i like obama more now than before.

[washamericom]

it's amazing how people react, when all i did was compliment the president for one facet of his complicated presidency. i think he still has policy left from the kennedy era, and the democrats have made so many blunders.
however, as i say, with pelosi out of power, he stands a better chance to succeed.

Sure, you love Obama, he is doing so wonderful, and now that you can use Pelosi as the Scapegoat, Obama has less obstacles.

You sound like your working for "Organizing for America".

Complicated presidency, no more so than anyone else.

Pelosi out of power, Pelosi and Obama were a team, Obama had a majority in the Senate and the House, Pelosi was an obstacle.

So there it is folks, right here in this thread, its time to lie and spread more propaganda, Obama has learned from Iran's actions, not that Obama could of or should of learned anything in the last thirty years being always polically active. What has Obama learned about Iran, was Obama so naive about Iran entering office now he has had an epiphany?

Obama should of knew who Iran was, and Obama did, to state Obama is learning on the job, on how to mold foreign policy around Iran shows the inexpereince and the lack of ability on Obama's part.

Obama is allowing Iran to build Nuclear Weapons, Obama is allowing Iran to build Nuclear Weapons, Obama is allowing Iran to build Nuclear Weapons.

you're cynical. i own and write for a conservative website. i don't love obama, i think he's totally wasted two years with pelosi and reid. he has butchered the domestic agenda, we can't even secure our borders for preventing mexican gangs from occupying american soil.
i don't know your "organizing america"
he's hypocritcal and bends for special interests, while condemning other for doning the same. i don't think he hates america. he is a socialist and he insulted the supreme court, fully one third of the american government. but i like his recent actions on iran.

 

[grunt11b]

look, obama fucked up with iran the first time and this time he's got it right, in my mind. no one was more pissed off than i, by his silence then, but one of the marks of a strong leader is intelligence, the capacity for understanding. when someone does something well, i'm not afraid to acknowledge. i follow john bolton and krauthammer for foreign policy and they disagree with me on this.

Again, you have to go off of his initial decision, as president you dont get a second chance. He supported the uproar in Egypt because Mubarek supported America for the last 30 years, they where wanting democracy there and he supported that, but when the people of Iran wanted democracy he did not support them and he was silent about that decent.
He is buddies with dictators "Bowing to them". wake the hell up already, he is not a true American patriot, he is the opposite.
Why do I have the feeling in about another 4 years I will be put along a wall and shot by the G-man?.........In AMERICA!
Obama supported decent in Egypt, even called it democracy, but when people here at home did not support him and piled in 2 million deep on the capital for a tea party he did not support that democracy? He didn't believe in that movement, did he? He did not believe in democracy then did he? It was all racism according to him. Wake up.

 

[washamericom]

look, obama fucked up with iran the first time and this time he's got it right, in my mind. no one was more pissed off than i, by his silence then, but one of the marks of a strong leader is intelligence, the capacity for understanding. when someone does something well, i'm not afraid to acknowledge. i follow john bolton and krauthammer for foreign policy and they disagree with me on this.

Again, you have to go off of his initial decision, as president you dont get a second chance. He supported the uproar in Egypt because Mubarek supported America for the last 30 years, they where wanting democracy there and he supported that, but when the people of Iran wanted democracy he did not support them and he was silent about that decent.
He is buddies with dictators "Bowing to them". wake the hell up already, he is not a true American patriot, he is the opposite.
Why do I have the feeling in about another 4 years I will be put along a wall and shot by the G-man?.........In AMERICA!
Obama supported decent in Egypt, even called it democracy, but when people here at home did not support him and piled in 2 million deep on the capital for a tea party he did not support that democracy? He didn't believe in that movement, did he? He did not believe in democracy then did he? It was all racism according to him. Wake up.

you sound hysterical like a typical democrat. all dramatic and chickenlittly.

 

[GStarz]

it's amazing how people react, when all i did was compliment the president for one facet of his complicated presidency. i think he still has policy left from the kennedy era, and the democrats have made so many blunders.
however, as i say, with pelosi out of power, he stands a better chance to succeed.

