House passes Ryan "budget"

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

The Ryan plan is unrealistic because it doesn't balance the budget until 2040. No future Congress is bound by the budget this Congress passes, therefore, the budget never gets balanced under the Ryan plan.

 

[alan1]

Paul Ryan Budget: House Passes Plan 228-191

aka The Rape Of The American People

Look Stephanie - the link is to HuffPo. Dose that mean its not true?

Note that this was a real vote. Not the phony vote they forced on the Obama budget. This one had actual numbers in it. Funny thing is, the senate won't pass this garbage and the president won't sign it.

IF the pres were to sign this shit, I'd be the first to say he should be impeached.

WTF is wrong with the rw's that they're in favor of having their own legs cut off?

Gotta love this,
snip

Overall, the GOP budget would cut spending $5.3 trillion more deeply over the next decade than Obama would

As if any federal budget stands for a decade.

 

[percysunshine]

Never let a progessive balance a checkbook. All sorts of imaginary deposits will appear as line items.

 

[uscitizen]

Which loopholes and Tax shelters does the Ryan budget close?

This is an Etch-a-Sketch budget.
shake it a bit and it all vanishes.

And yet the republican controlled house voted for it.

 

[hortysir]

Paul Ryan Budget: House Passes Plan 228-191

aka The Rape Of The American People

Look Stephanie - the link is to HuffPo. Dose that mean its not true?

Note that this was a real vote. Not the phony vote they forced on the Obama budget. This one had actual numbers in it. Funny thing is, the senate won't pass this garbage and the president won't sign it.

IF the pres were to sign this shit, I'd be the first to say he should be impeached.

WTF is wrong with the rw's that they're in favor of having their own legs cut off?

Funny thing is, you'll still call them a "do-nothing House".

Where's the Dem-Senate budget?

 

[Greenbeard]

a. Deficit in 2016
Obama: $529 billion
Ryan Plan $241 billion

There is no "Ryan Plan." Ryan asked the CBO to calculate what would happen if revenues and spending happened to be at certain levels he specified and entitlement spending grew at a rate he specified. He doesn't actually have a fucking clue as to how to achieve that.

Discretionary spending includes both defense spending and nondefense spending—in roughly equal amounts currently. That combination of other mandatory and discretionary spending was specified to decline from 12 percent of GDP in 2010 to about 6 percent in 2021 and then move in line with the GDP price deflator beginning in 2022, which would generate a further decline relative to GDP. No proposals were specified that would generate that path.

The path for revenues as a percentage of GDP was specified by Chairman Ryan’s staff. The path rises steadily from about 15 percent of GDP in 2010 to 19 percent in 2028 and remains at that level thereafter. There were no specifications of particular revenue provisions that would generate that path.

Under the specified path, average real (inflation-adjusted) spending for new enrollees in Medicare would rise in coming decades but at a much slower rate than would occur under the other policy scenarios that CBO has analyzed (see Figure 2). [...]

The implications of that substantial cut in spending relative to the other policy scenarios are unclear, because they would depend on both the specific policies that were implemented to generate that spending amount and the ways in which the nation’s health care and health insurance systems reacted to those policies.

 

[uscitizen]

The devil is in the details of which Ryans plan has none.
It is pure vaporware.

And the right is wholeheartedly behind it....

 

[zonly1]

The devil is in the details of which Ryans plan has none.
It is pure vaporware.

And the right is wholeheartedly behind it....

your comments are incoherent at best and don't counter in any way shape or form but only input an opinion from a source that we can locate w/o google map

 

[Sallow]

Paul Ryan Budget: House Passes Plan 228-191

aka The Rape Of The American People

Look Stephanie - the link is to HuffPo. Dose that mean its not true?

Note that this was a real vote. Not the phony vote they forced on the Obama budget. This one had actual numbers in it. Funny thing is, the senate won't pass this garbage and the president won't sign it.

IF the pres were to sign this shit, I'd be the first to say he should be impeached.

WTF is wrong with the rw's that they're in favor of having their own legs cut off?

I really do hope all Americans take a close look at this budget proposal. The idiot Republicans are trying to cut taxes even more when revenue is at its lowest level in the last 60 years. They are brain dead, completely brain dead. And they're going to try to tell us that by cutting the top income tax rate from 35% to 25%, we will increase tax revenue. They are absolutely brain dead and do not understand basic math concepts. This really is scary shit folks.

Absolutely. It also encourages greater income disparity as the top 1% think there will be no penalty for extracting even more wealth from the American economy.

 

[uscitizen]

The devil is in the details of which Ryans plan has none.
It is pure vaporware.

And the right is wholeheartedly behind it....

your comments are incoherent at best and don't counter in any way shape or form but only input an opinion from a source that we can locate w/o google map

Ok which tax shelters and loopholes does the Ryan Budget close?
There are no details in the Ryan Budget and yet the house passes it?

