How to fix the illegal immigration problem.

Discussion in 'Immigration/Illegal Immigration' started by LilOlLady, Dec 31, 2011.

  1. LilOlLady
    Offline

    LilOlLady Gold Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2009
    Messages:
    7,841
    Thanks Received:
    660
    Trophy Points:
    140
    Location:
    Reno, NV
    Ratings:
    +761
    HOW TO FIX THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION PROBLEM.

    GOP say secure the border first and then deal with the 12-20 that are here humanely. What is humane for Illegal Aliens may not be humane for Americans. Democrats say put them on a path to citizenship with a fine for punishment. Others say round them up and put them on busses, etc and deport them. The border is as secure as it’s going to be because without dealing with the incentives that bring them here. We have tried amnesty and that did not work. Obama has deported 1.3 million since he took office which is a record for deportation since Operation Wet Back. Only way to deal with illegal immigration is to cut off the incentives that bring them here and allows them to stay. The incentives are jobs, free healthcare and Automatic Birthright Citizenship for children of Illegal Aliens. Securing the border, a path to citizenship and a deportation round up is only patch work on a 50 year old quilt. If the E-Verify is made mandatory with fines for business to check immigration status of all employers they will not be able to work and they will leave with their under age anchor babies and they will not come and leaving their anchor babies behind for tax payers to take care of is not an option, making securing the border a reality. It is not inhumane for them to return to their homeland but it’s compassion because it re-unite families that have been left behind for many years. Then set up a real temporary work program and make it work. A guest worker program will not work if illegal immigration of cheap labor continues.
    So far, no one in the past 50 years, including Obama, has not been serious about solving the illegal immigration problem.
    The economy will not collapse is Illegal Aliens left because unemployed Americans will take those jobs. There is no jobs that hard working Americans will not do. And we are not talking about farm work because less than 1% or Illegal Aliens workers are working on farms.
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  2. Truthseeker420
    Offline

    Truthseeker420 Gold Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2011
    Messages:
    10,365
    Thanks Received:
    980
    Trophy Points:
    138
    Location:
    Home of the 2013 BCS National Champion
    Ratings:
    +1,026
    The ONLY.. I repeat the ONLY way to stop Illegal immigration is to hold the corporations that hire them responsible but since corporations control America I don't see that....
     
  3. LilOlLady
    Offline

    LilOlLady Gold Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2009
    Messages:
    7,841
    Thanks Received:
    660
    Trophy Points:
    140
    Location:
    Reno, NV
    Ratings:
    +761
    There has to be someone out there that will put ameicans before corporations. And I believe that man is Ron Paul. As close as we can get.
     
  4. Truthseeker420
    Offline

    Truthseeker420 Gold Member

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2011
    Messages:
    10,365
    Thanks Received:
    980
    Trophy Points:
    138
    Location:
    Home of the 2013 BCS National Champion
    Ratings:
    +1,026
    I would vote for Ron Paul. I don't agree with everything he says but....
     
  5. C_Clayton_Jones
    Offline

    C_Clayton_Jones Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2011
    Messages:
    41,543
    Thanks Received:
    8,933
    Trophy Points:
    2,030
    Location:
    In a Republic, actually
    Ratings:
    +23,869
    For many it’s not a ‘problem,’ ask the growers in Florida.

    Incorrect.

    This issue isn’t difficulty of work alone but its poor wages and lack of advancement, they are indeed ‘dead-end’ jobs.

    You and others obsess over this issue far too much, as jobs and the economy are of paramount concern now – once the economy is recovered and unemployment below 5 percent, then the issue may take its appropriate place among other matters.
     
    Last edited: Dec 31, 2011
  6. LilOlLady
    Offline

    LilOlLady Gold Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2009
    Messages:
    7,841
    Thanks Received:
    660
    Trophy Points:
    140
    Location:
    Reno, NV
    Ratings:
    +761
    There are lots of American that have those "dead end" jobs and go quite well. Even flipping burgers are not a "dead end" job. Janitors and garbage collecters, domestic workers make a good salary for a person with limited skills and America has a lot of them.
    Everyone cannot even get a highschool deploma and not have the smarts to go to college. You need to stop believing that lie that there are "jobs Americans will not do."
    There are some jobs American have to do.
     
  7. jerryh60
    Offline

    jerryh60 Immigration911 minuteman

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2011
    Messages:
    74
    Thanks Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Location:
    Texas
    Ratings:
    +5
    I think the National E-Verify has to be the first step. Once you remove the incentives to come here, you can start dealing with the other issues. Will it ever come to pass? Who knows
     
  8. LilOlLady
    Offline

    LilOlLady Gold Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2009
    Messages:
    7,841
    Thanks Received:
    660
    Trophy Points:
    140
    Location:
    Reno, NV
    Ratings:
    +761


    The growers in Florida can get all the farm workers they want under the H2-A Visa Program.Many Americans are working those "dead end" jobs to make end meet. FYI we do have a group of under or low skilled workers who just just want a job.


    My daughter work one of those dead end jobs to supplement her income. She baby sit every weekend and during the week for an attorney. Many Americans do.
    Illegal aliens don't want to do those dead end jobs either because only 6% is working on the farms and that is why farmers are always short of workers even though there are 8 million in the work force. And WTF is the other 12 million doing? Dealing in drugs and committing other crimes?
     
    Last edited: Jan 3, 2012
  9. High_Gravity
    Offline

    High_Gravity Belligerent Drunk Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2010
    Messages:
    40,159
    Thanks Received:
    6,894
    Trophy Points:
    260
    Location:
    Richmond VA
    Ratings:
    +7,726
    What would Ron Paul do about illegal immigration?
     
  10. jerryh60
    Offline

    jerryh60 Immigration911 minuteman

    Joined:
    Sep 12, 2011
    Messages:
    74
    Thanks Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Location:
    Texas
    Ratings:
    +5
    Numbersusa has a report card report on all presidential hopefuls on exactly where they stand on this issue. You need to check them out and it tells you how your representatives are voting on those issues. It's strictly an immigration issues site.
     

Share This Page

Search tags for this page

how to fix the illegal immigration problem