I don't get the Democrats, Republicans, or Libertarians!

The constitution doesn't "dictate" anything. That's the conservative take.

What the constitution does is provide a template from which to draw the foundation of the construction of government at state and federal levels.

And it provides safeguards to the citizens of that government from overreach by the establishment of rights.

Yes it does (and you know it). It is the LAW. Hence, it DICTATES my right to keep and bear arms. It DICTATES that the federal government has limited powers. And it DICTATES that your opinions mean absolutely nothing - they are trumped by the Constitution (but hey, look on the bright side - it DICTATES that you're allowed to have AND voice your uneducated and useless opinions!)

There's really no use in going on with you.

You don't understand what you are talking about.

Pick up a dictionary..and look up what the word law means.

And right means.

And read the Constitution.

You might want to take a class in civics too.

Of course there isn't - since I've completely schooled you here and proven you WRONG on every nonsensical thing you've said.

The Constitution is the highest LAW in the land (Christ Almighty, do a Google search). Even Obama will say that (and he's a radical anti-Constitutional buffoon).
 
Most of the post along these lines are aimed at the republican party and my guess is that they are set ups designed to try to split the GOP. The choices are simple. You can whine about it or you can try to make your party more responsive to your political vision. If you are a democrat you can join the OWS rabble or the communist party and if you are a republican you can join the Tea Party group.
 
"Man" is a relative term in the libtard world isn't it? Daddy leave you some cash when he died?

Del, whenever someone starts boasting about how "rich" they are on an anonymous (and thus nearly unverifiable) medium like this one it's usually a good idea to remember:

"Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference." -- Mark Twain

The number of self proclaimed Warren Buffets on the Internet is simply amazing.

It is what it is. I do well. Crazy, isn't it?

Apparently you are operating under the fallacy that there's even a slim possibly that I would consider your self aggrandizement to be grounded in reality, truly successful people generally don't have a need to boast about their success to strangers. :rolleyes:
 
Del, whenever someone starts boasting about how "rich" they are on an anonymous (and thus nearly unverifiable) medium like this one it's usually a good idea to remember:

"Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference." -- Mark Twain

The number of self proclaimed Warren Buffets on the Internet is simply amazing.

It is what it is. I do well. Crazy, isn't it?

Apparently you are operating under the fallacy that there's even a slim possibly that I would consider your self aggrandizement to be grounded in reality, truly successful people generally don't have a need to boast about their success to strangers. :rolleyes:

Not boasting. Refuting the claims of an idiot. Read back and see for yourself.

It is interesting that this irks you so much, though. You might be just a wee bit sensitive.
 
It is a living document in terms that it is subject to change.

Read it. The Constitution allows for it.

A "Conservative" interpretation of the Constitution is a misinterpretation of the Constitution.

Because it really is not written in stone. Nor was it ever meant to be static.

No it's not - I've already debunked this a 1,000x's.

The Constitution is absolutely, positively, unquestionably written in stone (as all laws are). Is a 25mph speed limit "open to interpretation" or must it be obeyed? Are laws against rape "open to interpretation" or must it be obeyed? Are laws against murder "open to interpretation" or must it be obeyed?

If a LAW was "living, breathing" and "open to interpretation", we would have a lawless society. And the U.S. Constitution is the highest LAW in the land (it in fact trumps any and all other laws). Since you would never declare that even a speed limit is "open to interpretation", why the fuck would you ever declare that the highest law of the land is?!?!

This just PROVES you are A.) completely disingenuous and B.) WRONG. The reason Dumbocrats want to falsely claim that the Constitution is "living, breathing" and "open to interpretation" is because in their sick thirst for dictatorial power & control, they hate the fact that they are limited by it.

This permanently puts to rest this utterly absurd libtard fallacy. Thank You

The Constitution is not "LAW"..it is the foundation for LAW.

You cannot be charged with violating the Constitution, as a citizen with the possible exception of Treason. Which is specifically defined.

It's downright scary that people like you get to vote. You're so ignorant of your own laws, your own government, the candidates, and the issues that it's no wonder our nation is collapsing:

Article VI, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution, known as the Supremacy Clause, establishes the U.S. Constitution, federal statutes, and U.S. Treaties as "the supreme law of the land."