Sure, you love Obama, he is doing so wonderful, and now that you can use Pelosi as the Scapegoat, Obama has less obstacles.

You sound like your working for "Organizing for America".

Complicated presidency, no more so than anyone else.

Pelosi out of power, Pelosi and Obama were a team, Obama had a majority in the Senate and the House, Pelosi was an obstacle.

So there it is folks, right here in this thread, its time to lie and spread more propaganda, Obama has learned from Iran's actions, not that Obama could of or should of learned anything in the last thirty years being always polically active. What has Obama learned about Iran, was Obama so naive about Iran entering office now he has had an epiphany?

Obama should of knew who Iran was, and Obama did, to state Obama is learning on the job, on how to mold foreign policy around Iran shows the inexpereince and the lack of ability on Obama's part.

Obama is allowing Iran to build Nuclear Weapons, Obama is allowing Iran to build Nuclear Weapons, Obama is allowing Iran to build Nuclear Weapons.

This is a really, really sharp analysis, and the idea that this poster may be a liberal operative posing as a moderate republican struck me also. Being in the arts and sciences, I cannot help but have liberal friends, so i know what moderation is about, but this just rings like a phony bullshit scam. I know how liberals and moderate conservatives sound, and know moderation myself as the way the world operates. But statements like, "I think he is learning" and "I didn't like him at first but I think he's getting better" sound like the careful, considered script of a telemarketer, and sounds just as artificial.

I agree. Not buying it. Not for a second. Obama is so polarizing that liberals now either love him because he isn't conservative or hate him because they feel he's too moderate, and everyone else - all GOP and most independents - abandoned him long ago.. The topic poster's supposed experience runs in opposition to all evidence in Obama's favor, while sounding artificially sympathetic to his critics.

A plant.

 

[GStarz]

i tried hard to like him at first, but i couldn't get past the condescention or his policy.
now (all of the sudden) i like him more. i think his interface with iran (this time) is spot on, his comments timely and appropriate.
so that's a big thing. i think he learned from iran's june 09 revolt, and he is getting a second chance, i hope iran becomes free.
overall, i think he is changing with the job, so he may turn out to be a pretty good president. whether christie runs or not, he will hold the president to a high standard of logic and pragmatism, in the upcoming election
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0DaWSMZnEQ

Oh please, he's just pretending to move to the center the way Clinton did because he realized his influence could lose elections for democrats rather than win them, as November 2010 proved, when the more he campaigned for a candidate, the lower their polls sunk.

At this point after watching this Marxist jerk for 2 years, I would need Jesus Christ himself to come down from the heavens and confirm if anything Obama said was true or not. Obama said health care debates would be held on c-span - they were held behind closed doors and crafted in secret and rammed down America's throat on Christmas eve (talk about insult upon - literal - injury!). Obama said unemployment would not go up, and after trillions of dollars in spending to create jobs, none were created and the nation faces bankruptcy because of that spending. Obama said he would restore the world's faith in America, and then proceed to bow to Saudi princes, inappropriately touch the Queen of England and a million other things to the point that newspapers from Australia to Russia write columns every day laughing at us for having Obama as our so-called president. And he said he would have the most open administration in history, and continues to fight lawsuits so as to keep his long form birth certificate - that would confirm his very eligibility to hold office - secret as public court records confirm (no conspiracy theory there, so know it), even with liberals like Huffington post, Chris Matthews, Mother Jones news, Lynn Samuels and other liberals now calling for him to release those records.

He postures a bit to look moderate? No way. Not good enough, my friend. Not even remotely close. Obama is bad news. Period.

I agree 100%, And I love the glitter bear video, that is AWESOME!!! "I need drugs!!" HAHAHAHA!!!

Hey, thanks! i don't know if anyone ever clicks on links in signatures at the bottom of a post, assumed they didn't because I generally don't, but put it there just in case. I appreciate the time you took to look and enjoy! I was going to abandon the series, but a sudden uptick in enthusiastic posts made me change my mind. Seems to be catching on a tiny bit, (I have no idea how to market this stuff on Youtube, which is like another planet for me, operationally) and I think you'll love the coming 2 episodes. My own opinion is that they're better than any of the others. You grow into the style of a thing as you go.

