I Hate Trump, But I Don't See Myself Voting Biden Either

He's been on the wrong side of just about any wrong-doing or wrong vote in Congress... and let's be honest, being a Vice-President doesn't exactly mean much anymore. I think the last VP that mattered was George H.W. Bush. If Al Gore hadn't jumped the shark so many times... he might have meant something despite being a Democrat.

If the Democrats put Biden up as the candidate, he may win but in the long run I think it will only hurt the Democratic base. Not only will Biden's past hurt them, but he undoubtedly be a one-term President which isn't long enough to actually pass meaningful legislation. The only benefit of Biden over Trump would be him naming a replacement for Ginsburg and keeping the Supreme Court fairly even. Things will be even closer to even if Biden would be able to pick Clarence Thomas's replacement when he retires.

I'd vote for almost any Republican candidate over Trump... so far however it seems only one is willing to run and the Republican Party has already said they are supporting Trump and will not help fund any other candidates.

Solution: vote Trump for Potus and Democrats for Congress.

He'll get impeached if he wins and you'll have Pence as POTUS.

But he would more than likely be President for a good 3 years out of the 4 before anything would be done. Then you get Pence for a year...
 
He's been on the wrong side of just about any wrong-doing or wrong vote in Congress... and let's be honest, being a Vice-President doesn't exactly mean much anymore. I think the last VP that mattered was George H.W. Bush. If Al Gore hadn't jumped the shark so many times... he might have meant something despite being a Democrat.

If the Democrats put Biden up as the candidate, he may win but in the long run I think it will only hurt the Democratic base. Not only will Biden's past hurt them, but he undoubtedly be a one-term President which isn't long enough to actually pass meaningful legislation. The only benefit of Biden over Trump would be him naming a replacement for Ginsburg and keeping the Supreme Court fairly even. Things will be even closer to even if Biden would be able to pick Clarence Thomas's replacement when he retires.

I'd vote for almost any Republican candidate over Trump... so far however it seems only one is willing to run and the Republican Party has already said they are supporting Trump and will not help fund any other candidates.

Solution: vote Trump for Potus and Democrats for Congress.

He'll get impeached if he wins and you'll have Pence as POTUS.

But he would more than likely be President for a good 3 years out of the 4 before anything would be done. Then you get Pence for a year...

With a Democrat House and Senate plus Mueller report in hand I'd think the process would be very much expedited.
 
He's been on the wrong side of just about any wrong-doing or wrong vote in Congress... and let's be honest, being a Vice-President doesn't exactly mean much anymore. I think the last VP that mattered was George H.W. Bush. If Al Gore hadn't jumped the shark so many times... he might have meant something despite being a Democrat.

If the Democrats put Biden up as the candidate, he may win but in the long run I think it will only hurt the Democratic base. Not only will Biden's past hurt them, but he undoubtedly be a one-term President which isn't long enough to actually pass meaningful legislation. The only benefit of Biden over Trump would be him naming a replacement for Ginsburg and keeping the Supreme Court fairly even. Things will be even closer to even if Biden would be able to pick Clarence Thomas's replacement when he retires.

I'd vote for almost any Republican candidate over Trump... so far however it seems only one is willing to run and the Republican Party has already said they are supporting Trump and will not help fund any other candidates.

Solution: vote Trump for Potus and Democrats for Congress.

He'll get impeached if he wins and you'll have Pence as POTUS.

But he would more than likely be President for a good 3 years out of the 4 before anything would be done. Then you get Pence for a year...

With a Democrat House and Senate plus Mueller report in hand I'd think the process would be very much expedited.


Welcome to #4 on the list. You are truly a sick person.
 
He's been on the wrong side of just about any wrong-doing or wrong vote in Congress... and let's be honest, being a Vice-President doesn't exactly mean much anymore. I think the last VP that mattered was George H.W. Bush. If Al Gore hadn't jumped the shark so many times... he might have meant something despite being a Democrat.

If the Democrats put Biden up as the candidate, he may win but in the long run I think it will only hurt the Democratic base. Not only will Biden's past hurt them, but he undoubtedly be a one-term President which isn't long enough to actually pass meaningful legislation. The only benefit of Biden over Trump would be him naming a replacement for Ginsburg and keeping the Supreme Court fairly even. Things will be even closer to even if Biden would be able to pick Clarence Thomas's replacement when he retires.

