I am tired of warmers...

[gslack]

All hail the goracle! And hallowed are the algorian...

 

[westwall]

All hail the goracle! And hallowed are the algorian...

Is the goracle even human? His greatness is immense!

 

[gslack]

" And the people saw the warming, and trembled. And the Goracle said bring onto me he who is without faith and I shall impose a great tax on life, and all of man shall know the evil of their carbon footprint."

The Tao of Algorianism, Book of Carbon Credits, Chapter 2, Verse 13.

 

[konradv]

There you have it, folks!!! The science isn't on their side, so they have to go back to talking about Gore. Do you really need any other evidence that the whole opposition to AGW theory is based on politics rather than science?!?!

 

[gslack]

There you have it, folks!!! The science isn't on their side, so they have to go back to talking about Gore. Do you really need any other evidence that the whole opposition to AGW theory is based on politics rather than science?!?!

Hush junior, we already showed the science isn't in your favor, now we are just making fun of you faithful...

 

[konradv]

There you have it, folks!!! The science isn't on their side, so they have to go back to talking about Gore. Do you really need any other evidence that the whole opposition to AGW theory is based on politics rather than science?!?!

Hush junior, we already showed the science isn't in your favor, now we are just making fun of you faithful...

Move over, gramps, you've yet to show you know anything about the science. The science is simple, but you just try to complicate things to further your own political agenda.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Move over, gramps, you've yet to show you know anything about the science. The science is simple, but you just try to complicate things to further your own political agenda.

BWAHAHAHAHA

Yeah, Gore said it, you believe it, simple as that.

That ain't "science," it's faith. You cultists sure are funny.

 

[konradv]

Move over, gramps, you've yet to show you know anything about the science. The science is simple, but you just try to complicate things to further your own political agenda.

BWAHAHAHAHA

Yeah, Gore said it, you believe it, simple as that.

That ain't "science," it's faith. You cultists sure are funny.

You're a real moron. I don't talk about Gore, except to show what fools those who do, are. What's more cultish than the FAITH that we can't possibly be doing anything to the climate of something as large as Earth?

 

[gslack]

Move over, gramps, you've yet to show you know anything about the science. The science is simple, but you just try to complicate things to further your own political agenda.

BWAHAHAHAHA

Yeah, Gore said it, you believe it, simple as that.

That ain't "science," it's faith. You cultists sure are funny.

You're a real moron. I don't talk about Gore, except to show what fools those who do, are. What's more cultish than the FAITH that we can't possibly be doing anything to the climate of something as large as Earth?

 

[westwall]

Move over, gramps, you've yet to show you know anything about the science. The science is simple, but you just try to complicate things to further your own political agenda.

BWAHAHAHAHA

Yeah, Gore said it, you believe it, simple as that.

That ain't "science," it's faith. You cultists sure are funny.

You're a real moron. I don't talk about Gore, except to show what fools those who do, are. What's more cultish than the FAITH that we can't possibly be doing anything to the climate of something as large as Earth?

What was that mr. one trick pony? When you come up with some science to back up your claims by all means feel free to come back and play. Otherwise enjoy your circle jerk with MENSA boy.

 

[IanC]

There you have it, folks!!! The science isn't on their side, so they have to go back to talking about Gore. Do you really need any other evidence that the whole opposition to AGW theory is based on politics rather than science?!?!

Hush junior, we already showed the science isn't in your favor, now we are just making fun of you faithful...

Move over, gramps, you've yet to show you know anything about the science. The science is simple, but you just try to complicate things to further your own political agenda.

konradv- anyone who promised you that the science was uncomplicated was lying. same goes for 'settled'.

oh....and BTW....pretty much all of the numerous sides in this debate have a political agenda. especially the CAGWers

 

[gslack]

Want to see the real problem with climate change?

Heres two different news companies reporting on the same story.. First the liberal MSNBC..

http://http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43949972/ns/us_news-environment/

Climate change debunked? Not so fast

New research suggesting that cloud cover, not carbon dioxide, causes global warming is getting buzz in climate skeptic circles. But mainstream climate scientists dismissed the research as unrealistic and politically motivated.

"It is not newsworthy," Daniel Murphy, a National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) cloud researcher, wrote in an email to LiveScience.

