How the Dem Nanny State Destroys Lives

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    Profiting From a Child’s Illiteracy
    By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF
    Published: December 7, 2012

    JACKSON, Ky.

    THIS is what poverty sometimes looks like in America: parents here in Appalachian hill country pulling their children out of literacy classes. Moms and dads fear that if kids learn to read, they are less likely to qualify for a monthly check for having an intellectual disability.

    Many people in hillside mobile homes here are poor and desperate, and a $698 monthly check per child from the Supplemental Security Income program goes a long way — and those checks continue until the child turns 18.

    “The kids get taken out of the program because the parents are going to lose the check,” said Billie Oaks, who runs a literacy program here in Breathitt County, a poor part of Kentucky. “It’s heartbreaking.”

    This is painful for a liberal to admit, but conservatives have a point when they suggest that America’s safety net can sometimes entangle people in a soul-crushing dependency. Our poverty programs do rescue many people, but other times they backfire.

    Some young people here don’t join the military (a traditional escape route for poor, rural Americans) because it’s easier to rely on food stamps and disability payments.

    Antipoverty programs also discourage marriage: In a means-tested program like S.S.I., a woman raising a child may receive a bigger check if she refrains from marrying that hard-working guy she likes. Yet marriage is one of the best forces to blunt poverty. In married couple households only one child in 10 grows up in poverty, while almost half do in single-mother households.

    Most wrenching of all are the parents who think it’s best if a child stays illiterate, because then the family may be able to claim a disability check each month.

    “One of the ways you get on this program is having problems in school,” notes Richard V. Burkhauser, a Cornell University economist who co-wrote a book last year about these disability programs. “If you do better in school, you threaten the income of the parents. It’s a terrible incentive.”

    About four decades ago, most of the children S.S.I. covered had severe physical handicaps or mental retardation that made it difficult for parents to hold jobs — about 1 percent of all poor children. But now 55 percent of the disabilities it covers are fuzzier intellectual disabilities short of mental retardation, where the diagnosis is less clear-cut. More than 1.2 million children across America — a full 8 percent of all low-income children — are now enrolled in S.S.I. as disabled, at an annual cost of more than $9 billion.

    Full column here:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/09/o...-a-childs-illiteracy.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
     
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    Another fucker posting someone else's bullshit because she doesn't have an original thought in her head.
     
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    Another lib loser with nothing of substance to offer...

    A product of the Nanny State culture, no doubt.
     
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    every system set up with humans will have flaws that can be corrected with good policy.

    Only idiots claim doing good is bad because it sometimes has unintended effects.

    What smart people do is correct the unintended effects with better policy.

    Only idiots say "see you just shouldnt help people"
     
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    The "War on Poverty" has only kept inner city minorities in a constant state of dependency. Democrats, who are wed to unions, have blocked every attempt to help folks educate themselves, and lift themselves up by making it SO easy to just stay home shooting drugs, popping out kids and collecting more and more gov't checks.

    Dems also block school vouchers that would give poor folks school choice because you care more about protecting unions, than about really helping inner city minorities to improve their lives.

    It's a real shame how you guys love to keep 'em dumb and helpless, and on the Dem plantation.

    As long as they keep voting Dem, that's all you fucking assholes care about.
     
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    Democratic nanny state? You don't say.

    The Governor of Kentucky is a Democrat, and the Democrats have a 10 seat margin in the State House.

    But, the Republican's have a 7 seat seniority in the State Senate, 5 of 6 members of the US House of Representatives is Republican, both Senators are Republican's and the stated voted solidly Republican in the past 3 national elections.

    DEMOCRATIC nanny state? Are you sure about that?
     
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    Yes. Ignorant fucking parents actively keeping their kids illiterate is a commentary on the rest of the nation....

    DERP!!!!
     
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    Many people in hillside mobile homes here are poor and desperate, and a $698 monthly check per child from the Supplemental Security Income program goes a long way — and those checks continue until the child turns 18.....

    Two things: When people are desperate, they will do desperate things to survive. The welfare laws were designed primarily to protect children.

    If Conservatives can come up with a better alternative to protecting children from the pain of poverty and not-quite-so-bright parents, let's hear it.
     
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    It's a shame what welfare has done to the Appellation Hill folk.
    They were poor but they use to have pride in themselves.
    They built their own homes and had pride in them, they took care of them. They made their own cloths had their own gardens and the men folk hunted wild game for their meat.
    They had the most beautiful music and great entertainment where they all got together and enjoyed good food and good company
    They wanted their children to learn and their hope was that their children would be able to get a good education and get out of the poverty.
    Now they are on welfare they don't do anything.
    It has crushed them into dependency.
     
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    Want to know what pulled my family out of poverty? The TVA and other New Deal infrastructure programs. Gave them electricity for the first time too. They now had non-farm work and with that, were able to build a new house, buy a car and farming equipment. House is still in my family today. These people live in areas where there are NO JOBS. If you have NO JOB, there is NO MONEY - especially not money to MOVE. I guess you'd rather they starve.
     

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