I'd vote for almost any Republican candidate over Trump... so far however it seems only one is willing to run and the Republican Party has already said they are supporting Trump and will not help fund any other candidates.
Just write in Maxine! The face of the Democratic party!
 
He's been on the wrong side of just about any wrong-doing or wrong vote in Congress... and let's be honest, being a Vice-President doesn't exactly mean much anymore. I think the last VP that mattered was George H.W. Bush. If Al Gore hadn't jumped the shark so many times... he might have meant something despite being a Democrat.

If the Democrats put Biden up as the candidate, he may win but in the long run I think it will only hurt the Democratic base. Not only will Biden's past hurt them, but he undoubtedly be a one-term President which isn't long enough to actually pass meaningful legislation. The only benefit of Biden over Trump would be him naming a replacement for Ginsburg and keeping the Supreme Court fairly even. Things will be even closer to even if Biden would be able to pick Clarence Thomas's replacement when he retires.

I'd vote for almost any Republican candidate over Trump... so far however it seems only one is willing to run and the Republican Party has already said they are supporting Trump and will not help fund any other candidates.

Solution: vote Trump for Potus and Democrats for Congress.

He'll get impeached if he wins and you'll have Pence as POTUS.

But he would more than likely be President for a good 3 years out of the 4 before anything would be done. Then you get Pence for a year...

With a Democrat House and Senate plus Mueller report in hand I'd think the process would be very much expedited.


Welcome to #4 on the list. You are truly a sick person.

Whatever you say retard.
 
Honey, I have many friends in the field. I also read the actual research.
The only ‘science’ saying anything supporting it, is first- manipulated, then second has all sorts of caveat’s added to it, which no one reports on.
No it’s man absolutely affects the rate of change. That is proven.
Of the actual change that has occurred, what percentage is directly due to Man's activities?

They can't tell you what % of whatever change they claim is due to man. Also, the years they measure are a blink of an eye compared to history. Temperature naturally and normally goes up and down over decades, and millennia.

They also can't tell you what the tax dollars, and fees, fines, and additional costs due to cap and trade will go and how the money will "fix" man's influence on climate.

They also say the science is settled and the debate is over just to shut YOU up. Why? Who would do that unless they are hiding the truth.

HOAX and SCAM.
See now you’re moving away from what the science says and going about what the activists say. That’s not an honest argument. I gave my source and why I believe the science. What’s yours?
You’re just making shit up! How in the world would you even know that? You couldn’t.

I know a climate scientist. Somebody who spent years in the field gathering and analyzing data about the subject. What do you have? Some right wing news articles and trump tweets?
 
Well if Biden is the best the Dems can field then that party is in deep shit.

I just can't believe there isn't one sane, reliable Dem who could run for POTUS.

The clown car they have right now is full of crazies.

Crazies who along with the Dem lead House are paving the way to a Trump win in 2020.

Should be one laughable run to the White House.
 
Well if Biden is the best the Dems can field then that party is in deep shit.

I just can't believe there isn't one sane, reliable Dem who could run for POTUS.

The clown car they have right now is full of crazies.

Crazies who along with the Dem lead House are paving the way to a Trump win in 2020.

Should be one laughable run to the White House.

The MEDIA is a formidable FOE, and will back whomever they think can beat Trump. Right now, that is Biden. They will demonize Trump, and promote the Democrat nominee. Trump won't have an easy road.
 
Will enough people vote for a moderate?

There's no such thing as a "moderate" anymore...lines are drawn...we'll either go communist or start hanging communists (preferred). The "independents" are either too stupid or lazy to choose a side...they vote on last-minute impulses inside the booth....That's why Trump will be reelected...it's hard to imagine a WH without him in it....even people who hate him secretly admire him.
 
Well if Biden is the best the Dems can field then that party is in deep shit.

I just can't believe there isn't one sane, reliable Dem who could run for POTUS.

The clown car they have right now is full of crazies.

Crazies who along with the Dem lead House are paving the way to a Trump win in 2020.

