I am starting to Feel Bad for Ron Paul

[FuelRod]

Newt needs to STFU as well. The jackass won his home state. He embarassed himself last night.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

I love it when progressives feel the need to inject in a Paul thread as if their opinion on the matter is even relevant. You'll have your marxist again for four more years. I HOPE he CHANGES the country into the communist utopia you all long for.

 

[Avorysuds]

He is the only guy hasn't won a primary and yet his backers still say he has a chance to win. Heck even Gingrich won GA on Super Tuesday. RP laid up another goose egg.

2012 Presidential Primary Calendar - Primary & Caucus Schedule | Politics | Fox News
Here's his run down:
VT - 2nd to Romney 8 deleg, RP 3 Deleg
VA - 2nd to Romney (no one else was on the ballot) 43 to MR only 3 to RP
GA - 4th 0 delegates
OH - 4th 0- delegates
ND - 2nd, but one 1 more delegate then 3rd place Romney 8 -7
TN - 4th 0 delegates
OK - 4th 0 delegates
WY - Not done yet, but currently he has 2% in a distant 3rd (with Gingrich not on the ballot)
ID - 2nd 0 delegates
MA - 3rd 0 delegates.
AK - A distant 2nd by 16%,.

The nutters keep saying he is the man, but he keeps losing! It's getting so bad I feel embarrassed for the guy.

i don't feel bad for him. i feel bad for the paulian idiots who keep saying he's going to "win" or he's "going to be the nominee" or "he's going to rake up delegates" when those things are counter intuitive, counter to all of the evidence and counter to reality....

but then again, they also believe that a man who claims to want term limits but has made a living on the government dime and then put his son into the family business, is sincere...

When you have nothing go after Paul for wanting term limits....

Hey Jill, you better be first in line to vote for the President who:
Expanded homeland security
Re-passed the Bush era tax cuts
Gave more tax cuts (tax credits really) during a time of expanded wars
Started shit with Iran (Very possibly War soon)
Started shit with Syria
Started shit with Giraffe (War)
Kept Guantanamo open
Passed the NDAA
Passes Obamacare despite being obviously unconstitutional and coats keep going up
Got the country downgraded
Raised the deficit spending despite claiming he would cut it by half in his first term
Bailed out the rich
Established "to big to fail"
Has done nothing with illegal immigration
Was kicked out of Iraq and ended it only on the timeline Bush had set up, Obama wanted to stay longer.

The list goes on but maybe the most important is that Obama didn't repeal a single Bush policy with the a historic Dem Senate and house...

You better camp over night to vote for this man Jill!!! After all he did win the Nobel peace prize for being black and he also killed OBL himself... Oh and Obama talks mad chit about raising taxes on
"the rich" yet managed to wait until he had a Republican minority to deal with before he tried to do it... Shocking!

 

[Dr.Drock]

Ron Paul loves to preach financial responsiblity, while he's spending millions of other people's money on an illusion of a presidential campaign that cannot possibly succeed.

What is more financially irresponsible than that?

People donate money to him to spend on his campaign and to you it'd be financially irresponsible for him to use the funds for something other than the reason they donated them?



Sad and pathetic from you NYC, maybe saying things so stupid is caused by the insecurity you've obtained by voting for a corporate warmongering shill and you feel that since you've dug in so deep you can't turn away from the Chosen One.



See the light, walk towards it my friend.

 

[Spectre13]

I do support his elimination of the fed,everything else a fail....

Really, he reminds me of Ross Perot. He has moments of lucidity and brilliance; he certainly is not a flip-flopper. He is steady as a rock. He has the habit of shooting himself in the foot. His stance on race, and his barbaric approach to healthcare are his undoing...

C'mon, stop this horseshit. His stance on race is that Americans should be COLORBLIND. We are all free INDIVIDUALS, and the Governments job is to PROTECT those rights for EVERYONE.

COLORBLIND INDIVIDUALS PROTECT EVERYONE!!

His own newsletter is the thing that got him in trouble with the race issue. It may be that he has a racist on his staff, but he is still responsible for it's content. Just like any other person who has a vehicle that forwards his agenda.

 

[Spectre13]

Odd how many americans trust a community organizer's view on healthcare over a doctors.



It'd be like me trusting an accountant on how to make a great steak more than an experienced steak chef.

These, however are not steaks, they are people. Yes, cutting off healthcare and Medicare seems anti-hippocratic oath to me. That is creepy. I don't see how letting people go without healthcare or Medicare will help amyone. Sorry, that is MHO.

That's weird, I've never heard him say anyone should be denied healthcare.

Actually he's DONE the exact opposite, he provided free and reduced cost medicare to people who couldn't afford it, and he worked in a charity-based hospital.

