how did birth certificate qualification turn into "racism"?

[kwc57]

how did birth certificate qualification turn into "racism"?

Any white guy can walk up to the first black president of the United States and demand his birth certificate. And because the guy is white and the President is black, the President is supposed to do what the white guy says. And after the president is finished proving who he was all along, the white guy should be applauded for teaching that black president a "lesson".

Turn that into your grade school teacher and you're going to get an F.

 

[kwc57]

how did birth certificate qualification turn into "racism"?

If anyone disagree's with obummers policies they are by definition, according to progressives, "racist". They simply won't accept that you can dislike a persons policies while not caring what color he is.

And if Hillary wins, the narrative will switch to sexism. They can't defend their policies on their merits, so they use isms to shut down the conversation.

Well certainly if Clinton wins and Birthers start questioning her place of Birth or Trump blames his defeat on her really being born in Canada......lol

The media and some leftists have already started throwing sexism claims around in regard to her opposition......and it had nothing to do with where she was born. Like Obama, it is about policy and using an ism to stop the conversation.

I had a good friend who had a son. The kid often made bad choices that required some form of discussion and discipline. When my friend would talk to him about his action or behavior, his son would start yelling, "you hate me, why do you hate me" and derail the discussion and discipline every time. He learned how to play his dad and stop being held responsible for the consequences of his actions. Every time the left and the media abuse the terms racism and sexism to run interference for Obama or Hillary, they do the same thing. It's a false claim and very effective in stopping the discussion of policy differences.

 

[Syriusly]

how did birth certificate qualification turn into "racism"?

If anyone disagree's with obummers policies they are by definition, according to progressives, "racist". They simply won't accept that you can dislike a persons policies while not caring what color he is.

And if Hillary wins, the narrative will switch to sexism. They can't defend their policies on their merits, so they use isms to shut down the conversation.

Well certainly if Clinton wins and Birthers start questioning her place of Birth or Trump blames his defeat on her really being born in Canada......lol

Like Obama, it is about policy and using an ism to stop the conversation..

Okay- tell me what 'policy' issues Trump was using when he went Birther on Obama with these attacks?

 

[The Irish Ram]

how did birth certificate qualification turn into "racism"?

If anyone disagree's with obummers policies they are by definition, according to progressives, "racist". They simply won't accept that you can dislike a persons policies while not caring what color he is.

Accusing the President of being a Kenyan and being a Muslim is not disagreeing with his policies.

Accusing the only African American President (and only that President) of being not being born in America and being a Muslim sure does sound racist.

So, not believing someone is automatically racist if they happen to be black? Does the left disagree with Bush's foreign policy because he's white? Do they accuse him of crimes because he's white?

The birther rumor came from a few publications calling him a Kenyan. In an interview while running for Illinois senate, he was called the Kenyan candidate. So, why is it wrong to wonder whether he lied about being Kenyan in an effort to gain something?

As far as the Muslim rumors, that isn't difficult to understand. His father was a Muslim and he did spend time studying Islam. While he doesn't have a habit of quoting the bible, he has quoted the koran on many occasions. He is quite friendly toward all Muslims while constantly criticizing Christians. Again, it's not a huge leap to wonder what his true religion really is.

And if his father was a Muslim, so what? And if he were a Muslim, so what? It's that dern constitution thing. Freedom of religion and all that.

That does not include a religion that insists on killing those who refuse to convert to that religion. Terrorism under the guise of religion isn't covered or protected by our Constitution. And it doesn't include removing our laws, immigration for one, in order to push Obama's agenda on all of us. We have laws and borders for a reason. And neither are the UN's business.

Let's not continue to be stupid. We have examples of how this will play out. Ask the French if they still think Muslim infiltration into their country was a good idea. Ask Germany.
That his father was Muslim isn't the issue, but that His father passed his hatred of whites down to his son is an issue. The dreams of his father are his dreams. Take white colonialism down. Obama has done his best to realize his father's dream and we are paying for it. Enough.

 

[bripat9643]

how did birth certificate qualification turn into "racism"?

Just like every other criticism of Obama is called "racism."

 

[bripat9643]

how did birth certificate qualification turn into "racism"?

If anyone disagree's with obummers policies they are by definition, according to progressives, "racist". They simply won't accept that you can dislike a persons policies while not caring what color he is.

Accusing the President of being a Kenyan and being a Muslim is not disagreeing with his policies.

Accusing the only African American President (and only that President) of being not being born in America and being a Muslim sure does sound racist.

You assume the two go together. The people who accuse him of not being born in America aren't necessarily the same ones who accuse him of being a Muslim. However, neither are examples of racism. Islam isn't a race.

Whenever someone criticizes Obama's policies, douche bags like you call them a racist.