 

[Sallow]

The devil is in the details of which Ryans plan has none.
It is pure vaporware.

And the right is wholeheartedly behind it....

Of course. It crushes the poor and shovels hefty amounts of cash to the rich. What's not to love?

The six existing tax rates, topping off at 35 percent, would be reduced to two, 10 percent and 25 percent, while states would be allowed to place time limits, work requirements and other restrictions on programs from food stamps to welfare.

<snip


Under the Ryan plan, spending would be cut $5.3 trillion below President Obama’s budget through 2022. Medicare would be shaved by $205 billion. Medicaid and other health programs would be cut $770 billion. Other entitlement programs, including welfare, food stamps, agriculture subsidies and transportation, would be cut by nearly $2 trillion. Budget experts said that last figure was so high it could only be reached by scaling back or eliminating payments to the working poor through the earned income credit.

<snip

House Republicans argue that additional cuts to both discretionary and entitlement spending are needed now to head off automatic, $110 billion in across-the-board cuts to military and domestic programs in 2013.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/21/us/politics/house-republicans-release-budget-blueprint.html?_r=2

 

[uscitizen]

Text of the Ryan Budget Plan
By Meghan McCarthy

Updated: March 20, 2012 | 2:09 p.m.
March 20, 2012 | 1:35 p.m.
House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, R-Wis., offers more detail on just how he would achieve the goals outlined in his second budget blueprint, released Tuesday morning, in the legislative text of his budget resolution.

National Journal has obtained the 70-page bill, which will be marked up by the House Budget committee Wednesday morning.

Ryan’s Tuesday budget document did not mention the Medicare sustainable growth rate, a perennial headache that Congress regularly puts off to avoid big cuts to Medicare doctors pay. But in the legislative text, Ryan gives himself the ability to revise his budget resolution in the future, should Congress come up with a deficit-neutral way of undoing the $300 billion Medicare formula. That isn’t likely to happen soon.

Text of the Ryan Budget Plan - Meghan McCarthy - NationalJournal.com

The 70 page budget can be found at the above link.

A 70 page budget? must be full of details

 

[alan1]

Text of the Ryan Budget Plan
By Meghan McCarthy

Updated: March 20, 2012 | 2:09 p.m.
March 20, 2012 | 1:35 p.m.
House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, R-Wis., offers more detail on just how he would achieve the goals outlined in his second budget blueprint, released Tuesday morning, in the legislative text of his budget resolution.

National Journal has obtained the 70-page bill, which will be marked up by the House Budget committee Wednesday morning.

Ryan’s Tuesday budget document did not mention the Medicare sustainable growth rate, a perennial headache that Congress regularly puts off to avoid big cuts to Medicare doctors pay. But in the legislative text, Ryan gives himself the ability to revise his budget resolution in the future, should Congress come up with a deficit-neutral way of undoing the $300 billion Medicare formula. That isn’t likely to happen soon.

Text of the Ryan Budget Plan - Meghan McCarthy - NationalJournal.com

The 70 page budget can be found at the above link.

A 70 page budget? must be full of details

Heck, I can write the budget in 2 sentences.

How much did you spend last year?
Spend 20% less on everything except disabled veterans.

 

[usmcstinger]

Paul Ryan Budget: House Passes Plan 228-191

aka The Rape Of The American People

Look Stephanie - the link is to HuffPo. Dose that mean its not true?

Note that this was a real vote. Not the phony vote they forced on the Obama budget. This one had actual numbers in it. Funny thing is, the senate won't pass this garbage and the president won't sign it.

IF the pres were to sign this shit, I'd be the first to say he should be impeached.

WTF is wrong with the rw's that they're in favor of having their own legs cut off?

0-414 vote: House clobbers budget proposal based on Obama's 2013 plan
This means every democrat, Independent and Republican voted against Obama!

 

[Oldstyle]

If you libturds have a better plan, then out with it.

Doing nothing is a better plan then eliminating medicare, giving millionaires 6 trillion in more tax breaks and eliminating preventative health spending, energy efficient spending Pell grants, transportation investments etc etc etc

Ah yes...the usual progressive response when anyone with enough backbone to actually address the problems that ARE going to bankrupt the country puts forth proposals.

Ryan's plan does not "eliminate" Medicare. It does not give millionairs 6 trillion in tax breaks. It does not eliminate preventative health care spending. It does not eliminate energy efficient spending or Pell grants or transportation investments etc etc etc.

Here's the bottom line CHILDREN! We cannot continue to spend at the rate we are. It's unsustainable. We cannot do "nothing". That isn't a plan nor is it good policy. It's what this Administration has given us because we elected a man who voted "Present" whenever a tough issue came up. Paul Ryan is one of the few politician inside of the Beltway that is willing to risk political suicide to do the right thing and try to come up with workable solutions to both our long term debt and our struggling economy. If Barry had just a portion of the spine of Ryan he'd be doing the same thing. Instead he's kicking every political hot potato he can just as far down the road as possible. Being a "leader" means making tough decisions. Barack Obama has NEVER been capable of doing that.