My thanks!

 

[washamericom]

it's amazing how people react, when all i did was compliment the president for one facet of his complicated presidency. i think he still has policy left from the kennedy era, and the democrats have made so many blunders.
however, as i say, with pelosi out of power, he stands a better chance to succeed.

Sure, you love Obama, he is doing so wonderful, and now that you can use Pelosi as the Scapegoat, Obama has less obstacles.

You sound like your working for "Organizing for America".

Complicated presidency, no more so than anyone else.

Pelosi out of power, Pelosi and Obama were a team, Obama had a majority in the Senate and the House, Pelosi was an obstacle.

So there it is folks, right here in this thread, its time to lie and spread more propaganda, Obama has learned from Iran's actions, not that Obama could of or should of learned anything in the last thirty years being always polically active. What has Obama learned about Iran, was Obama so naive about Iran entering office now he has had an epiphany?

Obama should of knew who Iran was, and Obama did, to state Obama is learning on the job, on how to mold foreign policy around Iran shows the inexpereince and the lack of ability on Obama's part.

Obama is allowing Iran to build Nuclear Weapons, Obama is allowing Iran to build Nuclear Weapons, Obama is allowing Iran to build Nuclear Weapons.

This is a really, really sharp analysis, and the idea that this poster may be a liberal operative posing as a moderate republican struck me also. Being in the arts and sciences, I cannot help but have liberal friends, so i know what moderation is about, but this just rings like a phony bullshit scam. I know how liberals and moderate conservatives sound, and know moderation myself as the way the world operates. But statements like, "I think he is learning" and "I didn't like him at first but I think he's getting better" sound like the careful, considered script of a telemarketer, and sounds just as artificial.

I agree. Not buying it. Not for a second. Obama is so polarizing that liberals now either love him because he isn't conservative or hate him because they feel he's too moderate, and everyone else - all GOP and most independents - abandoned him long ago.. The topic poster's supposed experience runs in opposition to all evidence in Obama's favor, while sounding artificially sympathetic to his critics.

A plant.[/QUOT

why can't he improve, haven't you ?

 

[Wicked Jester]

i tried hard to like him at first, but i couldn't get past the condescention or his policy.
now (all of the sudden) i like him more. i think his interface with iran (this time) is spot on, his comments timely and appropriate.
so that's a big thing. i think he learned from iran's june 09 revolt, and he is getting a second chance, i hope iran becomes free.
overall, i think he is changing with the job, so he may turn out to be a pretty good president. whether christie runs or not, he will hold the president to a high standard of logic and pragmatism, in the upcoming election

Hmm.
Economic policy--fail.
Foreign policy--fail.
Budget--fail.

He has learned nothing. The rhetoric on anything does not match the action. He is a world-class incompetent way over his head, surrounded by equal incompetents.

True that......The man is so weak he sits back and allows China to lecture us and tell us how to run our affairs.........Besides Carter, there is no president in the last fifty years who would have sat back and just taken that shit without telling them to shove it up their asses. No way in hell you would have seen JFK, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, REAGAN, GHW Bush, Clinton, and GW Bush sit back and take that shit.

The man is weak. The man is an embarrassment.

 

[GStarz]

Sure, you love Obama, he is doing so wonderful, and now that you can use Pelosi as the Scapegoat, Obama has less obstacles.

You sound like your working for "Organizing for America".

Complicated presidency, no more so than anyone else.

Pelosi out of power, Pelosi and Obama were a team, Obama had a majority in the Senate and the House, Pelosi was an obstacle.

So there it is folks, right here in this thread, its time to lie and spread more propaganda, Obama has learned from Iran's actions, not that Obama could of or should of learned anything in the last thirty years being always polically active. What has Obama learned about Iran, was Obama so naive about Iran entering office now he has had an epiphany?

Obama should of knew who Iran was, and Obama did, to state Obama is learning on the job, on how to mold foreign policy around Iran shows the inexpereince and the lack of ability on Obama's part.

Obama is allowing Iran to build Nuclear Weapons, Obama is allowing Iran to build Nuclear Weapons, Obama is allowing Iran to build Nuclear Weapons.

