House fails to extend Patriot Act surveillance as Republicans defect

[Sarah G]

House fails to extend Patriot Act surveillance as Republicans defect

The House on Tuesday night failed to approve legislation to extend surveillance authorities in the Patriot Act.

In a 277-148 vote, the house fell 23 votes short of the two-thirds majority necessary to move the bill under suspension of the rules. Passage required 290 votes.

More than two dozen Republicans bucked their leadership in the vote, by far the biggest defection for the House GOP since it took over the lower chamber. Until tonight's vote, Republicans voted together in all but two votes this year, and in those two votes, only one Republican voted with Democrats.

The bill, H.R. 514, would extend the authority that allows U.S. agents to conduct "roving surveillance" of targets, collect business records and other tangible intelligence records, and surveil solo operators who are not tied to a specific terrorist group but may pose a threat to the United States.
These authorities expire on February 28, which means the House may have to take up the measure quickly under a rule, which would make for a slower process but would also allow it to pass with a simple majority.

House fails to extend Patriot Act surveillance as Republicans defect - The Hill's Floor Action

Hmm, honeymoon's over.

 

[Sallow]

It's a good thing.

 

[Sarah G]

It's a good thing.

Agreed.

 

[johnrocks]

 

[Valerie]

Later in the debate, Kucinich said the Patriot Act expanded the list of agencies that are authorized to issue national security letters. But Sensenbrenner again responded by saying the authority for the letters was made permanent in 2006, and that the Patriot Act actually gave recipients of these letters the option of judicial review.

Sensenbrenner today also noted that House Democrats, such as then-House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers Jr. (D-Mich.), supported the extension last year when Democrats were in control of the House. In his closing remarks in the debate, current Chairman Lamar Smith (R-Texas) noted that the Obama administration supports the extension.

The White House actually supports a three-year extension, but said today it would accept the House Republican proposal to extend surveillance authorities until this December.

Interesting juxtaposition.

 

[EriktheRed]

Later in the debate, Kucinich said the Patriot Act expanded the list of agencies that are authorized to issue national security letters. But Sensenbrenner again responded by saying the authority for the letters was made permanent in 2006, and that the Patriot Act actually gave recipients of these letters the option of judicial review.

Sensenbrenner today also noted that House Democrats, such as then-House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers Jr. (D-Mich.), supported the extension last year when Democrats were in control of the House. In his closing remarks in the debate, current Chairman Lamar Smith (R-Texas) noted that the Obama administration supports the extension.

The White House actually supports a three-year extension, but said today it would accept the House Republican proposal to extend surveillance authorities until this December.

Interesting juxtaposition.

The Executive Branch likes having this power. It doesn't matter which party controls it.

 

[BolshevikHunter]

Good! It was Unconstitutional to begin with. ~BH

 

[RetiredGySgt]

House fails to extend Patriot Act surveillance as Republicans defect

The House on Tuesday night failed to approve legislation to extend surveillance authorities in the Patriot Act.

In a 277-148 vote, the house fell 23 votes short of the two-thirds majority necessary to move the bill under suspension of the rules. Passage required 290 votes.

More than two dozen Republicans bucked their leadership in the vote, by far the biggest defection for the House GOP since it took over the lower chamber. Until tonight's vote, Republicans voted together in all but two votes this year, and in those two votes, only one Republican voted with Democrats.

The bill, H.R. 514, would extend the authority that allows U.S. agents to conduct "roving surveillance" of targets, collect business records and other tangible intelligence records, and surveil solo operators who are not tied to a specific terrorist group but may pose a threat to the United States.
These authorities expire on February 28, which means the House may have to take up the measure quickly under a rule, which would make for a slower process but would also allow it to pass with a simple majority.

House fails to extend Patriot Act surveillance as Republicans defect - The Hill's Floor Action

Hmm, honeymoon's over.

Already a thread on this and the NO vote was only 148, something like 24 Republicans voted against it. They will simply redo it this time with a majority vote instead of a 2/3rds vote and it will pass.

 

[Sail Away]

House fails to extend Patriot Act surveillance as Republicans defect

The House on Tuesday night failed to approve legislation to extend surveillance authorities in the Patriot Act.

In a 277-148 vote, the house fell 23 votes short of the two-thirds majority necessary to move the bill under suspension of the rules. Passage required 290 votes.

More than two dozen Republicans bucked their leadership in the vote, by far the biggest defection for the House GOP since it took over the lower chamber. Until tonight's vote, Republicans voted together in all but two votes this year, and in those two votes, only one Republican voted with Democrats.

The bill, H.R. 514, would extend the authority that allows U.S. agents to conduct "roving surveillance" of targets, collect business records and other tangible intelligence records, and surveil solo operators who are not tied to a specific terrorist group but may pose a threat to the United States.
These authorities expire on February 28, which means the House may have to take up the measure quickly under a rule, which would make for a slower process but would also allow it to pass with a simple majority.

House fails to extend Patriot Act surveillance as Republicans defect - The Hill's Floor Action

Hmm, honeymoon's over.

I cried when I read this! Is it to early to start thinking that our government DOES support the wishes of the people? Thanks.

 

[xsited1]

The White House actually supports a three-year extension.

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.



The people are getting tired of Big Brother. It's about f'n time.

 

[saveliberty]

No CPR on this one please. Somebody stick a do not recesitate order on the Patriot Act.

 

[uscitizen]

Anyone know if the defecting republicans were TP types?

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Anyone know if the defecting republicans were TP types?

