How to fix the illegal immigration problem.

[Katzndogz]

There is a simple solution. It worked for many years. Stop baring the nipple for them to suck off of.

 

[Cuyo]

The solution:
Secure the border with armed military ( I would start with 300,000 armed soldiers).

The use every measure possible to identify every single illegal--arrest them--and then deport them immediately.Any person ( not businesses or corporations--but every individual) caught hiring an illegal must serve jail time.

Do way with the birthright law.
Do away with chain migration.

Do away with all so-called guest worker programs.
Do away with greencards.
Have very extreme rules for any visitor visa( many illegals come from those who were given a visitor's visa --and then they never went back home aftyer their visit).

Ya guys don't get it. That would collapse the frickin' economy.

An immigrant is a provider and a consumer, god I don't know how many times I have to state this. They pay taxes whether directly or indirectly. They contribute to their local economies. They pay rent and occupy housing, purchase from local businesses, and work, thereby making profits for the boss to spend. They are, from an economic standpoint, no different from organic population growth.

This is not that complex of an issue. It's exactly why every single incoming administration has these big plans to solve this perceived 'Problem,' but nothing. ever. happens.

There are trouble makers among them of course, and if you think about it, it's better to have them remain 'illegal.' Once they're suspected of a crime, no due process is necessary - Because they are, after all, here illegally. You can deport them same day with no trial or anything.

The system we have is the way it is for a reason.

Ya guys are talking about building walls and stationing troops on the border? As if the 'Problem' is that we can't find them? You fuckin kiddin' me? Walls? If anyone with any power really wanted to get rid of them, they could just make mandatory jail time for hiring them and guess what? Illegals gone overnight, wouldn't cost a dime.

 

[Unkotare]

Isolationism is stupid, but so is pretending that illegal immigration is not a very serious problem.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

HOW TO FIX THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION PROBLEM.

GOP say secure the border first and then deal with the 12-20 that are here humanely. What is humane for Illegal Aliens may not be humane for Americans. Democrats say put them on a path to citizenship with a fine for punishment. Others say round them up and put them on busses, etc and deport them. The border is as secure as it’s going to be because without dealing with the incentives that bring them here. We have tried amnesty and that did not work. Obama has deported 1.3 million since he took office which is a record for deportation since Operation Wet Back. Only way to deal with illegal immigration is to cut off the incentives that bring them here and allows them to stay. The incentives are jobs, free healthcare and Automatic Birthright Citizenship for children of Illegal Aliens. Securing the border, a path to citizenship and a deportation round up is only patch work on a 50 year old quilt. If the E-Verify is made mandatory with fines for business to check immigration status of all employers they will not be able to work and they will leave with their under age anchor babies and they will not come and leaving their anchor babies behind for tax payers to take care of is not an option, making securing the border a reality. It is not inhumane for them to return to their homeland but it’s compassion because it re-unite families that have been left behind for many years. Then set up a real temporary work program and make it work. A guest worker program will not work if illegal immigration of cheap labor continues.
So far, no one in the past 50 years, including Obama, has not been serious about solving the illegal immigration problem.
The economy will not collapse is Illegal Aliens left because unemployed Americans will take those jobs. There is no jobs that hard working Americans will not do. And we are not talking about farm work because less than 1% or Illegal Aliens workers are working on farms.

Those areas that really help to encourage illegal immigration in this country are: Sanctuary City sympathizers, states that offer free education and driving privileges, companies that take advantage of cheap labor, and a federal Government that looks to their own self interests through "party politics" as a means to retain government power over enforcing Federal Immigration Laws. That being said, enforcement of Federal Laws and securing the border has to be the top concern of those in Washington D.C. Not simply to stop the reoccurance of hispanic immigrants from entering this country illegally, but it becomes especially important to track those individuals that come here in the face of Islamic terrorism. Those states that support Sanctuary Cities, that protect illegals and become a hindrance to Federal enforcement, should have their Federal Funding pulled until they can show they are complying with Federal Immigration laws - no exceptions. Owners of corporations that are caught hiring illegals for employment, should face a fine per EACH illegal immigrant they hire, penalties that double with a second offense.