 

[CarlinAnnArbor]

Accusing the President of being a Kenyan and being a Muslim is not disagreeing with his policies.

Accusing the only African American President (and only that President) of being not being born in America and being a Muslim sure does sound racist

His grandmother witnessed his birth in Kenya. So if we don't call her a liar, we're RAYSIS!

 

[nat4900]

how did birth certificate qualification turn into "racism"?

If you really have to be told, then it may be time for your nap.

 

[Zoom-boing]

The left started the whole "obama isn't a real American, doesn't have fundamental thinking of American values " back in 2008 as a way to push hillary as being "more authentic" (born in the middle of America to a middle class family, etc. ) so people would identify with her. Republicans jumped on that and took it the birther route. If Republicans who went the birther route are racist then so are th hillarybots who started it, who planted the seeds. Right?


"The idea of going after Obama’s otherness dates back to the last presidential election—and to Democrats. Long before Trump started in, Hillary Clinton’s chief strategist, Mark Penn, recognized this potential vulnerability in Obama and sought to exploit it. In a March 2007 memo to Clinton (that later found its way to me), Penn wrote: “All of these articles about his boyhood in Indonesia and his life in Hawaii are geared toward showing his background is diverse, multicultural and putting it in a new light,” he wrote. “Save it for 2050. It also exposes a very strong weakness for him—his roots to basic American values and culture are at best limited. I cannot imagine America electing a president during a time of war who is not at his center fundamentally American in his thinking and his values.”

Penn also suggested how the campaign might take advantage of this. “Every speech should contain the line that you were born in the middle of America to the middle class in the middle of the last century,” he advised Clinton. “And talk about the basic bargain as about [sic] the deeply American values you grew up with, learned as a child, and that drive you today.” He went on: “Let’s explicitly own ‘American’ in our programs, the speeches and the values. He doesn’t … Let’s add flag symbols to the backgrounds [of campaign events].”

Penn was not a birther. His memo didn’t raise the issue of Obama’s citizenship. Furthermore, he was acutely aware of the political danger that a Democrat would court by going after Obama in this way, even subliminally: “We are never going to say anything about his background,” he wrote. Still, his memo is the earliest example of a strategy that metastasized. The Republican tactic has been to make explicit what Penn intended to be merely implicit—and then carry it to its furthest extreme. Soon, the belief spread among many voters that Obama had been educated in a radical madrassa, that he was secretly a Muslim, and, finally, that he had not even been born in the U.S."

The Democratic Roots of the Birther Movement

 

[LeftofLeft]

Because he's the only candidate in recent history who was pressured to show his. Even though he has his short form birth certificate proving his birth, the state of Hawaii backing it up, it apparently wasn't enough.

Not to mention the references to Kenya and the claim that he is Muslim.

When was the last time a candidate had to prove he was American?

Any time someone disagrees with or holds Obama accountable, then that person is a racist. It's gotten ridiculous. Racism is now a watered down term. I would jump at the chance to vote Condoleeza Rice, Allen West, or Ben Carson into the White House. Yet if I question Obama or disagree with him, I am considered a racist.

 

[my2¢]

I suppose racism was just an easy answer to the question why folks were hounding Obama to prove he was American without having an ounce of evidence to the contrary.

 

[Spare_change]

Because he's the only candidate in recent history who was pressured to show his. Even though he has his short form birth certificate proving his birth, the state of Hawaii backing it up, it apparently wasn't enough.

Not to mention the references to Kenya and the claim that he is Muslim.

When was the last time a candidate had to prove he was American?

I assume selective memory is an inherited trait - we can blame it on your mother.

Perhaps you don't remember John McCain having to produce his birth certificate (he was born in Panama) or Ted Cruz having to produce his birth certificate (he was born in Canada).

It is common practice for candidates to make their birth certificate available - it's part of the vetting process. It's just not normally an issue. In the case of Obama, he created the confusion himself, with his comments in his autobiography.

 

[Spare_change]

how did birth certificate qualification turn into "racism"?

Who is the only President that Donald Trump has ever asked to show his birth certificate?

Who is the only President that Donald Trump has ever implied was a Muslim?

Who is the only President that Donald Trump has ever implied might have been behind the 'mysterious death' of a Hawaiian official?

See if you can pick the one President out of the photo

Uhhhh... I guess you didn't know that Trump also challenged McCain's citizenship.

You're probably not aware of the pictures of Obama in Muslim garb, or that Obama attended a Muslim school.

Seems to me like there is justification for asking the question.

 

[Spare_change]

I suppose racism was just an easy answer to the question why folks were hounding Obama to prove he was American without having an ounce of evidence to the contrary.

... except what he said in his autobiography.

 

[JQPublic1]

how did birth certificate qualification turn into "racism"?

