How is government in way of Business??

Only 5 % of businesses take advantage of govt assistance?

BULLCRAP!

virtually all of agrabusinees takes advantage of govt assistance.
And a wide variety take advantage, check the SBA site alone for stats.
Everything from medical to timber, fishing, etc.
 
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More and more government workers on the backs of fewer and fewer private employees is no sustainable.

Think Greece.

Ohh I agree with that but it is not on this topic.
Try to address the issue of the thread topic please.
Or just go back to playing Donkeykong.
 
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How can you make a business plan when you don't know what your taxes will be, or what regulations goverment will slap on you next?

So for you it isn't government in the way, it is certainty and uncertainty that decides. But I thought business was about risk? That is why businesses should be rewarded, as I understand the right hype.
 
The problem with this question is that it assumes the existence of two separate entities: business and government.

[The average voter has been deluded into believing a Tea Party myth. This myth envisions a weak, noble entrepreneur being hunted by an all-powerful government. This harkens back to the days when Ayn Rand's father's pharmacy was stolen by the government. Somebody forgot to tell the Tea Party: the pharmacy now owns the government. Study how much money Eli Lilly poured into the Republican Party in order to rig the 2003 Drug Bill, which gave them monopoly power to rig prices above market value. Problem is: Hannity never talks about this]

Corporations fund the elections of candidates who do their bidding. Corporations destroy candidates who oppose their interests by, e.g., threatening their anti-competitve monopolies. If they cannot directly staff government, as Goldman Sachs did with the Clinton and Bush economic teams, they rely on a lobbying apparatus which spends billions a year.

The Tea Party believes in a boogeyman called "Government".

Attention Tea Party: there is no government. There are only corporations and the puppets who do their bidding. When you go after Government because Hannity tells you that your country has been stolen, than you become a puppet too. Stop attacking the puppet and go after the puppet master.
 
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Which one of you leftist dweebs has ever run an honest-to-goodness business?

So you have no opinion. And I was surely thinking I would get all my answers met on this thread. Some real logical sound business savy debate, but alas,....................it was not to be.
 
see shint. They aren't ever going to get around to telling you how the government is in the way.

It's an article of faith.

They live in a fact free world. They believe Obama was born in kenya. They believe death panels ar in the healtchcare law. They believe 34 warships are accompanying the president to India. And on and on. It doesn't matter that you can absolutely prove these things aren't true. It doesn't. They believe them and that's all that matters.
I'll score that a big "NO", as to whether you've ever operated a real business.

Well Doodles,...........................I did ask first, so why are you interrupting with some other BS? LMAO!!!
 
I'll score that a big "NO", as to whether you've ever operated a real business.

Whatever dude. While you're doing whatever you're doing tomorrow, I'll be playing golf. My real estate agent, lawyer, mortgage broker, building inspector, appraiser, tax consultant and the rest will be out making money for me and I'll be playing golf.

And you can continue to believe in a world where i couldn't buy an sell you any time I wanted to.
 
Only 5 % of businesses take advantage of govt assistance?

BULLCRAP!

virtually all of agrabusinees takes advantage of govt assistance.
And a wide variety take advantage, check the SBA site alone for stats.
Everything from medical to timber, fishing, etc.

Tax cuts are not government assistance.

Yes they are. If they target businesses or a specific business or type of business, etc. If they are across the board including individual and business you are correct.

In any case I was referring to special tax exemptions, no interest or no payback loans, etc to get businesses to locate in an area, etc.
Ag subsidies are not tax cuts, neither is SBA assistance, etc
 
see shint. They aren't ever going to get around to telling you how the government is in the way.

It's an article of faith.

They live in a fact free world. They believe Obama was born in kenya. They believe death panels ar in the healtchcare law. They believe 34 warships are accompanying the president to India. And on and on. It doesn't matter that you can absolutely prove these things aren't true. It doesn't. They believe them and that's all that matters.
I'll score that a big "NO", as to whether you've ever operated a real business.

Well Doodles,...........................I did ask first, so why are you interrupting with some other BS? LMAO!!!

Why did he do it? because he has no valid response to the topic of the thread.
 
Government does not create jobs but it does confiscate wealth. An entrepreneur can create a job when his revenues are greater than his expenditures and he is okay with x amount of profit. By hiring an employee, that entrepreneur is essentially saying that he is confident that production will increase along with revenues. Again, govt has nothing to do with this process other than imposing taxes and regulations. Govt is not there to help.

So you don't think health & safety laws help, huh? Inspections just slow down work, huh? So when you are floating in chicken diseases, you have been sued millions for a worker accident, you go out on a bridge and collapse with it.

OK, what isn't government helping, because this must be why government is in the way.
 
And the govt does create jobs, just look at the job creation figures during the Bush Preisdency.

At least 25% of americans depend on the govt for income. either directly working for the govt or working for a business that is a govt supplier, etc.

I was kinda wondering about all the Afghan US contractors with more feet on the ground than US troops. And US Troops is also a job. Look how Bush created that Iraq job for the US Troops. Tsk!
 
An interesting tidbit you will not hear about on Fox.

