How Much You Wanna Bet We Put The Amount Of Troops Back In Iraq We Should've Left There?

[NotfooledbyW]

Iraqi Shiite militants demonstrate on September 18, 2014 against any US intervention in Iraq in the Shiite Turkmen-majority town of Amerli, in the Tikrit region north of Baghdad (AFP Photo/)

Iraqi Shiite militants demonstrate on September 18 2014 against any US intervention in Iraq in the Shiite Turkmen-majority town of Amerli in the Tikrit region north of Baghdad View photo - Yahoo News

You want Obama to negotiate with these guys. You are not really knowledgeable about Iraq are you. You ought to admit it and give up making a fool out of yourself more each day that passes.

You need to listen to Obama and let the grown ups and the Shiites themselves deal with it.

Shia paramilitary force kills dozens of ISIS fighters, destroy armored vehicles in Tikrit
September 18, 2014 by Amre Sarhan Tikrit (IraqiNews.com) A security source within the information office in Shia Peace Brigades stated on Thursday that, tens of ISIS elements have been killed and injured during a limited military operation in al-Esehaqi area, 80 km south of Tikrit. The source said, “Today, a limited military operation in southern Tikrit resulted in the demolition of two armored vehicles and tens of dead and wounded among ISIS militants.”

Shia paramilitary force kills dozens of ISIS fighters destroy armored vehicles in Tikrit - Iraqi News

I see nothing wrong with Iraqis fighting their own fight on the ground an not one spec of a US soldier's blood should be spilled on the ground. I have no problem with the world's finest fighter pilots giving all kinds of an assist from a mile up...

If IS terrorists want to fight an American let him learn to fly a fighter plane and come on up and see how they do. #449 [/QUOTE]


I am standing by what I said, because it is right and keeps Americans from dying in a Third Iraq War pushed by people like Eagle1.


If IS terrorists want to fight an American let him learn to fly a fighter plane and come on up and see how they do. #449

 

[georgephillip]

Where did the Islamic State come from?

The same place al-Qaeda and the Taliban came from.
"The invasion was mainly staged from Kuwait, with troops advancing northeast before reaching Baghdad in the second week of April. The ground advance was supplemented by air strikes, beginning in Baghdad at the Presidential Palace but escalating in scale as the invasion began in earnest. About a week into the invasion, the 173rd Airborne Brigade parachuted into northern Iraq and joined forces with Kurdish rebels, claiming the city of Kirkuk on April 10; American and Australian special forces were charged with securing the western portion of the country and preventing possible SCUD missile launches. Before the invasion, General Tommy Franks claims that the US, using a double agent, successfully tricked the Iraqi government into believing that the US would invade through Jordan, catching them off-guard when the actual invasion from Kuwait began."
27 maps that explain the crisis in Iraq vox.com

 

[Geaux4it]

They'll have all of Iraq soon enough

-Geaux

 

[francoHFW]

Not a chance, change the channel. The question is, when will the ME decide on secular gov't- like Saddam had lol arrgghhh. At least NOW they're getting sick of fundie terrorists, and can't blame US tyvm.

 

[georgephillip]

The borders of a New Middle East are coming into focus:

Dividing Iraq and Syria into warring factions like those found in Lebanon has been a plan in waiting since the 1980s.

Apparently, ruling global elites have decided its time has come?

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/pdf/The Zionist Plan for the Middle East.pdf

 

[francoHFW]

Not happening. More likely, they'll learn to keep religion out of politics. They're already sick of terrorists...IRAQ might break into sectors, but that's all.

 

[rdean]

Obama has already put the 1400 he publicly announced over the past few weeks. After the election he will certainly pour more in. By December 31, I predict at LEAST a Brigade will be sent. By next year there will be more.

Left there? Why leave any there.

You mean after all this time, Republicans are as ignorant as the day they invaded Iraq?

 

[rdean]

We should never have gone in there in the first place.

And, once there, we should never have stayed as long as we did.

We have not done well with nation-building in recent times, and we should not have even tried in their case.

It would have been much better to just walk away in 2003 or 2004 and let 'em rot.

But, given the way that Reality unfolded...