Should be one laughable run to the White House.

The MEDIA is a formidable FOE, and will back whomever they think can beat Trump. Right now, that is Biden. They will demonize Trump, and promote the Democrat nominee. Trump won't have an easy road.

They already did that in 2016 and also said Hitlery would be the next POTUS.

Surprise. They were wrong then and will be wrong in 2020.

The left is doing its best to get Trump elected in 2020.

God bless them every one. LOL
 
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You can still write in Hillary.
 
Honey, I have many friends in the field. I also read the actual research.
The only ‘science’ saying anything supporting it, is first- manipulated, then second has all sorts of caveat’s added to it, which no one reports on.
Of the actual change that has occurred, what percentage is directly due to Man's activities?

They can't tell you what % of whatever change they claim is due to man. Also, the years they measure are a blink of an eye compared to history. Temperature naturally and normally goes up and down over decades, and millennia.

They also can't tell you what the tax dollars, and fees, fines, and additional costs due to cap and trade will go and how the money will "fix" man's influence on climate.

They also say the science is settled and the debate is over just to shut YOU up. Why? Who would do that unless they are hiding the truth.

HOAX and SCAM.
See now you’re moving away from what the science says and going about what the activists say. That’s not an honest argument. I gave my source and why I believe the science. What’s yours?
You’re just making shit up! How in the world would you even know that? You couldn’t.

I know a climate scientist. Somebody who spent years in the field gathering and analyzing data about the subject. What do you have? Some right wing news articles and trump tweets?
And...
 
He's been on the wrong side of just about any wrong-doing or wrong vote in Congress... and let's be honest, being a Vice-President doesn't exactly mean much anymore. I think the last VP that mattered was George H.W. Bush. If Al Gore hadn't jumped the shark so many times... he might have meant something despite being a Democrat.

If the Democrats put Biden up as the candidate, he may win but in the long run I think it will only hurt the Democratic base. Not only will Biden's past hurt them, but he undoubtedly be a one-term President which isn't long enough to actually pass meaningful legislation. The only benefit of Biden over Trump would be him naming a replacement for Ginsburg and keeping the Supreme Court fairly even. Things will be even closer to even if Biden would be able to pick Clarence Thomas's replacement when he retires.

I'd vote for almost any Republican candidate over Trump... so far however it seems only one is willing to run and the Republican Party has already said they are supporting Trump and will not help fund any other candidates.



I don't want to vote for Biden either. I agree, he has been on the wrong side of a lot of issues. Plus the man is old. We already have an old geezer as president. We don't need another one. We need someone who is younger, who can do 2 terms and actually have his own views instead of just repeating what he thinks people want to hear.

However, if Biden is the nominee for democrats, I'll vote for Biden over trump any day.

Bill Weld is running as a challenger to trump in the Republican Party but we both know he won't get the nomination. Which is too bad.

I'm going to put the nation, constitution and future generations first. For the second time in my life, I don't care who the democrats nominate. I will hold my nose and vote for that democrat. I won't vote third party this time. It's more important to me to get this communist puppet criminal out of our White House and government.
 
He's been on the wrong side of just about any wrong-doing or wrong vote in Congress... and let's be honest, being a Vice-President doesn't exactly mean much anymore. I think the last VP that mattered was George H.W. Bush. If Al Gore hadn't jumped the shark so many times... he might have meant something despite being a Democrat.

If the Democrats put Biden up as the candidate, he may win but in the long run I think it will only hurt the Democratic base. Not only will Biden's past hurt them, but he undoubtedly be a one-term President which isn't long enough to actually pass meaningful legislation. The only benefit of Biden over Trump would be him naming a replacement for Ginsburg and keeping the Supreme Court fairly even. Things will be even closer to even if Biden would be able to pick Clarence Thomas's replacement when he retires.

I'd vote for almost any Republican candidate over Trump... so far however it seems only one is willing to run and the Republican Party has already said they are supporting Trump and will not help fund any other candidates.



I don't want to vote for Biden either. I agree, he has been on the wrong side of a lot of issues. Plus the man is old. We already have an old geezer as president. We don't need another one. We need someone who is younger, who can do 2 terms and actually have his own views instead of just repeating what he thinks people want to hear.