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Published on Friday, July 23rd, 2010

As Congress argued President Obama’s health care bill, cable news obsessed over it, the American public held its breath in anticipation and the health care industry wrung its hands–one Tucson business sensed a unique opportunity.

“The health care bill was kind of a perfect storm for us,” says InTech Health Ventures founder John Hoyt. A perfect storm because it offered employers $5 billion dollars through the Early Retiree Reinvestment Program, and Hoyt and co-founder Paula Dunn know well how to navigate the system to get that money to employers.

Hoyt and Dunn joined as partners to develop InTech Health Ventures in 2006, breaking away from high-level positions within the health care information technology industry, to found their own company based on helping employers get government subsidies to pay for retiree costs. Print this storyEmail this storyPost a CommentShareThis
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Government does not create jobs but it does confiscate wealth. An entrepreneur can create a job when his revenues are greater than his expenditures and he is okay with x amount of profit. By hiring an employee, that entrepreneur is essentially saying that he is confident that production will increase along with revenues. Again, govt has nothing to do with this process other than imposing taxes and regulations. Govt is not there to help.

So you don't think health & safety laws help, huh? Inspections just slow down work, huh? So when you are floating in chicken diseases, you have been sued millions for a worker accident, you go out on a bridge and collapse with it.

OK, what isn't government helping, because this must be why government is in the way.

Oh no, in no way am I against all government regulations. That would be anarchist. Child labor laws, health, safety are necessary. I was specifically referring to state, city, fed regs that contradict each other. There are several industries in which this does apply. Some of these regs are good but a lot aren't and do hinder private business.
 
And the govt does create jobs, just look at the job creation figures during the Bush Preisdency.

At least 25% of americans depend on the govt for income. either directly working for the govt or working for a business that is a govt supplier, etc.

I was kinda wondering about all the Afghan US contractors with more feet on the ground than US troops. And US Troops is also a job. Look how Bush created that Iraq job for the US Troops. Tsk!

And Homeland Security.

And all the defense industry jobs supplying the military?
the price of ammo went up because of the demand.
 
I say, hey hey, a working man, a working man like me.
I ain't never been on welfare, one place I won't be.
Because I will be working, working, working,
Long as my two hands are fit to use.
I'll drink a little beer this evening,
and sing a little bit of those working man blues.
Merle Haggard
 
Government doesn't help business?

(This is insane. Is Mark Levine this powerful)

Where do you think the computer and the technology that fueled the 80s consumer electronic boom came from? It came from the Space Program and the Cold War Pentagon. It was subsidized by the public and directed by government. The costs were socialized, then the technology and profits were privatized.

Or what about the military apparatus which, by "stabilizing" dangerous regions, ensures that American transnationals have access to 3rd world labor and resources? The public pays for this, but the benefits are narrowly distributed. The oil industry gets tax breaks, but the public pays the middle east Pentagon tab. The oil industry gets endless help from Washington, which was lobbied to destroy the first electronic car movement in California, as well as the conservation movement, thus limiting competition and artificially lifting energy prices.

Or what about Reagan protecting the American auto industry from Japan. Big business craves big government help -- and it pays endlessly for it. Nobody likes big government more than big business. The two are one.
The Free Market: Ronald Reagan: Protectionist

Or what about Eli Lilly paying the government to protect them from foreign competition, so drug prices could remain artificially high and choke the middle class (whose jobs were not protected by Washington).

Big business is not only helped by Washington, it can't live with out big government subsidies, bailouts, protections, regulatory rigging, and legislative favors.

(wow, I cannot believe what the right wing information system has done to this country)
 
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Government doesn't help business?

(This is insane. Is Mark Levine this powerful)

Where do you think the computer and the technology that fueled the 80s consumer electronic boom came from? It came from the Space Program and the Cold War Pentagon. It was subsidized by the public and directed by government. The costs were socialized, then the technology and profits were privatized.

Or what about the military apparatus which, by "stabilizing" dangerous regions, ensures that American transnationals have access to 3rd world labor and resources? The public pays for this, but the benefits are narrowly distributed. The oil industry gets tax breaks in exchange for the billions the public pays to control the middle east. The oil industry gets endless help from Washington, which was paid to destroy the first electronic car movement in California, as well as the conservation movement, thus limiting competition and artificially lifting energy prices.

Or what about Reagan protecting the American auto industry from Japan. Big business craves big government help -- and it pays endlessly for it. Nothing likes big government more than big business. The two are one.
The Free Market: Ronald Reagan: Protectionist

Or what about Eli Lilly paying the government to protect them from foreign competition, so drug prices could remain artificially high and choke the middle class (whose jobs were not protected by Washington).

Big business is not only helped by Washington, it can't live with out big government subsidies, bailouts, protections, regulatory rigging, and legislative favors.

(wow, I cannot believe what the right wing information system has done to this country)
Wow...I cannot believe what the Fabian socialist/ progressive propaganda system has done to this country.

Most of those are examples of Big Daddy Big Gubmint breaking your leg, then handing you a crutch and condescendingly patting you on the back and telling you how lucky you are to have them around.
 

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