Humans are Intrinsically Evil

DGS49

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My grand-daughter is being "bullied" in pre-school. Other little girls mock her because she was wait-listed for a field trip to an ice cream emporium. And that's not all. It is routine.

People are evil. Unless an intervening force turns them around (partly or entirely) they will lie, cheat, and steal according to (a) the chances that they will get caught, and (b) the likely ramifications of being caught. Call it "original sin" if you must.

Note that there is nothing virtuous about not doing wrong when the likelihood of being caught is high or the ramifications dire.

Look at situations, cultures, and environments where parenting is lacking and the kids almost all and almost always turn out bad. This is the endemic problem with mother-led, single-parent households and the boys that come out of them. There is no sufficiently strong influence to turn them away from their natural hedonistic, selfish, vicious tendencies.

Look around the world at all the Russian emigres who are involved in major crime organizations of all kinds. Russia just came out of a situation where kids were taken from their parents and raised by a godless state FOR GENERATIONS. Is it any wonder that they are at the forefront of porn, countless scams, and international cyber-crime?

We should always be on the lookout for people and groups of people who are conspicuously virtuous: people who have high ethical and moral standards, who do well in school, who are accomplished but modest, people who give time and money to charitable causes, regardless of whether there is a tax deduction coming. And ask yourself WHY these folks are extraordinary.

Usually, there is a religious tradition in the family. It's not a coincidence.
 
Your granddaughter being bullied does not prove that humans are intrinsically evil. People need to be taught right from wrong, they don't necessarily figure it out on their own. That doesn't mean they are evil. I certainly agree that God fearing people tend to be kinder and have a better work ethic. They have an advantage. They've been taught.

Now is a opportunity to teach your granddaughter to turn the other cheek, pray for those who mistreat you, love your enemies, judge not lest you be judged, etc. Don't you think?
 
It isn't that simple. There are many examples of bad kids emerging from good homes and vice versa. In general I agree that lack of a strong family structure leads to bad and self destructive behavior but like all things human nothing is absolute and there are exceptions to every rule.
 
My grand-daughter is being "bullied" in pre-school. Other little girls mock her because she was wait-listed for a field trip to an ice cream emporium. And that's not all. It is routine.

People are evil. Unless an intervening force turns them around (partly or entirely) they will lie, cheat, and steal according to (a) the chances that they will get caught, and (b) the likely ramifications of being caught. Call it "original sin" if you must.

Note that there is nothing virtuous about not doing wrong when the likelihood of being caught is high or the ramifications dire.

Look at situations, cultures, and environments where parenting is lacking and the kids almost all and almost always turn out bad. This is the endemic problem with mother-led, single-parent households and the boys that come out of them. There is no sufficiently strong influence to turn them away from their natural hedonistic, selfish, vicious tendencies.

Look around the world at all the Russian emigres who are involved in major crime organizations of all kinds. Russia just came out of a situation where kids were taken from their parents and raised by a godless state FOR GENERATIONS. Is it any wonder that they are at the forefront of porn, countless scams, and international cyber-crime?

We should always be on the lookout for people and groups of people who are conspicuously virtuous: people who have high ethical and moral standards, who do well in school, who are accomplished but modest, people who give time and money to charitable causes, regardless of whether there is a tax deduction coming. And ask yourself WHY these folks are extraordinary.

Usually, there is a religious tradition in the family. It's not a coincidence.
You seem to be ignoring the good when it comes time for your final tally.
 
My grand-daughter is being "bullied" in pre-school. Other little girls mock her because she was wait-listed for a field trip to an ice cream emporium. And that's not all. It is routine.

People are evil. Unless an intervening force turns them around (partly or entirely) they will lie, cheat, and steal according to (a) the chances that they will get caught, and (b) the likely ramifications of being caught. Call it "original sin" if you must.

Note that there is nothing virtuous about not doing wrong when the likelihood of being caught is high or the ramifications dire.

Look at situations, cultures, and environments where parenting is lacking and the kids almost all and almost always turn out bad. This is the endemic problem with mother-led, single-parent households and the boys that come out of them. There is no sufficiently strong influence to turn them away from their natural hedonistic, selfish, vicious tendencies.

Look around the world at all the Russian emigres who are involved in major crime organizations of all kinds. Russia just came out of a situation where kids were taken from their parents and raised by a godless state FOR GENERATIONS. Is it any wonder that they are at the forefront of porn, countless scams, and international cyber-crime?