However, if Biden is the nominee for democrats, I'll vote for Biden over trump any day.

Bill Weld is running as a challenger to trump in the Republican Party but we both know he won't get the nomination. Which is too bad.

I'm going to put the nation, constitution and future generations first. For the second time in my life, I don't care who the democrats nominate. I will hold my nose and vote for that democrat. I won't vote third party this time. It's more important to me to get this communist puppet criminal out of our White House and government.


Yep no way Weld can win because he is only known in his home state of Maryland, and he won't get very much money to campaign, as the Republican party has already said that as long as Trump runs, he's their candidate and all of the money will go to him.
 
He's been on the wrong side of just about any wrong-doing or wrong vote in Congress... and let's be honest, being a Vice-President doesn't exactly mean much anymore. I think the last VP that mattered was George H.W. Bush. If Al Gore hadn't jumped the shark so many times... he might have meant something despite being a Democrat.

If the Democrats put Biden up as the candidate, he may win but in the long run I think it will only hurt the Democratic base. Not only will Biden's past hurt them, but he undoubtedly be a one-term President which isn't long enough to actually pass meaningful legislation. The only benefit of Biden over Trump would be him naming a replacement for Ginsburg and keeping the Supreme Court fairly even. Things will be even closer to even if Biden would be able to pick Clarence Thomas's replacement when he retires.

I'd vote for almost any Republican candidate over Trump... so far however it seems only one is willing to run and the Republican Party has already said they are supporting Trump and will not help fund any other candidates.
Biden has the opportunity to do something very important. Dampen the partisan division and bring some unity to our government. He has the relationships and moderate attitude to do this. Yes it will piss off both bases but it is so needed, something needs to change or we are headed towards a new era civil war.

Biden is not the unity candidate, he's the old guard candidate. The supposed "union" guy, who won't let the union guys work. No pipelines, no manufacturing, no drilling for oil or gas. Besides, I bet he will not even get the dem nomination. We'll see after the Super-Tuesday primary and who wins the CA delegates. The old dems will split between Biden and the rest, the young dems will split their votes over 10 names, then when their guy/gal loses they will be dejected and stay home on election day.
There is no "new era of civil war", its a continuation of the Bush-43 hatred, remember "chimp"? Remember hating Cheney? Trump is just the next GOP president that the socialists can't beat, so they whine about him constantly.
The civil war going on in the DEM party right now is going to bleed the nominee white.
No fucking money b/c the donors 'procast' it all away. Hated by the losing candidates and their supporters.
Anyone who believes when Bernie gets the shaft.......again........ his supporters are going to vote for whoever shafted Bernie is fucking delusional.
Everyone of the dozens of candidates running is another Ralph Nader/Jill Stein.
They are all getting a small slice of the donor pie. They last candidate standing is going to be looking at pie plate with only a few crumbs remaining.
HRC pissed away 1.2 BILLION donor dollars.
 
He's been on the wrong side of just about any wrong-doing or wrong vote in Congress... and let's be honest, being a Vice-President doesn't exactly mean much anymore. I think the last VP that mattered was George H.W. Bush. If Al Gore hadn't jumped the shark so many times... he might have meant something despite being a Democrat.

If the Democrats put Biden up as the candidate, he may win but in the long run I think it will only hurt the Democratic base. Not only will Biden's past hurt them, but he undoubtedly be a one-term President which isn't long enough to actually pass meaningful legislation. The only benefit of Biden over Trump would be him naming a replacement for Ginsburg and keeping the Supreme Court fairly even. Things will be even closer to even if Biden would be able to pick Clarence Thomas's replacement when he retires.

I'd vote for almost any Republican candidate over Trump... so far however it seems only one is willing to run and the Republican Party has already said they are supporting Trump and will not help fund any other candidates.
Biden has the opportunity to do something very important. Dampen the partisan division and bring some unity to our government. He has the relationships and moderate attitude to do this. Yes it will piss off both bases but it is so needed, something needs to change or we are headed towards a new era civil war.
Will enough people vote for a moderate?
The primaries are going to be the tough spot. In the general election a moderate is golden this time around. Independents want one, the left will rally support plus the conservative anti trumpers will vote that way. Should be a landslide
Biden is falling among D primary voters and I suspect Sanders will beat him like a drum.
I can't wait to watch the GOP/Trump campaign ads showing the newly found videotapes of Bernie laughing it up in Russia.
 