 

[Trajan]

Paul Ryan Budget: House Passes Plan 228-191

aka The Rape Of The American People

Look Stephanie - the link is to HuffPo. Dose that mean its not true?

Note that this was a real vote. Not the phony vote they forced on the Obama budget. This one had actual numbers in it. Funny thing is, the senate won't pass this garbage and the president won't sign it.

IF the pres were to sign this shit, I'd be the first to say he should be impeached.

WTF is wrong with the rw's that they're in favor of having their own legs cut off?

phony vote......

the obama budget suggestion sheet got voted down 97-0 too last summer....note the last digit ZERO.....in the senate Goober.

as for the rest of your schlock; the budget process is a PROCESS nitwit, it never ever starts out the way its suggested or written initially. It bounces back between the house and senate till they reconcile ion a final bill then vote.

oh and its been 3 years, there is no filibuster ala reconciliation, why didn't the democratic party, when they had the house pass a budget?

 

[Trajan]

Paul Ryan Budget: House Passes Plan 228-191

aka The Rape Of The American People

Look Stephanie - the link is to HuffPo. Dose that mean its not true?

Note that this was a real vote. Not the phony vote they forced on the Obama budget. This one had actual numbers in it. Funny thing is, the senate won't pass this garbage and the president won't sign it.

IF the pres were to sign this shit, I'd be the first to say he should be impeached.

WTF is wrong with the rw's that they're in favor of having their own legs cut off?

0-414 vote: House clobbers budget proposal based on Obama's 2013 plan 0-414 vote: House clobbers budget proposal based on Obama's 2013 plan - The Hill's Floor Action

Every Democrat, Independent as well all Republicans voted against Obama.
No loyalty from the Dems this time.

he doesn't know what zero means unless he applies it to his intellect in rare moments of consciousness.

 

[Trajan]

The devil is in the details of which Ryans plan has none.
It is pure vaporware.

And the right is wholeheartedly behind it....

Of course. It crushes the poor and shovels hefty amounts of cash to the rich. What's not to love?

The six existing tax rates, topping off at 35 percent, would be reduced to two, 10 percent and 25 percent, while states would be allowed to place time limits, work requirements and other restrictions on programs from food stamps to welfare.

<snip


Under the Ryan plan, spending would be cut $5.3 trillion below President Obama&#8217;s budget through 2022. Medicare would be shaved by $205 billion. Medicaid and other health programs would be cut $770 billion. Other entitlement programs, including welfare, food stamps, agriculture subsidies and transportation, would be cut by nearly $2 trillion. Budget experts said that last figure was so high it could only be reached by scaling back or eliminating payments to the working poor through the earned income credit.

<snip

House Republicans argue that additional cuts to both discretionary and entitlement spending are needed now to head off automatic, $110 billion in across-the-board cuts to military and domestic programs in 2013.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/21/us/politics/house-republicans-release-budget-blueprint.html?_r=2

 

[Trajan]

Text of the Ryan Budget Plan
By Meghan McCarthy

Updated: March 20, 2012 | 2:09 p.m.
March 20, 2012 | 1:35 p.m.
House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, R-Wis., offers more detail on just how he would achieve the goals outlined in his second budget blueprint, released Tuesday morning, in the legislative text of his budget resolution.

National Journal has obtained the 70-page bill, which will be marked up by the House Budget committee Wednesday morning.

Ryan’s Tuesday budget document did not mention the Medicare sustainable growth rate, a perennial headache that Congress regularly puts off to avoid big cuts to Medicare doctors pay. But in the legislative text, Ryan gives himself the ability to revise his budget resolution in the future, should Congress come up with a deficit-neutral way of undoing the $300 billion Medicare formula. That isn’t likely to happen soon.

Text of the Ryan Budget Plan - Meghan McCarthy - NationalJournal.com

The 70 page budget can be found at the above link.

A 70 page budget? must be full of details

of course, nothing short of 2700 pages impresses you, we get it.

 

[Greenbeard]

Paul Ryan is one of the few politician inside of the Beltway that is willing to risk political suicide to do the right thing and try to come up with workable solutions to both our long term debt and our struggling economy.

What risk has Ryan taken in giving a big sloppy kiss to his base? I don't see any concessions to the other side of the aisle, nothing from Simpson-Bowles (which the very responsible Mr. Ryan voted against) that the right disliked.

The risk for him would be putting in deficit-cutting mechanisms that the left likes to balance those the right likes. Which is exactly what Simpson-Bowles was about. And, as we've seen, Ryan isn't quite courageous enough to go down that road.