The study, published July 26 in the open-access online journal Remote Sensing, got public attention when a writer for The Heartland Institute, a libertarian think-tank that promotes climate change skepticism, wrote for Forbes magazine that the study disproved the global warming worries of climate change "alarmists." However, mainstream climate scientists say that the argument advanced in the paper is neither new nor correct. The paper's author, University of Alabama, Huntsville researcher Roy Spencer, is a climate change skeptic and controversial figure within the climate research community.

WOW, they failed to mention the data he used was from NASA and he works for them...

Oh well lets get another opinion this time from FORBES most accounts a decidedly right leaning news..

New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism - Yahoo! News

New NASA Data Blow Gaping Hole In Global Warming Alarmism

NASA satellite data from the years 2000 through 2011 show the Earth's atmosphere is allowing far more heat to be released into space than alarmist computer models have predicted, reports a new study in the peer-reviewed science journal Remote Sensing. The study indicates far less future global warming will occur than United Nations computer models have predicted, and supports prior studies indicating increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide trap far less heat than alarmists have claimed.

Study co-author Dr. Roy Spencer, a principal research scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville and U.S. Science Team Leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer flying on NASA's Aqua satellite, reports that real-world data from NASA's Terra satellite contradict multiple assumptions fed into alarmist computer models.

WOW, the MSNBC article did not mention anyone but spencer but as it turns out he is one of the authors and researchers involved. Also notice how the MSNBC article focused on cloud cover now? yeah they are doing it again, first it went from warming to climate change now its going to go from CO2 induced to CO2 causing more clouds and they cause it... Sure man sure...

Its completely asinine and so full of PR now its to the point people don't freaking care anymore. IN all fairness the FORBES article actually cited scientists, and mentioned all the people and their actual credentials. Whereas the MSNBC one basically downplayed spencer and tried to sham it all over by claiming clouds is the new thing anyway so CO2 is old news....

Want truth on this? Dig and dig some more overload yourself with info from both sides then follow your nose. If it smells, tastes, and looks like shit, its shit no matter who gave it to you... I find using this process leads to a realization that the so-called "big money" in this debate is on the ECOmentalist side...

 

[Article 15]

I am tired of warmers...

You could settle the debate and do the whole world a favor by using your head to block all the suns rays from hitting half the planet for an extra hour each day.

 

[IanC]

Want truth on this? Dig and dig some more overload yourself with info from both sides then follow your nose. If it smells, tastes, and looks like shit, its shit no matter who gave it to you... QUOTE]

that it, in a nutshell

 

[gslack]

THey are already hedging their bets...

Arctic ice melt could pause in near future, then resume again | UCAR

Arctic ice melt could pause in near future, then resume again

August 11, 2011
BOULDER—Although Arctic sea ice appears fated to melt away as the climate continues to warm, the ice may temporarily stabilize or somewhat expand at times over the next few decades, new research indicates.

The computer modeling study, by scientists at the National Center for Atmospheric Research, reinforces previous findings by other research teams that the level of Arctic sea ice loss observed in recent decades cannot be explained by natural causes alone, and that the ice will eventually disappear during summer if climate change continues.

But in an unexpected new result, the NCAR research team found that Arctic ice under current climate conditions is as likely to expand as it is to contract for periods of up to about a decade.

“One of the results that surprised us all was the number of computer simulations that indicated a temporary halt to the loss of the ice,” says NCAR scientist Jennifer Kay, the lead author. “The computer simulations suggest that we could see a 10-year period of stable ice or even a slight increase in the extent of the ice. Even though the observed ice loss has accelerated over the last decade, the fate of sea ice over the next decade depends not only on human activity but also on climate variability that cannot be predicted.”

Once again if the ice melts its warming if it expands its still warming.... UNBELIEVABLE!

 

[konradv]

THey are already hedging their bets...

Arctic ice melt could pause in near future, then resume again | UCAR

Arctic ice melt could pause in near future, then resume again

August 11, 2011
BOULDER—Although Arctic sea ice appears fated to melt away as the climate continues to warm, the ice may temporarily stabilize or somewhat expand at times over the next few decades, new research indicates.

The computer modeling study, by scientists at the National Center for Atmospheric Research, reinforces previous findings by other research teams that the level of Arctic sea ice loss observed in recent decades cannot be explained by natural causes alone, and that the ice will eventually disappear during summer if climate change continues.