He's been on the wrong side of just about any wrong-doing or wrong vote in Congress... and let's be honest, being a Vice-President doesn't exactly mean much anymore. I think the last VP that mattered was George H.W. Bush. If Al Gore hadn't jumped the shark so many times... he might have meant something despite being a Democrat.

If the Democrats put Biden up as the candidate, he may win but in the long run I think it will only hurt the Democratic base. Not only will Biden's past hurt them, but he undoubtedly be a one-term President which isn't long enough to actually pass meaningful legislation. The only benefit of Biden over Trump would be him naming a replacement for Ginsburg and keeping the Supreme Court fairly even. Things will be even closer to even if Biden would be able to pick Clarence Thomas's replacement when he retires.

I'd vote for almost any Republican candidate over Trump... so far however it seems only one is willing to run and the Republican Party has already said they are supporting Trump and will not help fund any other candidates.



I don't want to vote for Biden either. I agree, he has been on the wrong side of a lot of issues. Plus the man is old. We already have an old geezer as president. We don't need another one. We need someone who is younger, who can do 2 terms and actually have his own views instead of just repeating what he thinks people want to hear.

However, if Biden is the nominee for democrats, I'll vote for Biden over trump any day.

Bill Weld is running as a challenger to trump in the Republican Party but we both know he won't get the nomination. Which is too bad.

I'm going to put the nation, constitution and future generations first. For the second time in my life, I don't care who the democrats nominate. I will hold my nose and vote for that democrat. I won't vote third party this time. It's more important to me to get this communist puppet criminal out of our White House and government.
I don't think you are understanding the reality of having dozens of DEMs all chasing the same DEM donor dollars.
Whoever is the last DEM standing will be looking at an empty pie plate.
Tom Perez needs to get on the phone and put the fear of God into 90% of the candidates.
 
He's been on the wrong side of just about any wrong-doing or wrong vote in Congress... and let's be honest, being a Vice-President doesn't exactly mean much anymore. I think the last VP that mattered was George H.W. Bush. If Al Gore hadn't jumped the shark so many times... he might have meant something despite being a Democrat.

If the Democrats put Biden up as the candidate, he may win but in the long run I think it will only hurt the Democratic base. Not only will Biden's past hurt them, but he undoubtedly be a one-term President which isn't long enough to actually pass meaningful legislation. The only benefit of Biden over Trump would be him naming a replacement for Ginsburg and keeping the Supreme Court fairly even. Things will be even closer to even if Biden would be able to pick Clarence Thomas's replacement when he retires.

I'd vote for almost any Republican candidate over Trump... so far however it seems only one is willing to run and the Republican Party has already said they are supporting Trump and will not help fund any other candidates.



I don't want to vote for Biden either. I agree, he has been on the wrong side of a lot of issues. Plus the man is old. We already have an old geezer as president. We don't need another one. We need someone who is younger, who can do 2 terms and actually have his own views instead of just repeating what he thinks people want to hear.

However, if Biden is the nominee for democrats, I'll vote for Biden over trump any day.

Bill Weld is running as a challenger to trump in the Republican Party but we both know he won't get the nomination. Which is too bad.

I'm going to put the nation, constitution and future generations first. For the second time in my life, I don't care who the democrats nominate. I will hold my nose and vote for that democrat. I won't vote third party this time. It's more important to me to get this communist puppet criminal out of our White House and government.


Yep no way Weld can win because he is only known in his home state of Maryland, and he won't get very much money to campaign, as the Republican party has already said that as long as Trump runs, he's their candidate and all of the money will go to him.



I think his home state is Massachusetts. But you're right. The republicans won't nominate him. trump is their guy.

Which means I will have to hold my nose and vote for the democratic nominee. If it's not Biden I won't have to hold my nose as much.

It would be nice to be able to vote for the person who most shares my views. A lot of us won't have that choice in 2020.
 

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