Supremacy Clause - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
The constitution doesn't "dictate" anything. That's the conservative take.

What the constitution does is provide a template from which to draw the foundation of the construction of government at state and federal levels.

And it provides safeguards to the citizens of that government from overreach by the establishment of rights.

Yes it does (and you know it). It is the LAW. Hence, it DICTATES my right to keep and bear arms. It DICTATES that the federal government has limited powers. And it DICTATES that your opinions mean absolutely nothing - they are trumped by the Constitution (but hey, look on the bright side - it DICTATES that you're allowed to have AND voice your uneducated and useless opinions!)

There's really no use in going on with you.

You don't understand what you are talking about.

Pick up a dictionary..and look up what the word law means.

And right means.

And read the Constitution.

You might want to take a class in civics too.

It's painfully clear only one of us needs to read the Constitution (hint: you). It's painfully clear only one of us needs to pick up a dictionary (hint: you). It's painfully clear only one of us needs to take a civics class (hint: you).:

Article VI, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution, known as the Supremacy Clause, establishes the U.S. Constitution, federal statutes, and U.S. Treaties as "the supreme law of the land."


Supremacy Clause - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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It is what it is. I do well. Crazy, isn't it?

Apparently you are operating under the fallacy that there's even a slim possibly that I would consider your self aggrandizement to be grounded in reality, truly successful people generally don't have a need to boast about their success to strangers. :rolleyes:

Not boasting. Refuting the claims of an idiot. Read back and see for yourself.



Idiot. I am a 48 year old man and you would kill for my net worth.

Uh-huh, next question, one wonders if you pedal as fast going forward as you do in reverse.

It is interesting that this irks you so much, though. You might be just a wee bit sensitive.
Assisting a braggart to hang himself with his own words does not "irk" me, it's quite entertaining actually, thank you for being so accommodating. :)
 
Yes it does (and you know it). It is the LAW. Hence, it DICTATES my right to keep and bear arms. It DICTATES that the federal government has limited powers. And it DICTATES that your opinions mean absolutely nothing - they are trumped by the Constitution (but hey, look on the bright side - it DICTATES that you're allowed to have AND voice your uneducated and useless opinions!)

There's really no use in going on with you.

You don't understand what you are talking about.

Pick up a dictionary..and look up what the word law means.

And right means.

And read the Constitution.

You might want to take a class in civics too.

It's painfully clear only one of us needs to read the Constitution (hint: you). It's painfully clear only one of us needs to pick up a dictionary (hint: you). It's painfully clear only one of us needs to take a civics class (hint: you).:

Article VI, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution, known as the Supremacy Clause, establishes the U.S. Constitution, federal statutes, and U.S. Treaties as "the supreme law of the land."


Supremacy Clause - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Too bad conservatives tend to dismiss the real meaning of the supremacy clause, with all their nonsense about nullification, secession, the denial of the SCOTUS's power of judicial review,

for starters.
 
Well lets see...

  • The Constitution dictates that the federal government must be small (that's conservative)

  • The Constitution dictates that the federal government must be limited in it's powers (that's conservative)

  • The Constitution dictates that the people have the RIGHT to firearms (that's conservative)

  • The Constitution dictates that the people have the RIGHT to religion (that's conservative)

  • The Constitution dictates that the people have the RIGHT to free speech (that's conservative)
Swallow, I swear, just when I think you've peaked at the epitome of stupid, you find a way to take it to a whole new level. Do you not realize that the entire premise of "conservative" is not to change - or to change very slowly and limited (hence the Constitution is by that very definition conservative) while the entire premise of "liberal" or "progressive" is to perpetually change (hence the Constitution is by that very definition not progressive) :cuckoo:

The constitution doesn't "dictate" anything. That's the conservative take.

What the constitution does is provide a template from which to draw the foundation of the construction of government at state and federal levels.

And it provides safeguards to the citizens of that government from overreach by the establishment of rights.