We should always be on the lookout for people and groups of people who are conspicuously virtuous: people who have high ethical and moral standards, who do well in school, who are accomplished but modest, people who give time and money to charitable causes, regardless of whether there is a tax deduction coming. And ask yourself WHY these folks are extraordinary.

Usually, there is a religious tradition in the family. It's not a coincidence.
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you deliberately ignore the recorded history of organized religion through the centuries, unimpeded persecution and victimization - for those that are not their members - that is a depiction yourself. holyrollers are a dime a dozen.
 
My grand-daughter is being "bullied" in pre-school. Other little girls mock her because she was wait-listed for a field trip to an ice cream emporium. And that's not all. It is routine.

People are evil. Unless an intervening force turns them around (partly or entirely) they will lie, cheat, and steal according to (a) the chances that they will get caught, and (b) the likely ramifications of being caught. Call it "original sin" if you must.

Note that there is nothing virtuous about not doing wrong when the likelihood of being caught is high or the ramifications dire.

Look at situations, cultures, and environments where parenting is lacking and the kids almost all and almost always turn out bad. This is the endemic problem with mother-led, single-parent households and the boys that come out of them. There is no sufficiently strong influence to turn them away from their natural hedonistic, selfish, vicious tendencies.

Look around the world at all the Russian emigres who are involved in major crime organizations of all kinds. Russia just came out of a situation where kids were taken from their parents and raised by a godless state FOR GENERATIONS. Is it any wonder that they are at the forefront of porn, countless scams, and international cyber-crime?

We should always be on the lookout for people and groups of people who are conspicuously virtuous: people who have high ethical and moral standards, who do well in school, who are accomplished but modest, people who give time and money to charitable causes, regardless of whether there is a tax deduction coming. And ask yourself WHY these folks are extraordinary.

Usually, there is a religious tradition in the family. It's not a coincidence.

Cannot agree that people are intrinsically evil, I would posit that people can be evil sometimes but for the most part not so much. I've done some things I wish I hadn't when I was younger, usually when I lost my temper. But in time I matured (somewhat) and realized such words and deeds were not the kind of things I wanted to be known for. Most of us I think are molded by the circumstances we face from an early age on up, and so much does depend on the learning we get from parents, family, teachers, etc. Religion can be a big part of that, even for those of us who no longer profess to believe in God or Religion still had that upbringing while we were young. Most of us anyway, not so sure about today's youngsters though, like the little girls mentioned in the OP. Who's teaching them how to act and treat other people?

PS: it ain't only the Russians.
 
My grand-daughter is being "bullied" in pre-school. Other little girls mock her because she was wait-listed for a field trip to an ice cream emporium. And that's not all. It is routine.

People are evil. Unless an intervening force turns them around (partly or entirely) they will lie, cheat, and steal according to (a) the chances that they will get caught, and (b) the likely ramifications of being caught. Call it "original sin" if you must.

Note that there is nothing virtuous about not doing wrong when the likelihood of being caught is high or the ramifications dire.

Look at situations, cultures, and environments where parenting is lacking and the kids almost all and almost always turn out bad. This is the endemic problem with mother-led, single-parent households and the boys that come out of them. There is no sufficiently strong influence to turn them away from their natural hedonistic, selfish, vicious tendencies.

Look around the world at all the Russian emigres who are involved in major crime organizations of all kinds. Russia just came out of a situation where kids were taken from their parents and raised by a godless state FOR GENERATIONS. Is it any wonder that they are at the forefront of porn, countless scams, and international cyber-crime?

We should always be on the lookout for people and groups of people who are conspicuously virtuous: people who have high ethical and moral standards, who do well in school, who are accomplished but modest, people who give time and money to charitable causes, regardless of whether there is a tax deduction coming. And ask yourself WHY these folks are extraordinary.

Usually, there is a religious tradition in the family. It's not a coincidence.
What many call “evil” is really nothing more than humans acting according to their basic animal instincts. And humans are indeed animals. And like all other animals we can all be counted on to act in our own best interest, and for our own benefit. Humans would call this selfishness. In the animal kingdom we call it survival...
 
My grand-daughter is being "bullied" in pre-school. Other little girls mock her because she was wait-listed for a field trip to an ice cream emporium. And that's not all. It is routine.

People are evil. Unless an intervening force turns them around (partly or entirely) they will lie, cheat, and steal according to (a) the chances that they will get caught, and (b) the likely ramifications of being caught. Call it "original sin" if you must.

Note that there is nothing virtuous about not doing wrong when the likelihood of being caught is high or the ramifications dire.