When it comes to HOW to handle the millions of illegal immigrants that are already well established in our way of life with integrated families and further children that are born here, many feel the need to be compassionate over the issue. The argument is that the Federal Government should not take the position of tearing up families for the sake of upholding the law. However, there are also immigrants from other parts of the world that must be considered as well. Individuals who also find themselves seperated from their loved ones, many for years, who actually go through the efforts to persue the prolonged and rather demanding procedure to provide them with citizenship through the due process of the law. Due to the later, I can not find any justification in providing compassion to those who took it upon themselves to willfully choose to break the law. To grant these hispanics with simple "amnesty" is to mock the very system many look to in obtaining United States citizenship. The system to obtain legal status must be fair for all, without prejudice or showing any form of favoritism towards a particular group of people.

The only way to treat this immigration problem is to have those who have already established themselves here in the United States illegally, follow the same penalties and deportation procedures that befalls illegals from other european/asian countries caught here without proper documentation or expired visas. No exceptions, no favoritism.

 

[beagle9]

So far, no one in the past 50 years, including Obama, has been serious about solving the illegal immigration problem.

For many it’s not a ‘problem,’ ask the growers in Florida.

Wasn't the stat already covered about the farm labor, where as it is listed as being just less than 1% who are working on farms, otherwise the proper guest worker program would suffice enough for this?

Incorrect. This issue isn’t difficulty of work alone but its poor wages and lack of advancement, they are indeed ‘dead-end’ jobs. You and others obsess over this issue far too much, as jobs and the economy are of paramount concern now – once the economy is recovered and unemployment below 5 percent, then the issue may take its appropriate place among other matters.

It is impossible to adress the job's problem in America, if the illegal problem isn't also adressed along with it.

 

[AmericaFirst88]

They come here for a better life, ie a job. If we helped their countries improve economically, instead of trying to be the world's police force, then those countries might have more jobs to offer their people, and they wouldn't have any need to come here. But instead we want to spend millions on building and defending a wall. Rather than helping our neighbors, we just shut the gate.

 

[LilOlLady]

They come here for a better life, ie a job. If we helped their countries improve economically, instead of trying to be the world's police force, then those countries might have more jobs to offer their people, and they wouldn't have any need to come here. But instead we want to spend millions on building and defending a wall. Rather than helping our neighbors, we just shut the gate.

We send $10 billion to Mexica annually and we let millions of Mexican work and send billions more to Mexico. How much more help do they need. We need invade Mexico and clean it's corruption up. Mexico has more than enough resources to provide jobs for it's people but why should they when we do it for them. What they really need is no help and they will learn to help themself and keep their people home to work and contribute to their economy.

Illegal immigration must be stopped - Opinion - Sonoma State Star - Sonoma State University



Strict Immigration Laws ‘Save Denmark Billions’
The illegals cost us billions and they in turn send billions to Mexico. We are not only supporting them here we are supporting Mexico.

Strict Immigration Laws ‘Save Denmark Billions’ | Conservative Heritage Times

 

[Unkotare]

They come here for a better life, ie a job. If we helped their countries improve economically, instead of trying to be the world's police force, then those countries might have more jobs to offer their people, and they wouldn't have any need to come here. But instead we want to spend millions on building and defending a wall. Rather than helping our neighbors, we just shut the gate.

Was it difficult for you to fit so much WRONG into one post like that?

 

[Unkotare]

We need invade Mexico and clean it's corruption up.

Do you really, really think so? Don't be stupid.

 

[Stephanie]

oh dear, I wonder how many will now accuse LilOlady of being a racist for even talking about this?

where's NEWSONE and Huffington Post when you need them?

 

[High_Gravity]

We need invade Mexico and clean it's corruption up.

Do you really, really think so? Don't be stupid.

If we invade Mexico we will have so many Mexican refugees coming into our country it will make the illegal alien problem we have now look like a picnic.

 

[Ropey]

We need invade Mexico and clean it's corruption up.

Do you really, really think so? Don't be stupid.

If we invade Mexico we will have so many Mexican refugees coming into our country it will make the illegal alien problem we have now look like a picnic.

Oh, yes. There's no going back from that forward step into a large bucket of refuse...

 

[High_Gravity]

Do you really, really think so? Don't be stupid.

If we invade Mexico we will have so many Mexican refugees coming into our country it will make the illegal alien problem we have now look like a picnic.

Oh, yes. There's no going back from that forward step into a large bucket of refuse...

Iraq can be an example for what I talked about, when we invaded Iraq all hell broke loose and Iraqs neighbors had to take in hundreds of thousands of Iraqi refugees, that is basically what would happen here except worse because we are the only country that they will come to.

 

[Ropey]

If we invade Mexico we will have so many Mexican refugees coming into our country it will make the illegal alien problem we have now look like a picnic.

Oh, yes. There's no going back from that forward step into a large bucket of refuse...