Yes it does (and you know it). It is the LAW. Hence, it DICTATES my right to keep and bear arms. It DICTATES that the federal government has limited powers. And it DICTATES that your opinions mean absolutely nothing - they are trumped by the Constitution (but hey, look on the bright side - it DICTATES that you're allowed to have AND voice your uneducated and useless opinions!)

The problem with your position is that the Constitution's meaning and interpretation is in the hands of the Supreme Court.
 
Apparently you are operating under the fallacy that there's even a slim possibly that I would consider your self aggrandizement to be grounded in reality, truly successful people generally don't have a need to boast about their success to strangers. :rolleyes:

Not boasting. Refuting the claims of an idiot. Read back and see for yourself.



Idiot. I am a 48 year old man and you would kill for my net worth.

Uh-huh, next question, one wonders if you pedal as fast going forward as you do in reverse.

It is interesting that this irks you so much, though. You might be just a wee bit sensitive.
Assisting a braggart to hang himself with his own words does not "irk" me, it's quite entertaining actually, thank you for being so accommodating. :)

What was I responding to when I said that, Fox?
 
The constitution doesn't "dictate" anything. That's the conservative take.

What the constitution does is provide a template from which to draw the foundation of the construction of government at state and federal levels.

And it provides safeguards to the citizens of that government from overreach by the establishment of rights.

Yes it does (and you know it). It is the LAW. Hence, it DICTATES my right to keep and bear arms. It DICTATES that the federal government has limited powers. And it DICTATES that your opinions mean absolutely nothing - they are trumped by the Constitution (but hey, look on the bright side - it DICTATES that you're allowed to have AND voice your uneducated and useless opinions!)

The problem with your position is that the Constitution's meaning and interpretation is in the hands of the Supreme Court.

What the hell are you talking about?!? My position clearly and unquestionably states the exact opposite of your wild and ignorant claim here :cuckoo:
 
I am quickly discovering, I am a man without a party. Oh, I very much am aware that I'm a constitutional conservative, but there simply doesn't seem to be any political party that viewpoint fits with anymore. Certainly it's not the Democrats, who have essentially become Marxists, Maoists and Communists. These people have become rabid sociopaths and narcissists, full of hubris and unshakable in their determination to never compromise. I don't know what their ultimate goal and objective is, honestly. I guess it's to push us into a state of civil war, whereby they believe their side will ultimately prevail, killing off all opposition, and ushering in liberal utopia? Because it's certainly not a reasoned bipartisan approach at all. They get elected to power, and immediately start ramming their agenda down our throats like little dictators, without any regard for the law or the constitution, whatsoever. And it doesn't seem to matter how badly their ideas fail, they continue to push for more and more of the same. You try and have a reasoned debate with them here, and they just ridicule and hurl insults, refusing to be civil in any manner. I've never seen anything like it in my lifetime.

Then we have the Libertarians, who I happen to share many common viewpoints with, but these people tend to be whack jobs, who take everything to the most bizarre extremes, like the idea that we should just legalize heroin and disband our military entirely, and let society do whatever the hell it pleases, with no moral or ethical boundaries whatsoever. As with the left, you try to communicate with these people, and it's like talking to a brick wall. They are all about standing on their principles, and consequence be damned. Refusing to accept any other alternative than total and complete libertarianism, without consideration that 96% of the country aren't voting for libertarian government.

Finally, we have the glorious GOP... The Grand Old Party. Once was a time, I believed the Republicans were the party who represented my viewpoints the best, and I have been a fairly consistent supporter of the party in recent years. However, what I see today makes me absolutely sick at my stomach. The current crop of mealy-mouthed leaders, have simply abandoned every conservative principle for the sake of trying to cater to special interest groups and minorities, none of which are ever going to vote Republican, because they never have. They have bailed on illegal immigration, nationalized health care, defense, taxes... you name it, if Bohner can cave on it, he's proven he will. McCain and Graham are running around acting like New Age Democrats, lecturing the rest of the right on how we have to be this way now, or else there will be hell to pay come election time...but....it's not about politics, noooo!