This is a really, really sharp analysis, and the idea that this poster may be a liberal operative posing as a moderate republican struck me also. Being in the arts and sciences, I cannot help but have liberal friends, so i know what moderation is about, but this just rings like a phony bullshit scam. I know how liberals and moderate conservatives sound, and know moderation myself as the way the world operates. But statements like, "I think he is learning" and "I didn't like him at first but I think he's getting better" sound like the careful, considered script of a telemarketer, and sounds just as artificial.

I agree. Not buying it. Not for a second. Obama is so polarizing that liberals now either love him because he isn't conservative or hate him because they feel he's too moderate, and everyone else - all GOP and most independents - abandoned him long ago.. The topic poster's supposed experience runs in opposition to all evidence in Obama's favor, while sounding artificially sympathetic to his critics.

A plant.[/QUOT

why can't he imorove, haven't you ?

There is a difference between improving and pretending to improve. His initial choices were not derived from his considerable inexperience, but clearly from his ideology, which will never change because he's too deep and committed. If honest change of ideology was what this was about, then like most people driven by conscience, he'd make a public statement about it. His change coincidentally happening after the full results of last November's elections are being felt, has every pundit in DC talking about Bill Clinton moving to the right after the beating he took in congress in '94. This is no secret. Everyone knows this is strategy, not a timid little fellow like a child learning his way through his messy diapers.

Obama is a communist, will always be a communist unless he publicly recants and this is just phony posturing. If he was even remotely honest, he'd release his citizenship records instead of acting like a guilty, paranoid freak by fighting lawsuits so as to ensure they stay hidden, even though now even liberal outlets like Hardball and Mother Jones News and HuffPo are telling him enough is enough and now is the time to put up or shut up.

Obama's a smarmy, swaggering, street-punk con artist right off the sidewalks of Chicago's communist underground, and if you believe his bullshit, my sympathy is not for him, it's for you, because you're acting like a sucker and an easy mark. If that's the case, I'd like to sell you a bridge.

 

[washamericom]

This is a really, really sharp analysis, and the idea that this poster may be a liberal operative posing as a moderate republican struck me also. Being in the arts and sciences, I cannot help but have liberal friends, so i know what moderation is about, but this just rings like a phony bullshit scam. I know how liberals and moderate conservatives sound, and know moderation myself as the way the world operates. But statements like, "I think he is learning" and "I didn't like him at first but I think he's getting better" sound like the careful, considered script of a telemarketer, and sounds just as artificial.

I agree. Not buying it. Not for a second. Obama is so polarizing that liberals now either love him because he isn't conservative or hate him because they feel he's too moderate, and everyone else - all GOP and most independents - abandoned him long ago.. The topic poster's supposed experience runs in opposition to all evidence in Obama's favor, while sounding artificially sympathetic to his critics.

A plant.[/QUOT

why can't he imorove, haven't you ?

There is a difference between improving and pretending to improve. His initial choices were not derived from his considerable inexperience, but clearly from his ideology, which will never change because he's too deep and committed. If honest change of ideology was what this was about, then like most people driven by conscience, he'd make a public statement about it. His change coincidentally happening after the full results of last November's elections are being felt, has every pundit in DC talking about Bill Clinton moving to the right after the beating he took in congress in '94. This is no secret. Everyone knows this is strategy, not a timid little fellow like a child learning his way through his messy diapers.

Obama is a communist, will always be a communist unless he publicly recants and this is just phony posturing. If he was even remotely honest, he'd release his citizenship records instead of acting like a guilty, paranoid freak by fighting lawsuits so as to ensure they stay hidden, even though now even liberal outlets like Hardball and Mother Jones News and HuffPo are telling him enough is enough and now is the time to put up or shut up.

Obama's a smarmy, swaggering, street-punk con artist right off the sidewalks of Chicago's communist underground, and if you believe his bullshit, my sympathy is not for him, it's for you, because you're acting like a sucker and an easy mark. If that's the case, I'd like to sell you a bridge.

i've been looking around for a used bridge.