Look at situations, cultures, and environments where parenting is lacking and the kids almost all and almost always turn out bad. This is the endemic problem with mother-led, single-parent households and the boys that come out of them. There is no sufficiently strong influence to turn them away from their natural hedonistic, selfish, vicious tendencies.

Look around the world at all the Russian emigres who are involved in major crime organizations of all kinds. Russia just came out of a situation where kids were taken from their parents and raised by a godless state FOR GENERATIONS. Is it any wonder that they are at the forefront of porn, countless scams, and international cyber-crime?

We should always be on the lookout for people and groups of people who are conspicuously virtuous: people who have high ethical and moral standards, who do well in school, who are accomplished but modest, people who give time and money to charitable causes, regardless of whether there is a tax deduction coming. And ask yourself WHY these folks are extraordinary.

Usually, there is a religious tradition in the family. It's not a coincidence.
What many call “evil” is really nothing more than humans acting according to their basic animal instincts. And humans are indeed animals. And like all other animals we can all be counted on to act in our own best interest, and for our own benefit. Humans would call this selfishness. In the animal kingdom we call it survival...

Hard to classify little girls bullying another little girl as a survival instinct. How were their best interests and benefits enhanced by such actions? Looks to me like intentional harm being done for no acceptable reason. Sounds evil to me.
 
My grand-daughter is being "bullied" in pre-school. Other little girls mock her because she was wait-listed for a field trip to an ice cream emporium. And that's not all. It is routine.

People are evil. Unless an intervening force turns them around (partly or entirely) they will lie, cheat, and steal according to (a) the chances that they will get caught, and (b) the likely ramifications of being caught. Call it "original sin" if you must.

Note that there is nothing virtuous about not doing wrong when the likelihood of being caught is high or the ramifications dire.

Look at situations, cultures, and environments where parenting is lacking and the kids almost all and almost always turn out bad. This is the endemic problem with mother-led, single-parent households and the boys that come out of them. There is no sufficiently strong influence to turn them away from their natural hedonistic, selfish, vicious tendencies.

Look around the world at all the Russian emigres who are involved in major crime organizations of all kinds. Russia just came out of a situation where kids were taken from their parents and raised by a godless state FOR GENERATIONS. Is it any wonder that they are at the forefront of porn, countless scams, and international cyber-crime?

We should always be on the lookout for people and groups of people who are conspicuously virtuous: people who have high ethical and moral standards, who do well in school, who are accomplished but modest, people who give time and money to charitable causes, regardless of whether there is a tax deduction coming. And ask yourself WHY these folks are extraordinary.

Usually, there is a religious tradition in the family. It's not a coincidence.
What many call “evil” is really nothing more than humans acting according to their basic animal instincts. And humans are indeed animals. And like all other animals we can all be counted on to act in our own best interest, and for our own benefit. Humans would call this selfishness. In the animal kingdom we call it survival...

Hard to classify little girls bullying another little girl as a survival instinct. How were their best interests and benefits enhanced by such actions? Looks to me like intentional harm being done for no acceptable reason. Sounds evil to me.
Social dominance play. Very basic stuff...
 
My grand-daughter is being "bullied" in pre-school. Other little girls mock her because she was wait-listed for a field trip to an ice cream emporium. And that's not all. It is routine.

People are evil. Unless an intervening force turns them around (partly or entirely) they will lie, cheat, and steal according to (a) the chances that they will get caught, and (b) the likely ramifications of being caught. Call it "original sin" if you must.

Note that there is nothing virtuous about not doing wrong when the likelihood of being caught is high or the ramifications dire.

Look at situations, cultures, and environments where parenting is lacking and the kids almost all and almost always turn out bad. This is the endemic problem with mother-led, single-parent households and the boys that come out of them. There is no sufficiently strong influence to turn them away from their natural hedonistic, selfish, vicious tendencies.

Look around the world at all the Russian emigres who are involved in major crime organizations of all kinds. Russia just came out of a situation where kids were taken from their parents and raised by a godless state FOR GENERATIONS. Is it any wonder that they are at the forefront of porn, countless scams, and international cyber-crime?

We should always be on the lookout for people and groups of people who are conspicuously virtuous: people who have high ethical and moral standards, who do well in school, who are accomplished but modest, people who give time and money to charitable causes, regardless of whether there is a tax deduction coming. And ask yourself WHY these folks are extraordinary.

Usually, there is a religious tradition in the family. It's not a coincidence.
What many call “evil” is really nothing more than humans acting according to their basic animal instincts. And humans are indeed animals. And like all other animals we can all be counted on to act in our own best interest, and for our own benefit. Humans would call this selfishness. In the animal kingdom we call it survival...