Does Obama have any real life experience close to that?

Does Obama have the morals to dig into his own pocket book to help his fellow americans with their medical expenses the way Paul has already done?

Go back to the first couple of debates. He mentions getting rid of these "entitlements," which, was one of the few things he got coverage on. Most of the time the media and the candidates left him out of the mix, which was blantantly unfair. They did it to all but the front 3, with Ron Paul hanging in there anyway.

 

[rightwinger]

You have to feel sorry for Ron Paul

This is the third time he has run for President and he has yet to win a single state

For gods sake.......Even a lightweight like Santorum wins one in a while

 

[Dr.Drock]

These, however are not steaks, they are people. Yes, cutting off healthcare and Medicare seems anti-hippocratic oath to me. That is creepy. I don't see how letting people go without healthcare or Medicare will help amyone. Sorry, that is MHO.

That's weird, I've never heard him say anyone should be denied healthcare.

Actually he's DONE the exact opposite, he provided free and reduced cost medicare to people who couldn't afford it, and he worked in a charity-based hospital.

Does Obama have any real life experience close to that?

Does Obama have the morals to dig into his own pocket book to help his fellow americans with their medical expenses the way Paul has already done?

Go back to the first couple of debates. He mentions getting rid of these "entitlements," which, was one of the few things he got coverage on. Most of the time the media and the candidates left him out of the mix, which was blantantly unfair. They did it to all but the front 3, with Ron Paul hanging in there anyway.

Did uninsured ppl receive healthcare prior to these entitlements being created?

Yes or no?

 

[Spectre13]

The Paul fans will be retreating to their burrows soon, for another 4 year nap.

Yes, we aren't concerned citizens. We're trolls that come out every four years in order to give you big govt statists a group to laugh at, insult, degrade and be generally disrespectful towards.

The problem is, there is no "4 year nap" after this year. We don't have another candidate and Paul is retiring.

So pat yourselves on the back and keep throwing mud in the fight of socialists vs. corporatists. As for me (since I can't speakk for others) it's back to not giving a flying shit about which big govt statist will further set the constitution on fire, erode civil liberties and spend the country into oblivion. The republic, it was on life support, it looks like it now will simply get the white sheet and the cold locker.

Good night suite prince.

Hey, whaddaya mean 4 year nap? The campaigning starts after the acceptance speech!

 

[Spectre13]

The Paul fans will be retreating to their burrows soon, for another 4 year nap.

Yes, we aren't concerned citizens. We're trolls that come out every four years in order to give you big govt statists a group to laugh at, insult, degrade and be generally disrespectful towards.

The problem is, there is no "4 year nap" after this year. We don't have another candidate and Paul is retiring.

So pat yourselves on the back and keep throwing mud in the fight of socialists vs. corporatists. As for me (since I can't speakk for others) it's back to not giving a flying shit about which big govt statist will further set the constitution on fire, erode civil liberties and spend the country into oblivion. The republic, it was on life support, it looks like it now will simply get the white sheet and the cold locker.

Good night suite prince.

Hey, whaddaya mean 4 year nap? The campaigning starts after the acceptance speech!

Ron Paul loves to preach financial responsiblity, while he's spending millions of other people's money on an illusion of a presidential campaign that cannot possibly succeed.

What is more financially irresponsible than that?

Everyday I get the honor of seeing completely incoherent and outright stupid posts. Thanks for making that post so early in the day NY.


Does that mean that anyone, Dem or Rep that lost an election was/is fiscally irresponsible despite every single one of them, no matter their party, ran off and talked about being just the opposite of what they are when they happen to get elected?

We don’t have ten+ Trillion dollar deficit because of either single party or any one piece of new legislation.

Well, as they say, not all conservatives are stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.

 

[Spectre13]

He is the only guy hasn't won a primary and yet his backers still say he has a chance to win. Heck even Gingrich won GA on Super Tuesday. RP laid up another goose egg.

2012 Presidential Primary Calendar - Primary & Caucus Schedule | Politics | Fox News
Here's his run down:
VT - 2nd to Romney 8 deleg, RP 3 Deleg
VA - 2nd to Romney (no one else was on the ballot) 43 to MR only 3 to RP
GA - 4th 0 delegates
OH - 4th 0- delegates
ND - 2nd, but one 1 more delegate then 3rd place Romney 8 -7
TN - 4th 0 delegates
OK - 4th 0 delegates
WY - Not done yet, but currently he has 2% in a distant 3rd (with Gingrich not on the ballot)
ID - 2nd 0 delegates
MA - 3rd 0 delegates.
AK - A distant 2nd by 16%,.

