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[CaughtInTheMid]

what's surprising to me is how easily we've let some of our personal freedoms slip away. in the past, americans have fought wars, lost lives and endured great hardship to guarantee personal freedoms. and in a decade or two we just let some of them go without a fight. that's shocking.

No one is forcing you to post on public sites.

did you think that posting on public sites was all i was talking about?

 

[Contumacious]

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Stasi

The Ministry for State Security (German: Ministerium für Staatssicherheit (MfS), commonly known as the Stasi (IPA: [ˈʃtaziː]) (abbreviation German: Staatssicherheit, literally State Security), was the official state security service of East Germany. The MfS was headquartered in East Berlin, with an extensive complex in Berlin-Lichtenberg and several smaller facilities throughout the city. It was widely regarded as one of the most effective and repressive intelligence and secret police agencies in the world. The MfS motto was "Schild und Schwert der Partei" (Shield and Sword of the Party), that is the ruling Socialist Unity Party of Germany (SED).

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[G.T.]

what's surprising to me is how easily we've let some of our personal freedoms slip away. in the past, americans have fought wars, lost lives and endured great hardship to guarantee personal freedoms. and in a decade or two we just let some of them go without a fight. that's shocking.

No one is forcing you to post on public sites.

did you think that posting on public sites was all i was talking about?

its what the OP is whining about.

 

[Mustang]

What's the problem?

 

[paulitician]

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The Ministry for State Security (German: Ministerium für Staatssicherheit (MfS), commonly known as the Stasi (IPA: [ˈʃtaziː]) (abbreviation German: Staatssicherheit, literally State Security), was the official state security service of East Germany. The MfS was headquartered in East Berlin, with an extensive complex in Berlin-Lichtenberg and several smaller facilities throughout the city. It was widely regarded as one of the most effective and repressive intelligence and secret police agencies in the world. The MfS motto was "Schild und Schwert der Partei" (Shield and Sword of the Party), that is the ruling Socialist Unity Party of Germany (SED).

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Oh yeah,have your papers on you at all times. The American Gestapo is here and is very real.

 

[Swagger]

Paulitician's doing a sterling job of convincing himself that Obama is sat outside his house in a black surveillance van monitoring his internet activity. Honestly, I'd love to see the look on his face if the DHS renewed his porn subscriptions as a gesture of goodwill and redress. Would the shoe be on the other foot/dick in the opposite hand? Who knows. But what I do know - coming from an ardent right-winger, too - is that the internet can be a dangerous interface. And like with all dangerous things, a certain degree of supervision's called for. A bit like when my drill instructor showed me how to use and handle an automatic weapon. They weren't about to let me loose on the range in case I carved up the other recruits. But they didn't watch me like a hawk or the rest of my service, either. If, on the otherhand, a routine traffic stop was prolonged on the strength of potentially seditious activity online, then alarm bells would begin to ring. But in this instance (USMB) any government employees tasked with monitoring what goes on here are in all probability only inclined to pass a few cursory glances over what's opined over. In short, there's nothing to really worry about. Unless you've got something to hide - like the armed insurrection against the incumbent administration liboc... sorry, Paulitician fantasizes about.

 

[CaughtInTheMid]

No one is forcing you to post on public sites.

did you think that posting on public sites was all i was talking about?

its what the OP is whining about.

are you at all concerned that we, in the last decade or so, have lost freedoms that our founders, and many along the way, have fought so hard for?

 

[Swagger]

did you think that posting on public sites was all i was talking about?

its what the OP is whining about.

are you at all concerned that we, in the last decade or so, have lost freedoms that our founders, and many along the way, have fought so hard for?

I'm fairly certain that the United States' Founding Fathers didn't anticipate the arrival of the internet and all the potential harm it could support when designing the Constitution.

If anything, you should be more concerned with how private corporations come to possess the email addresses they spam.

