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What is going to happen in China when automation sets in?
- China needs automation.
Their working population is going to drop drastically. Their problem is the opposite of most countries.
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What is going to happen in China when automation sets in?
Not at all? Cheaper energy will, according the laws of aggregate supply and aggregate demand, increase output in the short run, but that says nothing about employment in the long run. In fact, cheaper energy may actually decrease manufacturing employment because it will be even more cost-effective for firms to use machines instead of humans.Second question. How much will manufacturing employment increase because of cheap energy in this country?
The growing trend in American manufacturing is manufacturing components abroad with final assembly in the US. Often that final assemble is nothing more than putting the major assembly in a case, adding accessories, inspecting, packing, and shipping. Thus, most of labor is done overseas. I recently visited a manufacturing plant in Idaho. Today they are producing the same type of product they manufactured in 2000 with an employment of 95 versus 275 employees. The difference is most of the components are made overseas.
The growing trend in American manufacturing is manufacturing components abroad with final assembly in the US. Often that final assemble is nothing more than putting the major assembly in a case, adding accessories, inspecting, packing, and shipping. Thus, most of labor is done overseas. I recently visited a manufacturing plant in Idaho. Today they are producing the same type of product they manufactured in 2000 with an employment of 95 versus 275 employees. The difference is most of the components are made overseas.
The growing trend in American manufacturing is manufacturing components abroad with final assembly in the US. Often that final assemble is nothing more than putting the major assembly in a case, adding accessories, inspecting, packing, and shipping. Thus, most of labor is done overseas. I recently visited a manufacturing plant in Idaho. Today they are producing the same type of product they manufactured in 2000 with an employment of 95 versus 275 employees. The difference is most of the components are made overseas.
- Manufacturing jobs aren't what they once were anyway.
Many manufacturing jobs have, in fact, come back to the U.S. With our labor surplus, though, they don't pay squat.
The growing trend in American manufacturing is manufacturing components abroad with final assembly in the US. Often that final assemble is nothing more than putting the major assembly in a case, adding accessories, inspecting, packing, and shipping. Thus, most of labor is done overseas. I recently visited a manufacturing plant in Idaho. Today they are producing the same type of product they manufactured in 2000 with an employment of 95 versus 275 employees. The difference is most of the components are made overseas.
- Manufacturing jobs aren't what they once were anyway.
Many manufacturing jobs have, in fact, come back to the U.S. With our labor surplus, though, they don't pay squat.
Imagine if we eliminated the corporate tax by going from 40% to 0% and then made unions illegal again and stopped the war on our families and schools??
That's because it's light manufacturing with labor intensive work still done overseas. A lot of it is just final assemble and packing.The growing trend in American manufacturing is manufacturing components abroad with final assembly in the US. Often that final assemble is nothing more than putting the major assembly in a case, adding accessories, inspecting, packing, and shipping. Thus, most of labor is done overseas. I recently visited a manufacturing plant in Idaho. Today they are producing the same type of product they manufactured in 2000 with an employment of 95 versus 275 employees. The difference is most of the components are made overseas.
- Manufacturing jobs aren't what they once were anyway.
Many manufacturing jobs have, in fact, come back to the U.S. With our labor surplus, though, they don't pay squat.
Increased productivity.
It's why we're not all starving farmers.
Increased productivity.
It's why we're not all starving farmers.
...what's the productivity ratio between the US and China?
...and more important : where is productivity rising more quickly ?
evenmore... the crucial question is how much time will happen before China's productivity matches the productivity in the US.
It's kind of hard to answer with those two charts.
Let's add another chart.
Increased productivity.
It's why we're not all starving farmers.
...what's the productivity ratio between the US and China?
...and more important : where is productivity rising more quickly ?
evenmore... the crucial question is how much time will happen before China's productivity matches the productivity in the US.
It's kind of hard to answer with those two charts.
Let's add another chart.
If your earlier charts are correct, and China really does manufacture $2.4 trillion worth of goods and we manufacture $2.0 trillion, they take 6 or 7 times the number of workers to do that.
That makes us 5 or 6 times as productive per worker.
Increased productivity.
It's why we're not all starving farmers.
...what's the productivity ratio between the US and China?
...and more important : where is productivity rising more quickly ?
evenmore... the crucial question is how much time will happen before China's productivity matches the productivity in the US.
It's kind of hard to answer with those two charts.
Let's add another chart.
If your earlier charts are correct, and China really does manufacture $2.4 trillion worth of goods and we manufacture $2.0 trillion, they take 6 or 7 times the number of workers to do that.
That makes us 5 or 6 times as productive per worker.
But more important , their productivity is sky rocketing. In 10 years the number of workers increased 15% , yet their productivity increased 300%.
It is very likely they reach US productivity levels in 15 or 20 years.
What does your network say would say would do the most to bring manufacturing back to the U.S. Flopper?
In 10 years the number of workers increased 15% , yet their productivity increased 300%.
It's easier to increase your productivity when you start at the level of planting rice with a stick.
It is very likely they reach US productivity levels in 15 or 20 years.
I doubt it. Of course if we keep electing idiots that damage our economy.....maybe.
In 10 years the number of workers increased 15% , yet their productivity increased 300%.
It's easier to increase your productivity when you start at the level of planting rice with a stick.
It is very likely they reach US productivity levels in 15 or 20 years.
I doubt it. Of course if we keep electing idiots that damage our economy.....maybe.
Farmers... sure, industry workers, not quite.
Further automation will take place Bush dynasty notwithstanding.
China s Dominance in Manufacturing in One Chart - The Atlantic
In 10 years the number of workers increased 15% , yet their productivity increased 300%.
It's easier to increase your productivity when you start at the level of planting rice with a stick.
It is very likely they reach US productivity levels in 15 or 20 years.
I doubt it. Of course if we keep electing idiots that damage our economy.....maybe.
Farmers... sure, industry workers, not quite.
Further automation will take place Bush dynasty notwithstanding.
China s Dominance in Manufacturing in One Chart - The Atlantic
Farmers... sure, industry workers, not quite.
Their jump in productivity was from taking farmers and putting them in factories.
Further automation will take place Bush dynasty notwithstanding.
I was thinking about idiots further to the left than the Bushs.
In 10 years the number of workers increased 15% , yet their productivity increased 300%.
It's easier to increase your productivity when you start at the level of planting rice with a stick.
It is very likely they reach US productivity levels in 15 or 20 years.
I doubt it. Of course if we keep electing idiots that damage our economy.....maybe.
Farmers... sure, industry workers, not quite.
Further automation will take place Bush dynasty notwithstanding.
China s Dominance in Manufacturing in One Chart - The Atlantic
Farmers... sure, industry workers, not quite.
Their jump in productivity was from taking farmers and putting them in factories.
Further automation will take place Bush dynasty notwithstanding.
I was thinking about idiots further to the left than the Bushs.
"Their jump in productivity was from taking farmers and putting them in factories."
That was pre- 2000. Do you think they assemple iphones and solar panels with sticks?
"I was thinking about idiots further to the left than the Bushs"
Oh that. Don't wory , automation is an independent process, the president's affiliation is irrelevant.