The nutters keep saying he is the man, but he keeps losing! It's getting so bad I feel embarrassed for the guy.

i don't feel bad for him. i feel bad for the paulian idiots who keep saying he's going to "win" or he's "going to be the nominee" or "he's going to rake up delegates" when those things are counter intuitive, counter to all of the evidence and counter to reality....

but then again, they also believe that a man who claims to want term limits but has made a living on the government dime and then put his son into the family business, is sincere...

And we all know his son is flake extract....

 

[Spectre13]

That's weird, I've never heard him say anyone should be denied healthcare.

Actually he's DONE the exact opposite, he provided free and reduced cost medicare to people who couldn't afford it, and he worked in a charity-based hospital.

Does Obama have any real life experience close to that?

Does Obama have the morals to dig into his own pocket book to help his fellow americans with their medical expenses the way Paul has already done?

Go back to the first couple of debates. He mentions getting rid of these "entitlements," which, was one of the few things he got coverage on. Most of the time the media and the candidates left him out of the mix, which was blantantly unfair. They did it to all but the front 3, with Ron Paul hanging in there anyway.

Did uninsured ppl receive healthcare prior to these entitlements being created?

Yes or no?

No.
We also did not have cars, or lights or lots of other stuff in that more primative time. this is what I mean. Instead of looking to the future for the benefit of society, there is a focus on the past which is a defunct model. We have never been where we are now. We have to look to the future with a new model and a new future.

 

[dblack]

The nutters keep saying he is the man, but he keeps losing! It's getting so bad I feel embarrassed for the guy.

No need. Paul's chanced at winning have never been the point. He's building a movement, and it's growing steadily. He's selling the idea that freedom is worth holding onto, and the message is taking root. His numbers are much better this time than last time around than last and, as the Republicans are going to find out (again), his supporters can't be taken for granted the way the Tea Party bunch could. The pubs are going to lose the majority of voters who were supporting Paul in the primary, as they simply won't vote for a Republican candidate who is a virtual clone of Obama.

Also, and I think this is even more important, RP shines a light on the hypocrisy on both sides of the isle. Not only is he more of a true conservative than any of the Republican candidates, he's a more consistent defender of many liberal views that most of the Democrats. That's why he evokes bitter resentment from Democrats and Republicans equally. They can see that he wants to bust up their scam, and his growing support must be unsettling.

 

[Dr.Drock]

Go back to the first couple of debates. He mentions getting rid of these "entitlements," which, was one of the few things he got coverage on. Most of the time the media and the candidates left him out of the mix, which was blantantly unfair. They did it to all but the front 3, with Ron Paul hanging in there anyway.

Did uninsured ppl receive healthcare prior to these entitlements being created?

Yes or no?

No.
We also did not have cars, or lights or lots of other stuff in that more primative time. this is what I mean. Instead of looking to the future for the benefit of society, there is a focus on the past which is a defunct model. We have never been where we are now. We have to look to the future with a new model and a new future.

No? So when Ron Paul worked as a doctor at these charity based hosptials, he turned people away if they didn't produce adequate insurance?

Wow, that's a revelation!

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

He is the only guy hasn't won a primary and yet his backers still say he has a chance to win. Heck even Gingrich won GA on Super Tuesday. RP laid up another goose egg.

2012 Presidential Primary Calendar - Primary & Caucus Schedule | Politics | Fox News
Here's his run down:
VT - 2nd to Romney 8 deleg, RP 3 Deleg
VA - 2nd to Romney (no one else was on the ballot) 43 to MR only 3 to RP
GA - 4th 0 delegates
OH - 4th 0- delegates
ND - 2nd, but one 1 more delegate then 3rd place Romney 8 -7
TN - 4th 0 delegates
OK - 4th 0 delegates
WY - Not done yet, but currently he has 2% in a distant 3rd (with Gingrich not on the ballot)
ID - 2nd 0 delegates
MA - 3rd 0 delegates.
AK - A distant 2nd by 16%,.

The nutters keep saying he is the man, but he keeps losing! It's getting so bad I feel embarrassed for the guy.

i don't feel bad for him. i feel bad for the paulian idiots who keep saying he's going to "win" or he's "going to be the nominee" or "he's going to rake up delegates" when those things are counter intuitive, counter to all of the evidence and counter to reality....

but then again, they also believe that a man who claims to want term limits but has made a living on the government dime and then put his son into the family business, is sincere...

Ron Paul's not a hypocrite, Jillian. You are.

 

[Spectre13]

Did uninsured ppl receive healthcare prior to these entitlements being created?

Yes or no?

No.
We also did not have cars, or lights or lots of other stuff in that more primative time. this is what I mean. Instead of looking to the future for the benefit of society, there is a focus on the past which is a defunct model. We have never been where we are now. We have to look to the future with a new model and a new future.