 

[GStarz]

There is a difference between improving and pretending to improve. His initial choices were not derived from his considerable inexperience, but clearly from his ideology, which will never change because he's too deep and committed. If honest change of ideology was what this was about, then like most people driven by conscience, he'd make a public statement about it. His change coincidentally happening after the full results of last November's elections are being felt, has every pundit in DC talking about Bill Clinton moving to the right after the beating he took in congress in '94. This is no secret. Everyone knows this is strategy, not a timid little fellow like a child learning his way through his messy diapers.

Obama is a communist, will always be a communist unless he publicly recants and this is just phony posturing. If he was even remotely honest, he'd release his citizenship records instead of acting like a guilty, paranoid freak by fighting lawsuits so as to ensure they stay hidden, even though now even liberal outlets like Hardball and Mother Jones News and HuffPo are telling him enough is enough and now is the time to put up or shut up.

Obama's a smarmy, swaggering, street-punk con artist right off the sidewalks of Chicago's communist underground, and if you believe his bullshit, my sympathy is not for him, it's for you, because you're acting like a sucker and an easy mark. If that's the case, I'd like to sell you a bridge.

i've been looking around for a used bridge.

Sorry to hear it.

 

[washamericom]

i've been looking around for a used bridge.

Sorry to hear it.

TAKE IT EASY I'M ON YOUR SIDE, MAYBE YOU CAN ANSWER A QUESTION FOR ME. WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH OBAMA'S MOTHER HAVING TO BE A TEN YEAR RESIDENT mandatory FIVE AFTER AGE 16. any truth to that ?

 

[Charles_Main]

i tried hard to like him at first, but i couldn't get past the condescention or his policy.
now (all of the sudden) i like him more. i think his interface with iran (this time) is spot on, his comments timely and appropriate.
so that's a big thing. i think he learned from iran's june 09 revolt, and he is getting a second chance, i hope iran becomes free.
overall, i think he is changing with the job, so he may turn out to be a pretty good president. whether christie runs or not, he will hold the president to a high standard of logic and pragmatism, in the upcoming election
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0DaWSMZnEQ

Yeah, I might give him some credit for this one. If he had not just so Horrible Blundered responding to the Crisis in Egypt.

 

[washamericom]

i tried hard to like him at first, but i couldn't get past the condescention or his policy.
now (all of the sudden) i like him more. i think his interface with iran (this time) is spot on, his comments timely and appropriate.
so that's a big thing. i think he learned from iran's june 09 revolt, and he is getting a second chance, i hope iran becomes free.
overall, i think he is changing with the job, so he may turn out to be a pretty good president. whether christie runs or not, he will hold the president to a high standard of logic and pragmatism, in the upcoming election
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0DaWSMZnEQ

Yeah, I might give him some credit for this one. If he had not just so Horrible Blundered responding to the Crisis in Egypt.

in the instance of egypt i think he did well to ride the fence for awhile, but it worked out, giving so much momentum to the rest of the middle east. the people and the military and us. egypt was sort of "feel your way". i'm not typical in my thinking, as a rural conservative.

 

[Charles_Main]

i tried hard to like him at first, but i couldn't get past the condescention or his policy.
now (all of the sudden) i like him more. i think his interface with iran (this time) is spot on, his comments timely and appropriate.
so that's a big thing. i think he learned from iran's june 09 revolt, and he is getting a second chance, i hope iran becomes free.
overall, i think he is changing with the job, so he may turn out to be a pretty good president. whether christie runs or not, he will hold the president to a high standard of logic and pragmatism, in the upcoming election
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0DaWSMZnEQ

Yeah, I might give him some credit for this one. If he had not just so Horrible Blundered responding to the Crisis in Egypt.

in the instance of egypt i think he did well to ride the fence for awhile, but it worked out, giving so much momentum to the rest of the middle east. the people and the military and us. egypt was sort of "feel your way". i'm not typical in my thinking, as a rural conservative.

Ride the Fence? The first week he basically came out in support of Mubarak, then when it became clear Mubarak was done all of the sudden he was with the People.

Now he has his people out there trying to credit him with the Fall of Mubarak.