Pretty sure they were. The Democrats begged them to vote no. Doesn't matter in a majority vote this passes and any odious amendments get defeated. Only 148 voted no.

 

[Sheldon]

A step in the right direction, but it comes up for a vote again with the possibility of adding amendments I think.

8 of the 26 dissenting Republicans were freshman. Bachman, the quasi-leader of the TP, is not on that list of dissenters.



Here's the statement from the White House.

[FONT=&quot]The Administration strongly supports extension of three critical authorities that our Nation's intelligence and law enforcement agencies need to protect our national security. These authorities, which expire as of February 28, 2011 absent extension, are: (1) section 206 of the USA PATRIOT Act, which provides authority for roving surveillance of targets who take steps that may thwart Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act ("FISA") surveillance; (2) section 215 of the USA PATRIOT Act, which provides authority to compel production of business records and other tangible things with the approval of the FISA court; and (3) section 6001 of the Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act, which provides authority under FISA to target non-U.S. persons who engage in international terrorism or activities in preparation therefor, but are not necessarily associated with an identified terrorist group (the so-called "lone wolf" amendment). [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The Administration would strongly prefer enactment of reauthorizing legislation that would extend these authorities until December 2013. This approach would ensure appropriate congressional oversight by maintaining a sunset, but the longer duration provides the necessary certainty and predictability that our Nation's intelligence and law enforcement agencies require as they continue to protect our national security. However, the Administration does not object to H.R. 514, which, if enacted, would extend these authorities through December 8, 2011.[/FONT]
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[uscitizen]

Anyone know if the defecting republicans were TP types?

Pretty sure they were. The Democrats begged them to vote no. Doesn't matter in a majority vote this passes and any odious amendments get defeated. Only 148 voted no.

here is the list of the ONLY republicans voting against the extension. I am not familiar with Tea Party members anyone else know if they are or not? I actually hope they are.



Republicans voting against the bill were Reps. Justin Amash (Mich.), Roscoe Bartlett (Md.), Rob Bishop (Utah), Paul Broun (Ga.), John Campbell (Calif.), John Duncan (Tenn.), Mike Fitzpatrick (Pa.), Chris Gibson (N.Y.), Tom Graves (Ga.), Dean Heller (Nev.), Randy Hultgren (Ill.), Tim Johnson (Ill.), Walter Jones (N.C.), Jack Kingston (Ga.), Raul Labrador (Idaho), Connie Mack (Fla.), Kenny Marchant (Texas), Tom McClintock (Calif.), Ron Paul (Texas), Denny Rehberg (Mont.), Phil Roe (Tenn.), Dana Rohrabacher (Calif.), Bobby Schilling (Ill.), David Schweikert (Ariz.), Rob Woodall (Ga.), and Don Young (Alaska).

 

[Sheldon]

House TP Caucus:

Robert Aderholt (AL-4)
Todd Akin (MO-2)
Rodney Alexander (LA-5)
Michele Bachmann (MN-6)
Joe Barton (TX-6)
Roscoe Bartlett (MD-6)
Gus Bilirakis (FL-9)
Rob Bishop (UT-1)
Michael Burgess (TX-26)
Paul Broun (GA-10)
Dan Burton (IN-5)
John Carter (TX-31)
Howard Coble (NC-6)
Mike Coffman (CO-6)
Ander Crenshaw (FL-4)
John Culberson (TX-7)
John Fleming (LA-4)
Trent Franks (AZ-2)
Phil Gingrey (GA-11)
Louie Gohmert (TX-1)
Tom Graves (GA-9)
Ralph Hall (TX-4)
Gregg Harper (MS-3)
Wally Herger (CA-2)
Pete Hoekstra (MI-2)
Lynn Jenkins (KS-2)
Steve King (IA-5)
Doug Lamborn (CO-5)
Blaine Luetkemeyer (MO-9)
Cynthia Lummis (WY)
Kenny Marchant (TX-24)
Tom McClintock (CA-4)
Gary Miller (CA-42)
Jerry Moran (KS-1)
Sue Myrick (NC-9)
Randy Neugebauer (TX-19)
Mike Pence (IN-6)
Ted Poe (TX-2)
Tom Price (GA-6)
Denny Rehberg (MT)
Phil Roe (TN-1)
Ed Royce (CA-40)
Steve Scalise (LA-1)
Pete Sessions (TX-32)
John Shadegg (AZ-3)
Adrian Smith (NE-3)
Lamar Smith (TX-21)
Cliff Stearns (FL-6)
Todd Tiahrt (KS-4)
Zach Wamp (TN-3)
Lynn Westmoreland (GA-3)
Joe Wilson (SC-2)

Bold are the ones who voted against the extension

 

[uscitizen]

Umm just doing a count looks like several (at least half) of the TP cauucus members did not vote against the extension.

HMM they need to be identified and talked bad about on Glen Beck's show.

 

[Sheldon]

Umm just doing a count looks like several (at least half) of the TP cauucus members did not vote against the extension.

HMM they need to be identified and talked bad about on Glen Beck's show.

8 out of 52.

In MLB that kind of batting average gets you sent back to the minors.

 

[uscitizen]

Hows that Tea Party thing working out for ya on the right?

 

[BolshevikHunter]

Hows that Tea Party thing working out for ya on the right?

Grab some wood bub. You're talking out of your ass as if you're even anywhere close to even field goal range. You pukes are finished. Flapping your jaws about pipe dreams sounds real good but at the end of the day, The people spoke and the people will speak again. ~BH