I used to think I could vote for Chris Christie, but he has pretty much cooked his goose, trying to be a "moderate" and play both sides of the fence, whenever it's convenient. I thought for a while, maybe I could support Rubio, he seemed like the "future" of the GOP, but he sold out on the so-called "immigration" bill, which was just outright amnesty. I liked Ron Paul for a bit, until he went totally batty during the 2008 primaries. I like a lot of what Sarah Palin has to say, but I think the presidency is a bit over her head. I am never in my life, going to vote for another Bush, sorry Jeb. I'm down to Ted Cruz, who simply has no experience to speak of, and Rand Paul, who came from the seed of a nutball. So, I am thinking the Republican party might not be the answer.

I'm simply a man without a party at this time, and it's a bit frustrating, to say the least. I'm only reassured by the fact that I don't believe I am alone. I think a growing number of people who are like myself, are disillusioned and searching for an answer, but where is it?

2 points. Libertarians don't want to disband the military no idea where you got that from and 2. Anyone who thinks Dr Paul is crazy is just a mentally disturbed person themselves so. Oh and I am no libertarian I am well past that.
 
Yes it does (and you know it). It is the LAW. Hence, it DICTATES my right to keep and bear arms. It DICTATES that the federal government has limited powers. And it DICTATES that your opinions mean absolutely nothing - they are trumped by the Constitution (but hey, look on the bright side - it DICTATES that you're allowed to have AND voice your uneducated and useless opinions!)

There's really no use in going on with you.

You don't understand what you are talking about.

Pick up a dictionary..and look up what the word law means.

And right means.

And read the Constitution.

You might want to take a class in civics too.

Of course there isn't - since I've completely schooled you here and proven you WRONG on every nonsensical thing you've said.

The Constitution is the highest LAW in the land (Christ Almighty, do a Google search). Even Obama will say that (and he's a radical anti-Constitutional buffoon).

You haven't schooled me about anything.

You've put on display, that you don't understand government, the justice system and civics in general.
 
Yes it does (and you know it). It is the LAW. Hence, it DICTATES my right to keep and bear arms. It DICTATES that the federal government has limited powers. And it DICTATES that your opinions mean absolutely nothing - they are trumped by the Constitution (but hey, look on the bright side - it DICTATES that you're allowed to have AND voice your uneducated and useless opinions!)

The problem with your position is that the Constitution's meaning and interpretation is in the hands of the Supreme Court.

What the hell are you talking about?!? My position clearly and unquestionably states the exact opposite of your wild and ignorant claim here :cuckoo:


Wait, what?

Why do you think we have a "Supreme Court"?
 
Not boasting. Refuting the claims of an idiot. Read back and see for yourself.





Uh-huh, next question, one wonders if you pedal as fast going forward as you do in reverse.

It is interesting that this irks you so much, though. You might be just a wee bit sensitive.
Assisting a braggart to hang himself with his own words does not "irk" me, it's quite entertaining actually, thank you for being so accommodating. :)

What was I responding to when I said that, Fox?

OIC the old "He made me do it" defense, most people grow out of that one around the age 5, unfortunately a few never do.

Got anything else in your bag of tricks Felix? :popcorn:
 
So far Rand Paul has done a very good job IMO. He has maintained a conservative position, and avoided being associated with the tin foil hat mobs that dragged his father down.

I actually liked having Ron Paul in the 2012 primary debates. His popular libertarian ideas seemed to pull other repukes towards the right, and his wacky ideas were easily rejected. If he would have dropped all the anti-war rhetoric he may have really gotten somewhere.
 
Uh-huh, next question, one wonders if you pedal as fast going forward as you do in reverse.


Assisting a braggart to hang himself with his own words does not "irk" me, it's quite entertaining actually, thank you for being so accommodating. :)

What was I responding to when I said that, Fox?

OIC the old "He made me do it" defense, most people grow out of that one around the age 5, unfortunately a few never do.

Got anything else in your bag of tricks Felix? :popcorn:

No tricks. Just facts. I was responding to a claim. You fail. Your habit of pulling parts out of posts is not working for you. What is making you do that? Insecurity? Dishonesty?
 
So far Rand Paul has done a very good job IMO. He has maintained a conservative position, and avoided being associated with the tin foil hat mobs that dragged his father down.