Horrible. IMO

Did anyone else see the CNN man on the street interviews over there. Now that was good for a laugh. They asked 4 people what they thought of Obama coming out in support of them. All 4 said basically the same thing. Last week he was with Mubarak. This was our Revolution, Obama had nothing to do with it.

The comical part came when the Reporter after having 4 answers that did not confirm his Idea. Ended the report by saying "there you have it, the feeling on the street here, is they are grateful for Obama's support."

Funny because that is not at all what the people he interviewed had to say.

Leave it to CNN to not let the fact get in the way of a story.

 

[washamericom]

u need to work on your diplomacy

 

[GStarz]

Sorry to hear it.

TAKE IT EASY I'M ON YOUR SIDE, MAYBE YOU CAN ANSWER A QUESTION FOR ME. WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH OBAMA'S MOTHER HAVING TO BE A TEN YEAR RESIDENT mandatory FIVE AFTER AGE 16. any truth to that ?

Honestly, I have trouble believing you are on my side. Obama is as bad as he's ever been except for some slight moderation which appears to be all about appearance. Why doesn't he side with the GOP on tax cuts so the government won;t be shut down? Or a million other things which have been detailed endlessly.

On your question:

It appears Obama's mother may have failed to meet a residency requirement, but i've been debating constitutional law and nuances for 3 years on this now and you know what? I'm sick of it. All because Obama is so sick and twisted and perverted and fucked up that he like to play games with people's heads by hiding his records? And that's a best case scenario!

At this point I'm only interested in keeping the pressure on so the states that are putting forth legislation that will demand Obama release his records or fail to get on their ballots don't lose their nerve.

Our president is the biggest creep ever to have stained our White House with the soles of his shoes bought with the blood money of guys like Bill Ayres - because Ayres started Obama's career in his home.

You're on my side? Fine. Start demanding Obama stop acting like a guilty, paranoid freak about his background. Then I'll know you mean the rest of it. You don;t need to know constitutional law to do what even some liberals are doing now - demand Obama release his records and end the big mystery. You don;t need to know a thing except that he's hiding his past. No need to speculate why - the truth is better than speculation and only Obama can provide that truth. You could do that, right now, yes? Or are you simply afraid of being mocked, because if you are, remember the hundreds of thousands of very young American men who died face down in the sand filled with their own blood, calling out for their mothers because they were often teenagers who had not yet known the love of any other woman. Then tell me you're squeamish about liberals calling you names. This goes for ANY conservative who is afraid of the issue because of mockery. Some things must transcend even popular politics, and constitutional law is one of them. We need to know if Obama is just fucking around or if he is really ruining the country without the constitutional authority to do so. It seems impossible to think that anyone with half a brain couldn't get that one in a heartbeat.

 

[washamericom]

slow down, you can get the message across without being agressive, why can't this be resolved.? if it were all true wouldn't it be the greatest scandal in american history?

 

[GStarz]

slow down, you can get the message across without being agressive, why can't this be resolved.? if it were all true wouldn't it be the greatest scandal in american history?

Your question was a very short one with a very long answer. Here it is.

Just because something is unthinkable doesn't mean it can't happen: President Bill Clinton as president lied before a grand jury when, among other occasions, he said he never had sex with Monica Lewinski. In protecting her husband - and her own power base - Hillary ultimately humiliated herself by blaming it on the "birthers' of that decade: the "vast right wing conspiracy" (humiliated because they were right). And how did the truth come out and force Clinton to humiliate the nation on prime time TV by admitting the affair? It turns out Lewinski, another epic fail liberal democrat, actually saved Clinton's evil sperm splashes on her blue dress as a "memento". Bill Clinton lied on the assumption she would have had the dress cleaned, never dreaming she carefully preserved his questionable DNA. Result? Clinton has no more law license forever and if he had any shame he'd be disgraced for dragging his lover's name through the mud. So would the rest of the democrats, but shame never stopped the democrats from electing Robert Byrd to democrat chairmanships in congress, even though he had not just been a KKK member, but for many years a KKK officer! (look it up)

Here's a short list of the facts (there are many more that weigh against Obama), and to hell with the liberals who deny it because if they try to spin my facts anymore I'm going to take that video of Obama's long-time friend Bernadine Dorn taking credit for bombings and murder in the 1970's and make it my avatar.