Hard to classify little girls bullying another little girl as a survival instinct. How were their best interests and benefits enhanced by such actions? Looks to me like intentional harm being done for no acceptable reason. Sounds evil to me.
Social dominance play. Very basic stuff...

Are you suggesting that this kind of 'social dominance play' is acceptable? What other species bullies their young for social dominance? In the animal kingdom, social dominance is basically done for reproductive purposes among adult males, to ensure the best genes get passed on to the next generation. These days, humans don't do much of that, especially between little girls.
 
My grand-daughter is being "bullied" in pre-school. Other little girls mock her because she was wait-listed for a field trip to an ice cream emporium. And that's not all. It is routine.

People are evil. Unless an intervening force turns them around (partly or entirely) they will lie, cheat, and steal according to (a) the chances that they will get caught, and (b) the likely ramifications of being caught. Call it "original sin" if you must.

Note that there is nothing virtuous about not doing wrong when the likelihood of being caught is high or the ramifications dire.

Look at situations, cultures, and environments where parenting is lacking and the kids almost all and almost always turn out bad. This is the endemic problem with mother-led, single-parent households and the boys that come out of them. There is no sufficiently strong influence to turn them away from their natural hedonistic, selfish, vicious tendencies.

Look around the world at all the Russian emigres who are involved in major crime organizations of all kinds. Russia just came out of a situation where kids were taken from their parents and raised by a godless state FOR GENERATIONS. Is it any wonder that they are at the forefront of porn, countless scams, and international cyber-crime?

We should always be on the lookout for people and groups of people who are conspicuously virtuous: people who have high ethical and moral standards, who do well in school, who are accomplished but modest, people who give time and money to charitable causes, regardless of whether there is a tax deduction coming. And ask yourself WHY these folks are extraordinary.

Usually, there is a religious tradition in the family. It's not a coincidence.
What many call “evil” is really nothing more than humans acting according to their basic animal instincts. And humans are indeed animals. And like all other animals we can all be counted on to act in our own best interest, and for our own benefit. Humans would call this selfishness. In the animal kingdom we call it survival...

Hard to classify little girls bullying another little girl as a survival instinct. How were their best interests and benefits enhanced by such actions? Looks to me like intentional harm being done for no acceptable reason. Sounds evil to me.
Social dominance play. Very basic stuff...

Are you suggesting that this kind of 'social dominance play' is acceptable? What other species bullies their young for social dominance? In the animal kingdom, social dominance is basically done for reproductive purposes among adult males, to ensure the best genes get passed on to the next generation. These days, humans don't do much of that, especially between little girls.
Acceptability has nothing to do with it. I’m stating that it’s perfectly natural, and to be expected.
 
My grand-daughter is being "bullied" in pre-school. Other little girls mock her because she was wait-listed for a field trip to an ice cream emporium. And that's not all. It is routine.

People are evil. Unless an intervening force turns them around (partly or entirely) they will lie, cheat, and steal according to (a) the chances that they will get caught, and (b) the likely ramifications of being caught. Call it "original sin" if you must.

Note that there is nothing virtuous about not doing wrong when the likelihood of being caught is high or the ramifications dire.

Look at situations, cultures, and environments where parenting is lacking and the kids almost all and almost always turn out bad. This is the endemic problem with mother-led, single-parent households and the boys that come out of them. There is no sufficiently strong influence to turn them away from their natural hedonistic, selfish, vicious tendencies.

Look around the world at all the Russian emigres who are involved in major crime organizations of all kinds. Russia just came out of a situation where kids were taken from their parents and raised by a godless state FOR GENERATIONS. Is it any wonder that they are at the forefront of porn, countless scams, and international cyber-crime?

We should always be on the lookout for people and groups of people who are conspicuously virtuous: people who have high ethical and moral standards, who do well in school, who are accomplished but modest, people who give time and money to charitable causes, regardless of whether there is a tax deduction coming. And ask yourself WHY these folks are extraordinary.

Usually, there is a religious tradition in the family. It's not a coincidence.
What many call “evil” is really nothing more than humans acting according to their basic animal instincts. And humans are indeed animals. And like all other animals we can all be counted on to act in our own best interest, and for our own benefit. Humans would call this selfishness. In the animal kingdom we call it survival...

Hard to classify little girls bullying another little girl as a survival instinct. How were their best interests and benefits enhanced by such actions? Looks to me like intentional harm being done for no acceptable reason. Sounds evil to me.
Social dominance play. Very basic stuff...