Iraq can be an example for what I talked about, when we invaded Iraq all hell broke loose and Iraqs neighbors had to take in hundreds of thousands of Iraqi refugees, that is basically what would happen here except worse because we are the only country that they will come to.

Tribal affiliations would have to be smashed. I don't see how this will occur.

 

[texasdon]

The solution:
Secure the border with armed military ( I would start with 300,000 armed soldiers).

The use every measure possible to identify every single illegal--arrest them--and then deport them immediately.Any person ( not businesses or corporations--but every individual) caught hiring an illegal must serve jail time.

Do way with the birthright law.
Do away with chain migration.

Do away with all so-called guest worker programs.
Do away with greencards.
Have very extreme rules for any visitor visa( many illegals come from those who were given a visitor's visa --and then they never went back home aftyer their visit).

Ya guys don't get it. That would collapse the frickin' economy.

An immigrant is a provider and a consumer, god I don't know how many times I have to state this. They pay taxes whether directly or indirectly. They contribute to their local economies. They pay rent and occupy housing, purchase from local businesses, and work, thereby making profits for the boss to spend. They are, from an economic standpoint, no different from organic population growth.

This is not that complex of an issue. It's exactly why every single incoming administration has these big plans to solve this perceived 'Problem,' but nothing. ever. happens.

There are trouble makers among them of course, and if you think about it, it's better to have them remain 'illegal.' Once they're suspected of a crime, no due process is necessary - Because they are, after all, here illegally. You can deport them same day with no trial or anything.

The system we have is the way it is for a reason.

Ya guys are talking about building walls and stationing troops on the border? As if the 'Problem' is that we can't find them? You fuckin kiddin' me? Walls? If anyone with any power really wanted to get rid of them, they could just make mandatory jail time for hiring them and guess what? Illegals gone overnight, wouldn't cost a dime.

Evidently you have not keep up with our laws and our Constitution.The laws on the books says it is illegal to come to this country without papers.What part of this do you not understand ? The law also states that it is a felony to give any aid at all to any illegal.What part of this do not understand? Our Constitution states that it is the job of the Federal government to protect the states from invasion.With over 11 millions illegals here ( I think there are probably 30 million) then we have definitely been invaded --but the federal government does nothing.What part of this do you not understand? I think you need to go back to school and start over!!!

 

[Oldstyle]

Elect Barry to another 4 years.

People only want to come here because they can make more in America than they can where they came from. Barry is doing his level best to change that. A few more years of his policies and Americans won't have to worry about illegal aliens.

 

[starcraftzzz]

Illegal immigrants pay more in taxes then they get in benefits they also contribute tot he economy Alabama new anti immigration law has cost the state 6% of its GDP. It would cost 300 billion to deport 10million illeglas.

 

[Unkotare]

Illegal immigrants pay more in taxes then they get in benefits they also contribute tot he economy Alabama new anti immigration law has cost the state 6% of its GDP. It would cost 300 billion to deport 10million illeglas.

Bullshit. Link?

 

[starcraftzzz]

Illegal immigrants pay more in taxes then they get in benefits they also contribute tot he economy Alabama new anti immigration law has cost the state 6% of its GDP. It would cost 300 billion to deport 10million illeglas.

Bullshit. Link?

Reason Foundation - Illegal Immigrants are Paying a Lot More Taxes Than You Think
Illegal immigrants contribute a net 80,000 dollars in taxes over their lifetime. Meaning the 12 million illegal immigrants currently in America will contribute 1 trillion more dollars in taxes than they receive in benefits. Illegal immigrants still pay all state/local taxes (including sales and property) while paying some income taxes (some are paid under the table). Since illegal immigrants enter the country during their working years they do not cost the government in education costs. Also sine illegal immigrants are legally unable to get SS, Medicare or other social benefits they do not cost the government any money in those matters.

http://www.americanprogress.org/kf/deporting_the_undocumented.pdf
^It would cost 300 billion over 5 years to deport 10 million illegal immigrants.


Study predicts $1.5 trillion increase in GDP if undocumented immigrants are legalized. | ThinkProgress
^Legalizing immigrants would add 1.5 trillion to GDP in ten years due to higher wages and spending. It would also create 1 million jobs. Deporting illegal immigrants would reduce GDP by 2.6 trillion over ten years (not including the cost of deportation).

Alabama immigration crackdown costs state up to $11 bln: study - Yahoo! News
^Alabama’s anti-immigration law cost the state 11 billion dollars or 6% of its GDP