fact: Obama is fighting lawsuits to keep from disclosing his citizenship records. This is public record fact, even liberals acknowledge it.

fact: what Obama posted online is not what Hawaii uses as it's only birth form, because Hawaii has already stated that they have and have seen Obama’s long form birth certificate.

fact; here is the list of records cited in lawsuits for which Obama - on the public dime - has fought disclosure - provided, of course, they exist at all:

Missing Records:

Occidental College records

Columbia College records

Columbia Thesis paper

Harvard College records

Selective Service Registration

Medical records

Illinois State Senate records

Illinois State Senate schedule

Law practice client list

A Certified Copy of his original Birth certificate (Hawaiian health officials say they have seen it, others say it doesn’t exist, Obama won’t release it if it does exist)

Embossed, signed paper Certification of Live Birth

Harvard Law Review articles that were published

University of Chicago scholarly articles

Record of baptism

fact: Governor Abercrombie of Hawaii, a hard-core self-admitted socialist, publicly announced that he would find it and make the birth records available, even though, being an Obama family friend, he could have asked Obama for it. Abercrombie later sheepishly stated through a spokesperson that he was not allowed to disclose the records.

fact: (though he later unsuccessfully tried to recant, but the cat was out of the bag) Abercrombie friend and Hollywood journalist Mike Evans said in not one but a couple of radio interviews that Abercrombie told him that there was no birth certificate for Obama in Hawaii. Abercrombie to this day has refused further comment.

fact: Obama's father was a British national as admitted by Obama - a fact that may (likely does but as yet not entirely determined) compromise his natural born status down to native born status, thus making him ineligible to hold the office.

fact: Obama was brought up in communist Indonesia, and may have lost his natural born citizenship status when his mother moved him there. It is generally understood that once natural born status is lost it cannot be re-instated.

fact: Obama had his name changed to Barry Soetoro when his mother married his stepfather. There are no records that he ever had it legally changed back.

fact; (I never thought he might have ever been actually born outside of the US, and that his citizenship status was a birthright technicality because his father was a British national until) Michelle Obama said Kenya was Obama's home country (the youtube videos are famous, now - it's her and she's saying it)

fact: 11 states have responded to the probable cause that Obama's behavior has generated by initiating legislation demanding any candidates long form birth certificate. It appears that several are virtually certain to pass. Just one creates a stumbling block for Obama: a PR stumbling block if he doesn't need the state to win, a gigantic stumbling block to re-election if he does.

fact: even some liberals have called for Obama to release his records. Chris Matthews of course, but on his primetime Hardball show, he also convinced his two liberal guests to agree that it's in Obama's best interests to disclose the records. Huffington post had a great editorial saying those who want to quiet the issue are weirder than those who pursue it, because the question is legit. NYC uber-radio host Lynn Samuels definitely thinks Obama is "lying" about his citizenship.

There is more, but that should suffice - that's already a lot to absorb if you aren't up to speed on the issue.

Many of these taken alone amount to nothing, no question. Some liberals blindly devoted to Obama on partisan grounds say that it takes a conspiratorial mind to put them all together into something significant, which doesn’t pass the sniff test, of course. Other better-placed and more politically accomplished liberals than those people, like Matthews, Huffington post, Samuels and Mother Jones News as well as the majority of polled Americans in the aggregate of the polls say something smells fishy. Hence the new coming laws in 11 states. (this would not have happened if not for the birthers – the “vast right wing conspiracy” of our time, who are likely to be proven right, just as the original ‘vast right wing conspiracy” was proved right. Liberals admit Clinton lied, but are loath to admit that his mocked critics had the story straight from the get-go)

Like Clinton's affair before Lewenski's sperm-covered blue dress, it isn't a scandal - yet. But if it is a scandal there is no middle ground in this instance - it'll be the biggest presidential scandal in US history: a Marxist sympathizer (his past by his own admission makes it clear) who took control of the presidency of the united states illegally and therefore without the authority to appoint judges and sign laws into being or negotiate for the united states, yet doing all of that regardless. And it isn't like Obama didn't know what he was doing - he claims to be constitutional law professor. So if he did it, he did it knowingly.