Are you suggesting that this kind of 'social dominance play' is acceptable? What other species bullies their young for social dominance? In the animal kingdom, social dominance is basically done for reproductive purposes among adult males, to ensure the best genes get passed on to the next generation. These days, humans don't do much of that, especially between little girls.
You’ve never observed a litter of puppies, or kittens I see...
 
Humans would call this selfishness. In the animal kingdom we call it survival...

I would disagree with the distinction between animals and humans that humans are animals any different than a tiger is an animal where the terms are not interchangeable, selfishness and survival ... humanity can be selfish where few others are be it survival or not.
 
Humans would call this selfishness. In the animal kingdom we call it survival...

I would disagree with the distinction between animals and humans that humans are animals any different than a tiger is an animal where the terms are not interchangeable, selfishness and survival ... humanity can be selfish where few others are be it survival or not.
That’s because we are smart enough to see advantage lesser animals might not recognize... It’s just a matter of intelligence.
 
My grand-daughter is being "bullied" in pre-school. Other little girls mock her because she was wait-listed for a field trip to an ice cream emporium. And that's not all. It is routine.

People are evil. Unless an intervening force turns them around (partly or entirely) they will lie, cheat, and steal according to (a) the chances that they will get caught, and (b) the likely ramifications of being caught. Call it "original sin" if you must.

Note that there is nothing virtuous about not doing wrong when the likelihood of being caught is high or the ramifications dire.

Look at situations, cultures, and environments where parenting is lacking and the kids almost all and almost always turn out bad. This is the endemic problem with mother-led, single-parent households and the boys that come out of them. There is no sufficiently strong influence to turn them away from their natural hedonistic, selfish, vicious tendencies.

Look around the world at all the Russian emigres who are involved in major crime organizations of all kinds. Russia just came out of a situation where kids were taken from their parents and raised by a godless state FOR GENERATIONS. Is it any wonder that they are at the forefront of porn, countless scams, and international cyber-crime?

We should always be on the lookout for people and groups of people who are conspicuously virtuous: people who have high ethical and moral standards, who do well in school, who are accomplished but modest, people who give time and money to charitable causes, regardless of whether there is a tax deduction coming. And ask yourself WHY these folks are extraordinary.

Usually, there is a religious tradition in the family. It's not a coincidence.
What many call “evil” is really nothing more than humans acting according to their basic animal instincts. And humans are indeed animals. And like all other animals we can all be counted on to act in our own best interest, and for our own benefit. Humans would call this selfishness. In the animal kingdom we call it survival...

Hard to classify little girls bullying another little girl as a survival instinct. How were their best interests and benefits enhanced by such actions? Looks to me like intentional harm being done for no acceptable reason. Sounds evil to me.
Social dominance play. Very basic stuff...

Are you suggesting that this kind of 'social dominance play' is acceptable? What other species bullies their young for social dominance? In the animal kingdom, social dominance is basically done for reproductive purposes among adult males, to ensure the best genes get passed on to the next generation. These days, humans don't do much of that, especially between little girls.
Acceptability has nothing to do with it. I’m stating that it’s perfectly natural, and to be expected.

Bullshit. I noticed you avoided my questions; you really think bullying is perfectly natural and to be expected? Let me guess, you're a democrat.
 
My grand-daughter is being "bullied" in pre-school. Other little girls mock her because she was wait-listed for a field trip to an ice cream emporium. And that's not all. It is routine.

People are evil. Unless an intervening force turns them around (partly or entirely) they will lie, cheat, and steal according to (a) the chances that they will get caught, and (b) the likely ramifications of being caught. Call it "original sin" if you must.

Note that there is nothing virtuous about not doing wrong when the likelihood of being caught is high or the ramifications dire.

Look at situations, cultures, and environments where parenting is lacking and the kids almost all and almost always turn out bad. This is the endemic problem with mother-led, single-parent households and the boys that come out of them. There is no sufficiently strong influence to turn them away from their natural hedonistic, selfish, vicious tendencies.

Look around the world at all the Russian emigres who are involved in major crime organizations of all kinds. Russia just came out of a situation where kids were taken from their parents and raised by a godless state FOR GENERATIONS. Is it any wonder that they are at the forefront of porn, countless scams, and international cyber-crime?

We should always be on the lookout for people and groups of people who are conspicuously virtuous: people who have high ethical and moral standards, who do well in school, who are accomplished but modest, people who give time and money to charitable causes, regardless of whether there is a tax deduction coming. And ask yourself WHY these folks are extraordinary.