But in an unexpected new result, the NCAR research team found that Arctic ice under current climate conditions is as likely to expand as it is to contract for periods of up to about a decade.

“One of the results that surprised us all was the number of computer simulations that indicated a temporary halt to the loss of the ice,” says NCAR scientist Jennifer Kay, the lead author. “The computer simulations suggest that we could see a 10-year period of stable ice or even a slight increase in the extent of the ice. Even though the observed ice loss has accelerated over the last decade, the fate of sea ice over the next decade depends not only on human activity but also on climate variability that cannot be predicted.”

Once again if the ice melts its warming if it expands its still warming.... UNBELIEVABLE!

You seem to have missed an important point, "the fate of sea ice over the next decade depends not only on human activity but also on climate variability that cannot be predicted". It seems it's not true that AGW proponents forget about natural cycles. They're saying IT IS those cycles AND human activity. You seem to be completely misreading the statement.

 

[gslack]

THey are already hedging their bets...

Arctic ice melt could pause in near future, then resume again | UCAR

Arctic ice melt could pause in near future, then resume again

August 11, 2011
BOULDER—Although Arctic sea ice appears fated to melt away as the climate continues to warm, the ice may temporarily stabilize or somewhat expand at times over the next few decades, new research indicates.

The computer modeling study, by scientists at the National Center for Atmospheric Research, reinforces previous findings by other research teams that the level of Arctic sea ice loss observed in recent decades cannot be explained by natural causes alone, and that the ice will eventually disappear during summer if climate change continues.

But in an unexpected new result, the NCAR research team found that Arctic ice under current climate conditions is as likely to expand as it is to contract for periods of up to about a decade.

“One of the results that surprised us all was the number of computer simulations that indicated a temporary halt to the loss of the ice,” says NCAR scientist Jennifer Kay, the lead author. “The computer simulations suggest that we could see a 10-year period of stable ice or even a slight increase in the extent of the ice. Even though the observed ice loss has accelerated over the last decade, the fate of sea ice over the next decade depends not only on human activity but also on climate variability that cannot be predicted.”

Once again if the ice melts its warming if it expands its still warming.... UNBELIEVABLE!

You seem to have missed an important point, "the fate of sea ice over the next decade depends not only on human activity but also on climate variability that cannot be predicted". It seems it's not true that AGW proponents forget about natural cycles. They're saying IT IS those cycles AND human activity. You seem to be completely misreading the statement.

Nah, I got that one it was right after this one..

“The computer simulations suggest that we could see a 10-year period of stable ice or even a slight increase in the extent of the ice."

A decade of stable, increased or less ice? Really? Gee thats a very safe bet now isn't it. SO then no matter what they want us to know its still evidence for AGW.... Sure, sure.. But hey you go on ahead and believe what they want you to don't let the truth get in the way of your zealotry.

 

[Big Fitz]

I am tired of warmers...

You could settle the debate and do the whole world a favor by using your head to block all the suns rays from hitting half the planet for an extra hour each day.

Save the Earth from overpopulation by euthanasia. I'll let you go first.

 

[konradv]

THey are already hedging their bets...

Arctic ice melt could pause in near future, then resume again | UCAR


Once again if the ice melts its warming if it expands its still warming.... UNBELIEVABLE!

You seem to have missed an important point, "the fate of sea ice over the next decade depends not only on human activity but also on climate variability that cannot be predicted". It seems it's not true that AGW proponents forget about natural cycles. They're saying IT IS those cycles AND human activity. You seem to be completely misreading the statement.

Nah, I got that one it was right after this one..

“The computer simulations suggest that we could see a 10-year period of stable ice or even a slight increase in the extent of the ice."

A decade of stable, increased or less ice? Really? Gee thats a very safe bet now isn't it. SO then no matter what they want us to know its still evidence for AGW.... Sure, sure.. But hey you go on ahead and believe what they want you to don't let the truth get in the way of your zealotry.

What ARE you complaining about? The computer simulations include NATURAL CYCLES!!! The skeptics are always harping on them, but don't want to recognize that they've been included all along. Don't expect us to go along with your intellectual dishonesty.

 

[Cuyo]

Isn't there an "Anti-Moron" rule on this board?!?!

Why? You want Sucks Old Cocks banned?