How can the Black Community be Saved ?

lilburnjoe

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Bill O'Riley provided some interesting points on the plight of the Black community.

Can America come together as one nation ? United we stand, divided we fall.

What will it take ?
 
Why not approach it as how can America be saved ? Singling out the black community will only serve to divide them further.

Why not start at the weakest link. The Black community has the highest single parent familys, largest percentage in prison population, largest percentage in gang population, and the highest death rate for ages under 25.

I'm looking for honest debate not to stir the pot.
 
From within. I do not agreed with most of The Nation of Islam's teachings, but it is a model of self help.
 
Why not approach it as how can America be saved ? Singling out the black community will only serve to divide them further.

You cant be arrested for American on American hate crime can you? Who singles out who?
 
Why not approach it as how can America be saved ? Singling out the black community will only serve to divide them further.

Why not start at the weakest link. The Black community has the highest single parent familys, largest percentage in prison population, largest percentage in gang population, and the highest death rate for ages under 25.

I'm looking for honest debate not to stir the pot.

Because weakest links tend to be defensive and resent be the identified problem. It we all want to solve the problem we all have to communicate. I would recommend inviting everyone to join the process of precisely identifying and addressing problems that face America.
 
Why not approach it as how can America be saved ? Singling out the black community will only serve to divide them further.

Why not start at the weakest link. The Black community has the highest single parent familys, largest percentage in prison population, largest percentage in gang population, and the highest death rate for ages under 25.

I'm looking for honest debate not to stir the pot.

Because weakest links tend to be defensive and resent be the identified problem. It we all want to solve the problem we all have to communicate. I would recommend inviting everyone to join the process of precisely identifying and addressing problems that face America.

How about the Black community start taking responsibility for their plight and quit worrying what others are doing. It all starts within the family unit !!
 
How to save "a" Black community or "the" Black community?

A real Black community can't have anyone but Blacks in it. For this type of community to flourish, it may not have any other races practicing racism against it. They must be self led. If there were no evil Whites or White/Hispanics (like Zimmerman) around, then every one of these Chocolate cites or nations would look something like the ones in Hollywood movies like "Coming to America."

But alas, reality gets in the way, and there is only the ugly truth bearing witness to the effects of total Blackness. It looks nothing like what's in the movies.

There is Haiti, the oldest Black-ruled nation on earth. There was the failed project of Soul City. There are also the two Blackest cities in America, Detroit and Jackson, Miss. Then there is every Sub-Saharan nation in Africa.

All these areas are "deteriorating" they are not "developing." I don't believe in the outside world wasting further resources saving them, but should focus on containing them. They have blown all their chances over the years and now is the time for Blacks to start taking care of themselves if they want to better themselves.
 
In order to save America(n's) we need to be the self-sufficient, hard working, independent, people that started our Republic. We need to recognize that the US is a republic and not a democracy. We need to get all our rights back in compliance with the constitution and put government back into it's place.

I don't see that happening.
 
Saving the Black Community requires the reversal of stereotypes which are, unfortunately, too accurate in today's society. There are good reasons to be suspicious of young black men in gansta attire. This may not be "fair" but it is true. The reversal of this stereotype must come from within, starting with fathers providing positive role models in the home.
 
I found Juan and Bill's piece kinda funny and ironic. The same argument could be made about whites in the lower classes of America. Does no one out there know them? Seems not. They face the same situation, call it whatever you like. Poverty breeds poverty, check out Appalachian sometime. Check out poor white sections of Philly. People who through birth have accumlated advantages think they earned these advantages, anyone out there who picked their parents, intelligence, and social class sign in here. What BS it all is. You wanna help the poor of all races, support jobs here, buy here, support a fair wage, tell those idiots in Congress to pass a jobs bill. Funny how Fox tells people to get a job while they support a Romney who exports jobs, can you spell hypocrite.

Black Unemployment Rate Rose in June to 13.7 Percent | News | BET

Read this book if you'd like to know some whys rather than finger pointing. 'The Betrayal of the American Dream' Donald L. Barlett, James B. Steele

excerpt:

"The ruling class thinks that the average American earns too much money. This is an unspoken belief, and one that most of them would no doubt vehemently deny. But the evidence is compelling. The elite show their hand in many ways:

• When they oppose raising the pay of the lowest-paid workers, those covered by the minimum wage

• When they encourage the export of good-paying jobs in fields such as information technology

• When they resist changes in the tax code that would protect American workers

Corporate executives contend that they are forced to relocate their operations to low-wage havens to remain competitive. In other words, their domestic workers earn too much. Never mind that manufacturing wages are lower in the United Stares than in a dozen other developed countries.

