedoms

Trump and him bringing a logjc and experience test for voters is America's and europes last chance to avoid the universal law of destruction of democracies

 

[beagle9]

The only thing that will stop democracies from commiting suicide is a logic test for voters and for juries

Only ones with logic can see what a fact is and what evidence is and what proves what

Without logic People are totally blind to understand correctly

The wise founders were right

There never was a democracy that didn't commit suicide

Loaded post.... Many will arrive at the new generational opinion of who is right and who is wrong these days ?

With all my being I think that I am right about some issues I feel as if I'm knowledgeable about, but I won't be convincing some no matter how convinced I am myself of some things I believe.

So there has to be consensus among a majority, and yet if we have a rogue generation that has been duped, then there lay your conclusions of a democracy committing suicide.

The consensus has to be from the highest logic ability people and with experience which is data and history to use the higher logic on

The founders set 35 as the min age for a president and that shows they do not want democracy ... They used a property test to find the highest logic ability voters. They saw women as too emotional and that could have crooks brainwashing them like we see today with the deep state crooks elected more by the women

Without logic a person is blind to understanding good from bad

Logic is like eyesight allows a person to see much better

History shows life has these life cycles where the unwise gains freedoms and then goes too far and elects crooks and the cycles end in painful destructions and progress going backwards again and the next cycle begins with strict controls on the unwise freedoms

Trump and him bringing a logjc and experience test for voters is America's and europes last chance to avoid the universal law of destruction of democracies

So you think or feel that women aren't strong enough in character or in wisdom to actually rule over men in any way shape or form ?? This is your solid stance in life ?

I think women are strong in their own ways of thinking, and in their own character, but are they strong enough to rule over men ?

Hmmm, some men I imagine are the type that women could rule over of course, and they need it I guess, but not all men would agree to this concept as is proven throughout time.

What does all of history tell us about this delema ?? I'm not sure of the history of women ruling kingdoms as in Egypt along with the end results, so I am not one to judge the ruling power of a woman verses the ruling power of a man be it in various situations down throughout history.

Me and my wife do great together (4o+ years now), and we seem to work great together by using each other's strengths covering our weaknesses in order to get by in life.

I am the Braun with a fair amount of logic, and she is the opposite as is of course found in her being a woman.... She has a bit more intellect or logic than me on some thing's, so we work great to help each other get by in life. Win, win, win for the both of us in life.

Interesting topic I would imagine though, and it can't be anymore divisive than this thread is... LOL.

 

[GreenAndBlue]

Women were given better memory intellect

Men were given better logic intellect

This was a puzzle fit


The men with logic figures out good from bad. True from false and value from non value and are the predictors of harm or success and are the phrophets that predicts correctly

The women with better memory then remembers what the man figures out and with her better speach ability she tells the kids

A perfect puzzle fit

But not all men are made this way

Many men were made to take risks and be warriors and their logic will not be high enough to be obeyed by women

And also the greed monsters men

None can truly lead and help women and kids

So the highest logic person can see all this and place the different abilities correctly on the human team

High logic voters will recognize these best leaders and elect the best progress for all

Also like the men chiefs who selected who for their daughters to marry and to obey. That is a universal law for the best progress for all

The female with lower logic and emotions changing on top of lower logjc must not decide who to marry herself

These are universal laws that will predict correctly

 

[beagle9]

Women were given better memory intellect

Men were given better logic intellect

This was a puzzle fit


The men with logic figures out good from bad. True from false and value from non value and are the predictors of harm or success and are the phrophets that predicts correctly

The women with better memory then remembers what the man figures out and with her better speach ability she tells the kids

A perfect puzzle fit

But not all men are made this way

Many men were made to take risks and be warriors and their logic will not be high enough to be obeyed by women

And also the greed monsters men

None can truly lead and help women and kids

So the highest logic person can see all this and place the different abilities correctly on the human team

High logic voters will recognize these best leaders and elect the best progress for all

Also like the men chiefs who selected who for their daughters to marry and to obey. That is a universal law for the best progress for all

The female with lower logic and emotions changing on top of lower logjc must not decide who to marry herself

These are universal laws that will predict correctly

Are you a Muslim ?