So you see why millions of people are taking this very seriously. Most have been mocked into submission. A few of us don’t care about mockery and stay focused on fact. Just like the legislators in 11 states (so far) whose certain actions are setting the state for what may turn out to be the biggest political scandal drama in united states history. Clinton, Nixon, nothing will compare.

If Obama does not have the records, this is huge. bigger than anything political the US has ever seen. that's probably why the media has stayed silent - they know the ramifications. But brave souls are sick and tired and know the US can handle this easily, even if it's the biggest show on earth. Once again, hence the upcoming new laws. And some liberal journalists, like Matthews, have clearly put their fingers to the wind and decided to get out in front of the story, because when it breaks, it won't be pretty for liberals on the wrong side of it. And of course, the democrat party - especially the entrenched elite - will be an untrusted political train wreck for years to come. It will make what Nixon did to the republicans look like less than nothing.

Take your time and absorb it all slowly. That answer it for you?

Dismiss the liberals calling it all “racist lies’ – you’re smart enough of course to google the info for yourself. It will take time to slog through the garbage and get to the facts. World Net daily, a highly right-wing news source, does qualify its sources online, and they do have a reserved seat at all white house news briefings – something no one who will attack this post has.

Ultimately the new state laws will tell the tale, like Monica Lewinski’s notorious blue dress. And it if Obama doesn't have the records, it'll be many, many times more dramatic. It will be the biggest political scandal in US history. Nothing will compare.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Obama doesn't do anythng that he doesn't see as a political advantage for him. Last time it was "The Islamic Republic of Iran" now he acts as if he sides with the anti Islamic government protesters in Iran.. Too little too late, he's a weak joke.

Yeah.....why couldn't he be more of a Man, and start two Wars....like Lil' Dumbya....right??

"The Dodd-Frank Wall Street reforms of 2010 gave the U.S. government a weapon to slay the "too big to fail" monster at the core of 2008's financial turmoil, but wielding it will take some courage.

The orderly liquidation provision of the Dodd-Frank law empowers regulators to seize a large financial firm that is headed for disaster and dismantle it in a way that is less disruptive than either taxpayer bailouts or bankruptcy.

The trouble is that the markets, and many left- and right-wing critics of Dodd-Frank, just do not believe that orderly liquidation will ever be invoked, and even if it is, its detractors say that it will not work as intended.

As a result, more than two years after they were bailed out by taxpayers, the largest U.S. banking firms are back, spinning profits and once again enjoying a cost-of-capital advantage because they are viewed as too big to fail.

Yet, orderly liquidation is the law of the land and its proponents insist that if the circumstances arise, it will work, and it will end taxpayer bailouts, and it will show that no financial institution is too big to fail.

"People are saying we won't have the guts" to invoke orderly liquidation, acknowledged Democratic Representative Barney Frank, co-author of the reforms, in an interview.

"Well, we had the guts with regard to the TARP to get the money back. We got it back," he said, referring to the $700-billion Troubled Asset Relief Program bailouts that went to Wall Street firms and have been largely repaid.

"I don't have any question that we're going to go through with it" Frank said regarding orderly liquidation. "That's the death panel," he said, reprising the colorful rhetoric he employed during the intense Dodd-Frank debate."

"too big to fail"

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Wall Street Reform​

 

[Charles_Main]

I am the reverse. I liked him while he ran for office and gave him the benefit of the doubts I tried to ignore. But now? I am not impressed. I don't think he is a bad person. I just don't think he was prepared...and still isn't.

I feel exactly the same way. I liked him much more as a candidate. I wanted to believe he meant what he said about Bipartisanship and moving beyond the one sided rhetoric.

Now since he has been in office, save for a few exceptions, nearly everything he has done and said. Has made me like and respect him less and less.

As far as his Foreign Policy and handling of the things happening around the world. That is where I give him the lowest grade. People said he was a babe in the woods when it came to these issues, I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt, but now that has become impossible. He is clearly completely out of his depths, and as no idea what he is doing. Unlike JFK he also appears unable to grow into the job.

He is sending a message to the entire world, that he is an indecisive and soft idiot.