Usually, there is a religious tradition in the family. It's not a coincidence.
What many call “evil” is really nothing more than humans acting according to their basic animal instincts. And humans are indeed animals. And like all other animals we can all be counted on to act in our own best interest, and for our own benefit. Humans would call this selfishness. In the animal kingdom we call it survival...

Hard to classify little girls bullying another little girl as a survival instinct. How were their best interests and benefits enhanced by such actions? Looks to me like intentional harm being done for no acceptable reason. Sounds evil to me.
Social dominance play. Very basic stuff...

Are you suggesting that this kind of 'social dominance play' is acceptable? What other species bullies their young for social dominance? In the animal kingdom, social dominance is basically done for reproductive purposes among adult males, to ensure the best genes get passed on to the next generation. These days, humans don't do much of that, especially between little girls.
You’ve never observed a litter of puppies, or kittens I see...

Matter of fact I have, and I really don't think what they do is anywhere close to bullying. Or do you really think what they're doing is intentional harmful?
 
What many call “evil” is really nothing more than humans acting according to their basic animal instincts. And humans are indeed animals. And like all other animals we can all be counted on to act in our own best interest, and for our own benefit. Humans would call this selfishness. In the animal kingdom we call it survival...

Hard to classify little girls bullying another little girl as a survival instinct. How were their best interests and benefits enhanced by such actions? Looks to me like intentional harm being done for no acceptable reason. Sounds evil to me.
Social dominance play. Very basic stuff...

Are you suggesting that this kind of 'social dominance play' is acceptable? What other species bullies their young for social dominance? In the animal kingdom, social dominance is basically done for reproductive purposes among adult males, to ensure the best genes get passed on to the next generation. These days, humans don't do much of that, especially between little girls.
Acceptability has nothing to do with it. I’m stating that it’s perfectly natural, and to be expected.

Bullshit. I noticed you avoided my questions; you really think bullying is perfectly natural and to be expected? Let me guess, you're a democrat.
Yes. It’s perfectly natural. That’s why all languages have a name for it. And the act has been recorded throughout all of recorded history as common behavior. And it surely goes back further than that.
And no... I’m not a Democrat.
 
What many call “evil” is really nothing more than humans acting according to their basic animal instincts. And humans are indeed animals. And like all other animals we can all be counted on to act in our own best interest, and for our own benefit. Humans would call this selfishness. In the animal kingdom we call it survival...

Hard to classify little girls bullying another little girl as a survival instinct. How were their best interests and benefits enhanced by such actions? Looks to me like intentional harm being done for no acceptable reason. Sounds evil to me.
Social dominance play. Very basic stuff...

Are you suggesting that this kind of 'social dominance play' is acceptable? What other species bullies their young for social dominance? In the animal kingdom, social dominance is basically done for reproductive purposes among adult males, to ensure the best genes get passed on to the next generation. These days, humans don't do much of that, especially between little girls.
You’ve never observed a litter of puppies, or kittens I see...

Matter of fact I have, and I really don't think what they do is anywhere close to bullying. Or do you really think what they're doing is intentional harmful?
Just because you don’t think so; doesn’t make it, or prevent it from being so...
 
Humans would call this selfishness. In the animal kingdom we call it survival...

I would disagree with the distinction between animals and humans that humans are animals any different than a tiger is an animal where the terms are not interchangeable, selfishness and survival ... humanity can be selfish where few others are be it survival or not.
That’s because we are smart enough to see advantage lesser animals might not recognize... It’s just a matter of intelligence.
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That’s because we are smart enough to see advantage lesser animals might not recognize... It’s just a matter of intelligence.

for shame -


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we'll put you in a room with the above and let the more intelligent one be the winner ....

in certain matters each being has an intelligence superior than those around them.
 
Humans would call this selfishness. In the animal kingdom we call it survival...

I would disagree with the distinction between animals and humans that humans are animals any different than a tiger is an animal where the terms are not interchangeable, selfishness and survival ... humanity can be selfish where few others are be it survival or not.
That’s because we are smart enough to see advantage lesser animals might not recognize... It’s just a matter of intelligence.
.
That’s because we are smart enough to see advantage lesser animals might not recognize... It’s just a matter of intelligence.

for shame -


images



we'll put you in a room with the above and let the more intelligent one be the winner ....

in certain matters each being has an intelligence superior than those around them.
I’d give him the worst heartburn he’s ever had!
 

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