History of Climate Science

[IsaacNewton]

Ignore Global Warming deniers. The science is settled and scientists are in agreement. Global Warming is real and accelerating.

They are like Flat Earthers, UFO abductees, Birthers...

97% consensus is a total fiction. You don't have a single Experiment, have to hide the decline and fudge the data, so we fully expect that you'll play fast and loose with the facts

You are lying pure and simple and you know you are lying.

Global Warming is real and the science is settled. No need to listen to anyone on any internet message board, go talk to someone at your local University science department. They can show anyone the irrefutable science in 15 minutes.

The denier cult is fast losing its battle to lie about this. The U.S. military has already started preparing for the effects of Global Warming.

 

[Politico]

97% of the PH.D's on Earth have agreed, there is no debate any more. PH.D means they have a doctorate, just like a medical doctor, in their chosen field. These are the smartest people alive.

Global Warming is real and accelerating.

No just because someone has a degree does not make them smart.

 

[bripat9643]

Rocks this is their intent. To make it 'appear' there is debate. They will never stop no matter what evidence there is because their purpose is to delay action in perpetuity.

That's why its best to say ignore the deniers and go talk to someone at your nearby University. Educating the public is the answer.

The denial cult only has one agenda, stopping any real action on curtailing the use of fossil fuels.

I agree post up factual information as you are doing. The real evidence needs to be out there. But they will argue with any amount of evidence there is. They don't want to win or lose the argument, they simply want it to appear there IS an argument.

Very true, however, we will never convince them, no matter what evidence is presented. It is the lurkers, the people that have not yet seen the evidence that we must post the scientists findings for. It is as Professor Cook states.

Absolutely post the evidence for people that aren't sure but do want to know the reality of Global Warming. I'm saying best to not engage the deniers as just the engagement is what they want.

For sure post the correct information and where to find it. Because you know the toadstools will be busy posting their poison.

 

[bripat9643]

97% of the PH.D's on Earth have agreed, there is no debate any more. PH.D means they have a doctorate, just like a medical doctor, in their chosen field. These are the smartest people alive.

Global Warming is real and accelerating.

"PHD" stands for "Piled higher and Deeper."

 

[IanC]

people with PhDs are universally 'smart'. but that doesnt mean they have common sense. in fact many 'smart' people go out of their way to concoct strange explanations for things, as a way of signalling their intelligence to others in academia.

an old Charlton essay on the subject- read the whole thing at Medical Hypotheses Clever Sillies - Why the high IQ lack common sense

In previous editorials I have written about the absent-minded and socially-inept ‘nutty professor’ stereotype in science, and the phenomenon of ‘psychological neoteny’ whereby intelligent modern people (including scientists) decline to grow-up and instead remain in a state of perpetual novelty-seeking adolescence. These can be seen as specific examples of the general phenomenon of ‘clever sillies’ whereby intelligent people with high levels of technical ability are seen (by the majority of the rest of the population) as having foolish ideas and behaviours outside the realm of their professional expertise. In short, it has often been observed that high IQ types are lacking in ‘common sense’ – and especially when it comes to dealing with other human beings. General intelligence is not just a cognitive ability; it is also a cognitive disposition. So, the greater cognitive abilities of higher IQ tend also to be accompanied by a distinctive high IQ personality type including the trait of ‘Openness to experience’, ‘enlightened’ or progressive left-wing political values, and atheism. Drawing on the ideas of Kanazawa, my suggested explanation for this association between intelligence and personality is that an increasing relative level of IQ brings with it a tendency differentially to over-use general intelligence in problem-solving, and to over-ride those instinctive and spontaneous forms of evolved behaviour which could be termed common sense. Preferential use of abstract analysis is often useful when dealing with the many evolutionary novelties to be found in modernizing societies; but is not usually useful for dealing with social and psychological problems for which humans have evolved ‘domain-specific’ adaptive behaviours. And since evolved common sense usually produces the right answers in the social domain; this implies that, when it comes to solving social problems, the most intelligent people are more likely than those of average intelligence to have novel but silly ideas, and therefore to believe and behave maladaptively. I further suggest that this random silliness of the most intelligent people may be amplified to generate systematic wrongness when intellectuals are in addition ‘advertising’ their own high intelligence in the evolutionarily novel context of a modern IQ meritocracy. The cognitively-stratified context of communicating almost-exclusively with others of similar intelligence, generates opinions and behaviours among the highest IQ people which are not just lacking in common sense but perversely wrong. Hence the phenomenon of ‘political correctness’ (PC); whereby false and foolish ideas have come to dominate, and moralistically be enforced upon, the ruling elites of whole nations

it is interesting to note that the same tactics for enforcing political correctness are being used to enforce belief in global warming.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Ignore Global Warming deniers. The science is settled and scientists are in agreement. Global Warming is real and accelerating.