 

[G.T.]

did you think that posting on public sites was all i was talking about?

its what the OP is whining about.

are you at all concerned that we, in the last decade or so, have lost freedoms that our founders, and many along the way, have fought so hard for?

ive lost no freedoms in the last decade

 

[CaughtInTheMid]

its what the OP is whining about.

are you at all concerned that we, in the last decade or so, have lost freedoms that our founders, and many along the way, have fought so hard for?

ive lost no freedoms in the last decade

go here...

google.com

type this...

freedoms lost since 911

press ENTER


read without bias

 

[G.T.]

are you at all concerned that we, in the last decade or so, have lost freedoms that our founders, and many along the way, have fought so hard for?

ive lost no freedoms in the last decade

go here...

google.com

type this...

freedoms lost since 911

press ENTER


read without bias

0% effected. I know the claims.

 

[CaughtInTheMid]

ive lost no freedoms in the last decade

go here...

google.com

type this...

freedoms lost since 911

press ENTER


read without bias

0% effected. I know the claims.

i said "without" bias

 

[G.T.]

go here...

google.com

type this...

freedoms lost since 911

press ENTER


read without bias

0% effected. I know the claims.

i said "without" bias

0% effected

 

[CaughtInTheMid]

0% effected. I know the claims.

i said "without" bias

0% effected

i guess the large font proves that we haven't lost any freedoms.

 

[G.T.]

i said "without" bias

0% effected

i guess the large font proves that we haven't lost any freedoms.

Well, I said I haven't. See - I'm not a terrorist. I don't engage in suspicious activities that would put me in any sort of spotlight. I'm living much better, and financially freer, than I was a decade ago. Speak for yourself. And I'd much rather get on a plane (which is strictly voluntary in the first place) having more confidence than before that it won't blow up.

 

[g5000]

I always assume that websites are watched, it just doesn't bother me. There are methods of assured web anonymity, look into them if you are that worried, as for me I do not have any opinion I am ashamed of or fearful to post on any internet forum.

This is very stupid reasoning. Do you know why we have a 4th amendment? Because tyrannical governments have a bad habit of finding criminal activity when they look for it, even if it isn't there.

So your smug assumption that you are safe if you aren't doing anything wrong while the government peeps into your business is sheer idiocy.

 

[g5000]

Living in the area I do, I would rather the government monitored what we post on a PUBLIC website. When they start telling me what I can and cannot say on these PUBLIC sites...

...it will be too late.

 

[CaughtInTheMid]

0% effected

i guess the large font proves that we haven't lost any freedoms.

Well, I said I haven't. See - I'm not a terrorist. I don't engage in suspicious activities that would put me in any sort of spotlight. I'm living much better, and financially freer, than I was a decade ago. Speak for yourself. And I'd much rather get on a plane (which is strictly voluntary in the first place) having more confidence than before that it won't blow up.

i wasn't really talking about getting on a plane, but are you saying that something has changed at airports since 9/11?

 

[G.T.]

I always assume that websites are watched, it just doesn't bother me. There are methods of assured web anonymity, look into them if you are that worried, as for me I do not have any opinion I am ashamed of or fearful to post on any internet forum.

This is very stupid reasoning. Do you know why we have a 4th amendment? Because tyrants have a bad habit of finding criminal activity when they look for it, even if it isn't there.

So your smug assumption that you are safe if you aren't doing anything wrong while the government peeps into your business is sheer idiocy.

searching public forums doesnt violate the 4th. that's for your private person / home/ property.

 

[CaughtInTheMid]

I always assume that websites are watched, it just doesn't bother me. There are methods of assured web anonymity, look into them if you are that worried, as for me I do not have any opinion I am ashamed of or fearful to post on any internet forum.

This is very stupid reasoning. Do you know why we have a 4th amendment? Because tyrannical governments have a bad habit of finding criminal activity when they look for it, even if it isn't there.

So your smug assumption that you are safe if you aren't doing anything wrong while the government peeps into your business is sheer idiocy.

people don't really care about the 4th amendment anymore. they're too scared. heck, i bet many have never read it. here it is for those who haven't seen it...

"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."