I actually liked having Ron Paul in the 2012 primary debates. His popular libertarian ideas seemed to pull other repukes towards the right, and his wacky ideas were easily rejected. If he would have dropped all the anti-war rhetoric he may have really gotten somewhere.

Yes how horrible we are a war machine! Ron Paul is never wrong...he just tells the truth and people can't stand it.
 
I am quickly discovering, I am a man without a party. Oh, I very much am aware that I'm a constitutional conservative, but there simply doesn't seem to be any political party that viewpoint fits with anymore. Certainly it's not the Democrats, who have essentially become Marxists, Maoists and Communists. These people have become rabid sociopaths and narcissists, full of hubris and unshakable in their determination to never compromise. I don't know what their ultimate goal and objective is, honestly. I guess it's to push us into a state of civil war, whereby they believe their side will ultimately prevail, killing off all opposition, and ushering in liberal utopia? Because it's certainly not a reasoned bipartisan approach at all. They get elected to power, and immediately start ramming their agenda down our throats like little dictators, without any regard for the law or the constitution, whatsoever. And it doesn't seem to matter how badly their ideas fail, they continue to push for more and more of the same. You try and have a reasoned debate with them here, and they just ridicule and hurl insults, refusing to be civil in any manner. I've never seen anything like it in my lifetime.

Then we have the Libertarians, who I happen to share many common viewpoints with, but these people tend to be whack jobs, who take everything to the most bizarre extremes, like the idea that we should just legalize heroin and disband our military entirely, and let society do whatever the hell it pleases, with no moral or ethical boundaries whatsoever. As with the left, you try to communicate with these people, and it's like talking to a brick wall. They are all about standing on their principles, and consequence be damned. Refusing to accept any other alternative than total and complete libertarianism, without consideration that 96% of the country aren't voting for libertarian government.

Finally, we have the glorious GOP... The Grand Old Party. Once was a time, I believed the Republicans were the party who represented my viewpoints the best, and I have been a fairly consistent supporter of the party in recent years. However, what I see today makes me absolutely sick at my stomach. The current crop of mealy-mouthed leaders, have simply abandoned every conservative principle for the sake of trying to cater to special interest groups and minorities, none of which are ever going to vote Republican, because they never have. They have bailed on illegal immigration, nationalized health care, defense, taxes... you name it, if Bohner can cave on it, he's proven he will. McCain and Graham are running around acting like New Age Democrats, lecturing the rest of the right on how we have to be this way now, or else there will be hell to pay come election time...but....it's not about politics, noooo!

I used to think I could vote for Chris Christie, but he has pretty much cooked his goose, trying to be a "moderate" and play both sides of the fence, whenever it's convenient. I thought for a while, maybe I could support Rubio, he seemed like the "future" of the GOP, but he sold out on the so-called "immigration" bill, which was just outright amnesty. I liked Ron Paul for a bit, until he went totally batty during the 2008 primaries. I like a lot of what Sarah Palin has to say, but I think the presidency is a bit over her head. I am never in my life, going to vote for another Bush, sorry Jeb. I'm down to Ted Cruz, who simply has no experience to speak of, and Rand Paul, who came from the seed of a nutball. So, I am thinking the Republican party might not be the answer.

I'm simply a man without a party at this time, and it's a bit frustrating, to say the least. I'm only reassured by the fact that I don't believe I am alone. I think a growing number of people who are like myself, are disillusioned and searching for an answer, but where is it?

2 points. Libertarians don't want to disband the military no idea where you got that from and 2. Anyone who thinks Dr Paul is crazy is just a mentally disturbed person themselves so. Oh and I am no libertarian I am well past that.

Dr. Paul is an absolute quack who would be locked in an institute if a member of his family ever requested to have him evaluated. It's just a simple fact.
 
No tricks. Just facts. I was responding to a claim. You fail. Your habit of pulling parts out of posts is not working for you. What is making you do that? Insecurity? Dishonesty?

Ahhh.. the "claim victory then deflect" gambit, another goldie oldie, can't wait to we get to the "I didn't really mean what I posted" stage. :popcorn:
 

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