Thanks to the rules, many of which are written by corporations, a company can pull up stakes and use cheap foreign labor to make the same product it once did in America. It no longer has to meet environmental standards. It no longer has to abide by U.S. labor laws. It no longer has to pay a decent wage. Then the company can ship the product back to the United States where, courtesy of the rules, it will pay little if any duty. How can American workers hope to compete against that? They can't.

Lisa Gentner worked at a company called Carrollton Specialty Products, housed in a one-story warehouse in Moberly, Missouri, a town of 15,000 in central Missouri. Carrollton was a subcontractor for Hallmark Cards, the global greeting card giant based 125 miles west in Kansas City, Missouri. The largely female workforce of 200 provided the hand assembly for a variety of Hallmark products. They tied bows and affixed them to valentines and anniversary greetings. They glued buttons, rhinestones, and pop-ups inside birthday cards. They made gift baskets.

As in many towns across the country, the plant was an economic anchor for Moberly. Manufacturing is often pictured as a big-city enterprise, but a substantial number of plants are the lifeblood of small to medium-sized cities...."

Quote from p24 'Assault on the Middle Class' in 'The Betrayal of the American Dream' authors, Barlett and Steele.
 
I found Juan and Bill's piece kinda funny and ironic. The same argument could be made about whites in the lower classes of America. Does no one out there know them? Seems not. They face the same situation, call it whatever you like. Poverty breeds poverty, check out Appalachian sometime. Check out poor white sections of Philly. People who through birth have accumlated advantages think they earned these advantages, anyone out there who picked their parents, intelligence, and social class sign in here. What BS it all is. You wanna help the poor of all races, support jobs here, buy here, support a fair wage, tell those idiots in Congress to pass a jobs bill. Funny how Fox tells people to get a job while they support a Romney who exports jobs, can you spell hypocrite.

Black Unemployment Rate Rose in June to 13.7 Percent | News | BET

Read this book if you'd like to know some whys rather than finger pointing. 'The Betrayal of the American Dream' Donald L. Barlett, James B. Steele

excerpt:

"The ruling class thinks that the average American earns too much money. This is an unspoken belief, and one that most of them would no doubt vehemently deny. But the evidence is compelling. The elite show their hand in many ways:

• When they oppose raising the pay of the lowest-paid workers, those covered by the minimum wage

• When they encourage the export of good-paying jobs in fields such as information technology

• When they resist changes in the tax code that would protect American workers

Corporate executives contend that they are forced to relocate their operations to low-wage havens to remain competitive. In other words, their domestic workers earn too much. Never mind that manufacturing wages are lower in the United Stares than in a dozen other developed countries.

Thanks to the rules, many of which are written by corporations, a company can pull up stakes and use cheap foreign labor to make the same product it once did in America. It no longer has to meet environmental standards. It no longer has to abide by U.S. labor laws. It no longer has to pay a decent wage. Then the company can ship the product back to the United States where, courtesy of the rules, it will pay little if any duty. How can American workers hope to compete against that? They can't.

Lisa Gentner worked at a company called Carrollton Specialty Products, housed in a one-story warehouse in Moberly, Missouri, a town of 15,000 in central Missouri. Carrollton was a subcontractor for Hallmark Cards, the global greeting card giant based 125 miles west in Kansas City, Missouri. The largely female workforce of 200 provided the hand assembly for a variety of Hallmark products. They tied bows and affixed them to valentines and anniversary greetings. They glued buttons, rhinestones, and pop-ups inside birthday cards. They made gift baskets.

As in many towns across the country, the plant was an economic anchor for Moberly. Manufacturing is often pictured as a big-city enterprise, but a substantial number of plants are the lifeblood of small to medium-sized cities...."

Quote from p24 'Assault on the Middle Class' in 'The Betrayal of the American Dream' authors, Barlett and Steele.

What is a "fair wage"?
 
There isn't anything that can be done without a dramatic change in the culture. Jobs won't help. Many of these people won't work. Education doesn't help the students are proud of how stubbornly they can reject school. Rebuilding families is a non starter with the men proud of how many children they have with multiple women. Black culture has split off and become diseased.
 

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