If anyone disagree's with obummers policies they are by definition, according to progressives, "racist". They simply won't accept that you can dislike a persons policies while not caring what color he is.

You made that up didn't you?

 

[JQPublic1]

how did birth certificate qualification turn into "racism"?

If you're white, you're a racist. Hillary has said as much.

The left doesn't believe that anyone can form an opinion based on anything but race. While they are revealing their own racism, they assume that everyone else thinks the same way they do.

If you expect a minority to produce a birth certificate for any reason, like obtaining an ID, you are expecting too much from them. The left doesn't think minorities are responsible or smart enough to have their shit together that way. If you ask Obama for a birth certificate to silence the rumors started by the Hillary campaign, you are called racist for not believing any minorities.

The race card gets played whenever a liberal is caught in a lie or otherwise can't defend their stand.

Why is it so hard for RW shills to stay on topic?

 

[JQPublic1]

Not only did they demand his "long form" birth certificate, because the short form was obviously a forgery, but they questioned the long form certificate's authenticity as well. Trump suggested on more than one occasion it was a forgery, only admitting last week that he knows that President Obama was born in the United States and is an American citizen, no question.

There never was any question of it. Only those who sought to de-legitimize his election carried on this fiction, and those who did so knowingly lied to promote the idea that the American Presidency had been stolen by some sort of Muslim Manchurian Candidate. The more preposterous and ridiculous the conspiracy theory, the more rabidly the alt-right has latched onto it.

The racist part is that no matter what President Obama has said or done, he has not been believed. He is a Christian, American black man. End of story. That many of you believe he is not, is your problem, because he has never seemed to be otherwise to me.

And he is married to the most educated first lady in history! ..er… I think…. heh heh heh!

 

[Syriusly]

how did birth certificate qualification turn into "racism"?

If anyone disagree's with obummers policies they are by definition, according to progressives, "racist". They simply won't accept that you can dislike a persons policies while not caring what color he is.

Accusing the President of being a Kenyan and being a Muslim is not disagreeing with his policies.

Accusing the only African American President (and only that President) of being not being born in America and being a Muslim sure does sound racist.

So, not believing someone is automatically racist if they happen to be black? Does the left disagree with Bush's foreign policy because he's white? Do they accuse him of crimes because he's white?

The birther rumor came from a few publications calling him a Kenyan. In an interview while running for Illinois senate, he was called the Kenyan candidate. So, why is it wrong to wonder whether he lied about being Kenyan in an effort to gain something?

As far as the Muslim rumors, that isn't difficult to understand. His father was a Muslim and he did spend time studying Islam. While he doesn't have a habit of quoting the bible, he has quoted the koran on many occasions. He is quite friendly toward all Muslims while constantly criticizing Christians. Again, it's not a huge leap to wonder what his true religion really is.

And if his father was a Muslim, so what? And if he were a Muslim, so what? It's that dern constitution thing. Freedom of religion and all that.

That does not include a religion h.

Our Constitutional protections include all religions.

Why do Birther hate the Constitution so much?

 

[Syriusly]

I suppose racism was just an easy answer to the question why folks were hounding Obama to prove he was American without having an ounce of evidence to the contrary.

... except what he said in his autobiography.

You mean where Barack Obama said in his autobiography that he was born in Hawaii?

 

[Syriusly]

Because he's the only candidate in recent history who was pressured to show his. Even though he has his short form birth certificate proving his birth, the state of Hawaii backing it up, it apparently wasn't enough.

Not to mention the references to Kenya and the claim that he is Muslim.

When was the last time a candidate had to prove he was American?

I assume selective memory is an inherited trait - we can blame it on your mother.

Perhaps you don't remember John McCain having to produce his birth certificate (he was born in Panama) or Ted Cruz having to produce his birth certificate (he was born in Canada).

It is common practice for candidates to make their birth certificate available - it's part of the vetting process. It's just not normally an issue. In the case of Obama, he created the confusion himself, with his comments in his autobiography.

LOL- speaking of 'selective' memory- is that what you are going to blame on your lies?

John McCain didn't have to produce his birth certificate- everyone knew he was born in Panama. And John McCain never showed voters his birth certificate.

Barack Obama was the first Presidential candidate in history to show voters his birth certificate- which Birthers immediately claimed was not a legal birth certificate- even after the State of Hawaii said it was authentic.

Ted Cruz was the second Presidential candidate in history to show his birth certificate- which of course was a Canadian BC.

It is not a 'common' practice- it is an incredibly uncommon practice- with only two candidates out of hundreds of candidates in our history ever showing us their birth certificates.

And how could Barack Obama have created this when his autobiography refers to the hospital he was born in Hawaii?
Read "Dreams of My Father"- page 66.