No? So when Ron Paul worked as a doctor at these charity based hosptials, he turned people away if they didn't produce adequate insurance?

Wow, that's a revelation!

I have no idea, that also was in the past. It is what is current that is relevant. If he did, then that was noble on his part, but he came across to me like he wanted to get rid of it all. Aparantly, that is how he came across to many people. Granted, I am left of center but I don't do partys so I listen to everyone. I like a lot of what he says, so I did not go into this year thinking I would walk away not liking the man. Sometimes in his oratories, the hair on the back of my neck stands up just as straight as that elitest Mitt Romney insites in me, so I have to stop and wonder why that happens.

How ironic that someone who wanted it cut out, has been living on the government salary for a good portion of his life.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Go back to the first couple of debates. He mentions getting rid of these "entitlements," which, was one of the few things he got coverage on. Most of the time the media and the candidates left him out of the mix, which was blantantly unfair. They did it to all but the front 3, with Ron Paul hanging in there anyway.

Did uninsured ppl receive healthcare prior to these entitlements being created?

Yes or no?

No.
We also did not have cars, or lights or lots of other stuff in that more primative time. this is what I mean. Instead of looking to the future for the benefit of society, there is a focus on the past which is a defunct model. We have never been where we are now. We have to look to the future with a new model and a new future.

LMAO.

See why it all becomes pointless?

Automobiles began mass production in 1902 and that expanded greatly by Ford in 1914. Electricity and lighting came to the market in the 19th century, and has been expanded upon exponentially since then through innovations.

FDR brought us our faling social programs in the 1930s as a response to growing state and corporate interests and a lack of labor from the influx of the great depression and WWII.

What you are trying to beat around the bush to get at, is that we need to upgrade more social programs via government intervention. I hear it a lot. People dying in the street, grand parents walking to work both ways uphill with no shoes, people having to eat each other to stay alive and a host of other fallacious appeal to emotions if FDR didn't rescue us from ourselves.

You're barking up the wrong forest of trees on this. You should probably head into one of the Obama threads where you'll find more comfort in peer conformity to these lies.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

How ironic that someone who wanted it cut out, has been living on the government salary for a good portion of his life.

You're wrong. Which means you let the TEEVEE do your thinking for you. Congrats! Tellem' what has been won, Johnny!!!

 

[Dr.Drock]

No.
We also did not have cars, or lights or lots of other stuff in that more primative time. this is what I mean. Instead of looking to the future for the benefit of society, there is a focus on the past which is a defunct model. We have never been where we are now. We have to look to the future with a new model and a new future.

No? So when Ron Paul worked as a doctor at these charity based hosptials, he turned people away if they didn't produce adequate insurance?

Wow, that's a revelation!

I have no idea, that also was in the past. It is what is current that is relevant. If he did, then that was noble on his part, but he came across to me like he wanted to get rid of it all. Aparantly, that is how he came across to many people. Granted, I am left of center but I don't do partys so I listen to everyone. I like a lot of what he says, so I did not go into this year thinking I would walk away not liking the man. Sometimes in his oratories, the hair on the back of my neck stands up just as straight as that elitest Mitt Romney insites in me, so I have to stop and wonder why that happens.

How ironic that someone who wanted it cut out, has been living on the government salary for a good portion of his life.

Well your first answer was No. Is your answer no or I have no idea?

So hopefully I was able to open your eye to the fact that Paul has personally helped poor people with their healthcare (Obama hasn't), and no people weren't turned away from healthcare prior to these entitlements being invented.

And in terms of Ron Paul's pay, here's some more fun facts;

Ron Paul Signs on to Letter Calling for Pay Cut in Congress | Ron Paul 2012 | Peace . Gold . Liberty

LAKE JACKSON, Texas--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Yesterday, 2012 Republican Presidential candidate Ron Paul joined a bipartisan group of legislators in a letter sent to the members of the Super Committee calling for a reduction in Congressional compensation as part of any proposal to reduce the deficit.

“Congressman Paul has always voted against congressional pay raises, and he not does participate in the lucrative pension program”

“Congressman Paul has always voted against congressional pay raises, and he not does participate in the lucrative pension program,” said Ron Paul 2012 Presidential Campaign Committee Chairman Jesse Benton.

 

[GHook93]

He's done a great job standing all by himself (literally standing at 76, while Newt needs a chair) and consistently defending his beliefs and the cause of liberty for a very long time. Sometimes I think behind the very cordial and relatively soft spoken (although not a very good speaker) man, is a rage that would turn the other "I want the job and power" candidates passion into dust.

Great give him an A for effort, like Tacredo in 2008! However, an A for effort is only good when your in grammer school. Without results, you can't change the world! That is what Paulites want right, the world to change!