We should probably have left 10,000 to 25,000 troops in-place for another decade or more.

But, given that the Iraqis did not want to sign-off on a 'Status of Forces Agreement', allowing us to try our own people who are accused of criminal activity, we didn't have much choice, but to either (a) override the new government and stay anyway or (b) leave.

Given how war-weary the nation has been, it's understandable that we chose to leave.

And now we're stuck having to go back into that shithole again, to sort things out.

That's ridiculous. Sending young Americans back to stand between people who have been in a religious war for over a thousand years would only make them targets. Seeing young Americans die won't make them feel sad and stop. It will make them feel happy and want to dance a jig of joy.

 

[Geaux4it]

We should put more boots on the ground there. Kill them all. One terrorist at a time

-Geaux

 

[Kondor3]

...That's ridiculous. Sending young Americans back to stand between people who have been in a religious war for over a thousand years would only make them targets. Seeing young Americans die won't make them feel sad and stop. It will make them feel happy and want to dance a jig of joy.

We are closer to being on the same page here than you may be ready to believe, however, the Big Question seems to be...

What happens, if ISIS wins?

 

[francoHFW]

ISIS won't win, and muslims will beat them. Great lesson for them, AND chicken hawk Pubs and their dupes...

 

[Kondor3]

ISIS won't win, and muslims will beat them. Great lesson for them, AND chicken hawk Pubs and their dupes...

ISIS won't win, and it will be Muslims that beat them?

Hope you're right.

Doubt you are.

Time will tell.

 

[JakeStarkey]

ISIS won't win, because Iran and Saudi Arabia (strange bedfellows) will march through any neighboring countries into Iraq and Syria to destroy them.

 

[francoHFW]

And Jordan and every other gov't they touch. ISIS is a fundie exception to the rule only made possible by ugly American Pub/Booshie and their idiot Maliki in a vacuum...great job!

 

[francoHFW]

It'll also help when the corrupt Booosh World Depression ends in the area. and fighting for ISIS is no longer the best career choice for young muslim men...

 

[rdean]

ISIS won't win, and muslims will beat them. Great lesson for them, AND chicken hawk Pubs and their dupes...

ISIS won't win, and it will be Muslims that beat them?

Hope you're right.

Doubt you are.

Time will tell.

Isis has 30,000 troops and they get their military expertise from the Iraqi army that the GOP disbanded.

The largest four countries in the Middle East have 1.5 million troops.

If the US hadn't been showing up every time to "save the day", the conflict would already be over. But they keep waiting for us. Apparently, they don't want their kids dead when Republicans are so willing to sacrifice ours.

 

[Kondor3]

ISIS won't win, and muslims will beat them. Great lesson for them, AND chicken hawk Pubs and their dupes...

ISIS won't win, and it will be Muslims that beat them?

Hope you're right.

Doubt you are.

Time will tell.

Isis has 30,000 troops and they get their military expertise from the Iraqi army that the GOP disbanded.

The largest four countries in the Middle East have 1.5 million troops.

If the US hadn't been showing up every time to "save the day", the conflict would already be over. But they keep waiting for us. Apparently, they don't want their kids dead when Republicans are so willing to sacrifice ours.

Oh, knock off the 'Republicans are so willing to sacrifice ours' horseshit.

Your average run-of-the-mill Republican is no more (nor no less) eager than your average Democrat, to send our young people off to war.

 

[georgephillip]

Your average run-of-the-mill Republican is no more (nor no less) eager than your average Democrat, to send our young people off to war

Since when?

Republicans EXIST to serve war and war mongers.
Democrats are AMATEURS, by comparison.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Your average run-of-the-mill Republican is no more (nor no less) eager than your average Democrat, to send our young people off to war

Since when?

Republicans EXIST to serve war and war mongers.
Democrats are AMATEURS, by comparison.

You were not alive during the time of Truman, Kennedy, and Johnson. Or Obama.

 

[georgephillip]

You were not alive during the time of Truman, Kennedy, and Johnson. Or Obama.

Sure, I was.
Rank and file Democrats were much more likely to oppose Johnson's war than were Republicans, not so much with Obama.