They are like Flat Earthers, UFO abductees, Birthers...

Is your position so weak and indefensible that you can not provide facts to support your OP? So you resort to name calling and adhom attacks?

I love it when alarmist show themselves frauds and lairs by their own behavior.

 

[IsaacNewton]

Let's see, would people be smarter to accept the findings of the 97% of PH.D's on Earth who say the science is settled and Global Warming is real and accelerating. And the U.S. military who are preparing for the effects of Global Warming.

Or take the opinions of a few angry message board posters.

What to do what to do.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Let's see, would people be smarter to accept the findings of the 97% of PH.D's on Earth who say the science is settled and Global Warming is real and accelerating. And the U.S. military who are preparing for the effects of Global Warming.

Or take the opinions of a few angry message board posters.

What to do what to do.

Name them and the research papers, you know Damon well it was a myth by the over zealous left.

 

[bripat9643]

Let's see, would people be smarter to accept the findings of the 97% of PH.D's on Earth who say the science is settled and Global Warming is real and accelerating. And the U.S. military who are preparing for the effects of Global Warming.

Or take the opinions of a few angry message board posters.

What to do what to do.

This fraud has been exposed multiple times. 97% of PHDs don't support your alarmist claims about globull warming.

Anyone who says "the science is settled" obviously doesn't know diddly squat about science. The U.S. military does what the commie Obama tells them to do, so that proves nothing. Obama has turned NASA into a Muslim outreach operation.

 

[flacaltenn]

Let's see, would people be smarter to accept the findings of the 97% of PH.D's on Earth who say the science is settled and Global Warming is real and accelerating. And the U.S. military who are preparing for the effects of Global Warming.

Or take the opinions of a few angry message board posters.

What to do what to do.

What exactly IS the consensus that 97% of "climate scientists" supposedly agree on. Is it that the Earth will destroy itself if a "trigger" temperature is reached? Is there a specific temperature rise by 2060 that they all agree on?
Is it that man it TOTALLY responsible for the tiny 0.5degC temp. blip in your lifetime?

Or is it just that there's been a minor temp. increase and man is SOMEWHAT responsible for that?

Hard to get "consensus" on the pile of COULDs MIGHTs and POSSIBLYs that were interpreted in that flawed 97% study that gets tossed about.. How do reach consensus on COULDs and MIGHTs???

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Ignore Global Warming deniers. The science is settled and scientists are in agreement. Global Warming is real and accelerating.

They are like Flat Earthers, UFO abductees, Birthers...

97% consensus is a total fiction. You don't have a single Experiment, have to hide the decline and fudge the data, so we fully expect that you'll play fast and loose with the facts

You are lying pure and simple and you know you are lying.

Global Warming is real and the science is settled. No need to listen to anyone on any internet message board, go talk to someone at your local University science department. They can show anyone the irrefutable science in 15 minutes.

The denier cult is fast losing its battle to lie about this. The U.S. military has already started preparing for the effects of Global Warming.

There's no such thing as "Settled science" Gravity wasn't settled after Newton and even Relativity is open to challenge. You're describing religious beliefs of a Cult.

You sound like an Islamic Fanatic

 

[Treeshepherd]

Get educated people.

...

... about Milankovich cycles, oceanic oscillations, solar activity, chaos theory, the past few interglacial periods, and common fallacies in statistics.

Get educated by actually looking under the hood of some of these studies.

Get educated about the IPCC as a political body.

Look at the budgets and funding of NOAA, NASA and the EPA, and the stated justification for that funding.

And yes, study CO2. Study the logarithmic nature of CO2 forcing, including the law of diminishing returns where ppm needs to double for every added degree Celsius of warming. Study the unsettled speculative theory of amplifiers (does more CO2 always lead to more water vapor?).

Whatever you do, don't put on heavy blinders that cause you to mentally reduce "climate change" to merely "the effect of atmospheric CO2 on warming". That's like reducing the entire sport of football to place kicking.

 

[mamooth]

There's no such thing as "Settled science" Gravity wasn't settled after Newton and even Relativity is open to challenge. You're describing religious beliefs of a Cult.

Just like Frank here, the Jonestown cultists said they were the clear thinkers who knew the RealTruth, and that the whole outside world was wrong.

