Historical Question - Has anyone ever tried to add a right to healthcare as a constitutional amend.?

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    Therein lies your fault .... you continue to rabble about the "general welfare clause" using a generally discredited definition in order to justify your position. There is NO requirement for a health care plan - never has been, never will be. You need to get over your misconception that, somehow, the General Welfare clause gives you a mandate for a national health care plan.

    Your historical perspective is seriously lacking. You take two words, out of context, from the Constitution and try to create a strawman that justifies socializing health care under the guise of a "mandate" for the general welfare, even though "general welfare" is notoriously undefined.

    I strongly suggest you go back and read the Federalist Papers #41, and then read the Declaration of Independence in its entirety. You will find that both explicitly reject your twisted interpretation of the General Welfare clause.
     
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    We've provided Madison's explanation.

    But, typical to the arrogant ignorant of the world, they think they know it all....so why confuse things with historical facts.

    You've pretty much nailed it.

    No reason to bother with this person anymore.
     
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    The answer is still no to the OP.

    You don't see anyone trying now...they know it would never pass.
     
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    dear, you only have appeals to ignorance.

    The general welfare clause is a general power, along with paying the debts and providing for the common defense.
     
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    And it (passing an amendment to the Constitution) should be a minimum requirement for socializing health care.
     
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    Nope; providing for the general welfare covers it. The right wing needs a better solution at lower cost.
     
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    Take another bong hit, Daniel. That should cover it.
     
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    General welfare is just as comprehensive as general warfare and covers a common offense for that purpose.
     
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    You can keep repeating it and be no less wrong this time than you were the first time you said it.

    BTW: Saying someone, that has provided good information, is appealing to ignorance is simply thrashing in the dark.

    You are wrong.

    History proves you wrong.

    There is no effort on the part of the federal government to cover everyone...and if general welfare included health care....you can bet people would be suing to get it (and I would not blame them).

    So even the present shows you have no clue on that about which you speak.
     
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    dude; You don't know what you are talking about. The federal government maintains a Uniformed Health Service.
     

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