Normal people, those who haven't been lobotomized through cult brainwashing, they understand much science is settled _enough_. Gravity is settled enough that we can launch rockets. Climate science is settled enough that we know CO2 is causing global warming. The lack of knowing the last detail doesn't change that, or the correctness of saying some science is settled.

You sound like an Islamic Fanatic

Frank, you might want to slip into the jungle before your dying cult rolls out the koolaid vat.

But then, given your fanaticism, you'll be one of the cultists who mixes the batch and then forces the others to drink. You probably even look forward to it.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

There's no such thing as "Settled science" Gravity wasn't settled after Newton and even Relativity is open to challenge. You're describing religious beliefs of a Cult.

Just like Frank here, the Jonestown cultists said they were the clear thinkers who knew the RealTruth, and that the whole outside world was wrong.

Normal people, those who haven't been lobotomized through cult brainwashing, they understand much science is settled _enough_. Gravity is settled enough that we can launch rockets. Climate science is settled enough that we know CO2 is causing global warming. The lack of knowing the last detail doesn't change that, or the correctness of saying some science is settled.

You sound like an Islamic Fanatic

Frank, you might want to slip into the jungle before your dying cult rolls out the koolaid vat.

But then, given your fanaticism, you'll be one of the cultists who mixes the batch and then forces the others to drink. You probably even look forward to it.

Einstein is a Newtonian Gravity DENIER!!!

 

[KissMy]

We were freezing last night at Bush Stadium as the Cardinals beat the Giants. It's freaking mid August & it's 58 degrees right now! We got zero crops planted this year due to the Cold & Rainy planting season. Now it looks like an Early & Cold Winter is approaching.

 

[skookerasbil]

Bottom line on this...........they still have not made their case. Well documented in these pages. They think they have.......but the rest of the world isn't caring.

 

[IsaacNewton]

Get educated people.

...

... about Milankovich cycles, oceanic oscillations, solar activity, chaos theory, the past few interglacial periods, and common fallacies in statistics.

Get educated by actually looking under the hood of some of these studies.

Get educated about the IPCC as a political body.

Look at the budgets and funding of NOAA, NASA and the EPA, and the stated justification for that funding.

And yes, study CO2. Study the logarithmic nature of CO2 forcing, including the law of diminishing returns where ppm needs to double for every added degree Celsius of warming. Study the unsettled speculative theory of amplifiers (does more CO2 always lead to more water vapor?).

Whatever you do, don't put on heavy blinders that cause you to mentally reduce "climate change" to merely "the effect of atmospheric CO2 on warming". That's like reducing the entire sport of football to place kicking.

The denier cult is busy producing false information at the bidding of the energy industry.

There is no debate. The science on Global Warming has been settled among the PH.D's of the world for he last 15 years. The debate ended long ago.

Global Warming is real and accelerating. There is no debate.

 

[IanC]

Get educated people.

...

... about Milankovich cycles, oceanic oscillations, solar activity, chaos theory, the past few interglacial periods, and common fallacies in statistics.

Get educated by actually looking under the hood of some of these studies.

Get educated about the IPCC as a political body.

Look at the budgets and funding of NOAA, NASA and the EPA, and the stated justification for that funding.

And yes, study CO2. Study the logarithmic nature of CO2 forcing, including the law of diminishing returns where ppm needs to double for every added degree Celsius of warming. Study the unsettled speculative theory of amplifiers (does more CO2 always lead to more water vapor?).

Whatever you do, don't put on heavy blinders that cause you to mentally reduce "climate change" to merely "the effect of atmospheric CO2 on warming". That's like reducing the entire sport of football to place kicking.

The denier cult is busy producing false information at the bidding of the energy industry.

There is no debate. The science on Global Warming has been settled among the PH.D's of the world for he last 15 years. The debate ended long ago.

Global Warming is real and accelerating. There is no debate.

What was the value for climate sensitivity ten years ago when Gore was winning Oscars and Nobel Prizes for his global warming fairy tales? Settled science is not so settled.

BTW, what ever happened to Al Gore? Inconvenient mistakes seem to disappear from the global warming Scripture.

 

[mamooth]

Gore Rule invoked. Ian forfeits the thread for the deniers.

 

[jc456]

Ignore the people here and elsewhere that post up false information.

The science is settled. Everyone claiming 'hoax' has already been proven wrong by evidence.

The fact that they keep posting that same debunked evidence over and over points out how limited their argument is.

Ignore them. This isn't a political issue. It is a survival issue.

ok, you state evidence. What is the evidence?