AsianTrumpSupporter

Platinum Member
Feb 26, 2017
4,264
1,126
390
Democratic People's Republique de Californie
Old book excerpts by Hillary Clinton reveal she used black prison labor

Twitter users have reacted with surprise and fury over excerpts from Hillary Clinton’s 1996 book It Takes A Village. On June 6, Jeanette Jing, an activist with over 33,000 followers on Twitter who supports Clinton's Democratic opponent Sen. Bernie Sanders, shared two pages of the work in which Clinton reminisces about the black prisoners who worked in the Arkansas governor’s mansion she shared with her husband, Bill Clinton, who led the state from 1979 to 1981 and 1983 to 1992.

“When we moved in, I was told that using prison labor at the governor’s mansion was a longstanding tradition, which kept down costs,” Clinton writes. She adds that most of the workers were convicted murderers and she became friendly with “a few of them, African-American men in their thirties who had already served 12 to 18 years of their sentences.”

Despite her alleged friendships with these men, Clinton tells her readers: “We enforced rules strictly and sent back to prison any inmate who broke a rule.” Despite having no psychological qualifications, she later asserts that these men did not have “inferior IQs or an inability to apply moral reasoning” but instead they may have been “emotional illiterates.”

Clinton makes no mention of whether the men received any money for working for her and her husband. A 2016 article from Mother Jones notes that when it comes to prison labor, “some state states, including Texas, Arkansas, and Georgia, do not pay inmates at all.” On Twitter, Jing wrote that “Hillary Clinton was a direct participant in what @samswey correctly described as modern slavery.”

Jing, who also refers to a June 5 Twitter conversation about the Clintons’ use of prison labor from Samuel Sinyangwe, an activist, data scientist and policy analyst. In a string of tweets, Sinyangwe talks about his experience of visiting the Louisiana state legislature and finding black prisoners serving white lawmakers for free. Sinyangwe adds that the state has the world’s highest incarceration rate, with black people making up 66 percent of the prison population. By comparison, black people make up 32 percent of Louisiana’s total population.

In her book, Clinton tried to soften the reality of unpaid black men serving a wealthy white woman. But, 1996, the year her book came out, was also the year she made a speech in New Hampshire in support of her husband’s controversial 1994 Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act.

Of the legislation, which critics say ramped up mass incarceration and disproportionately affected African-Americans, Clinton said: “We also have to have an organized effort against gangs. They are often the kinds of kids that are called superpredators—no conscience, no empathy. We can talk about why they ended up that way, but first, we have to bring them to heel.” (Clinton has since apologized for using the term and admitted parts of the 1994 bill were a mistake.)

The resurfacing of her book’s extract has dragged Clinton’s record on racial equality into the spotlight. Despite her reaching out to the black community during her 2008 and 2016 bids for the presidency, she actively supported and lobbied for her husband while more and more black people were sent to prison. Though Toni Morrison named Bill Clinton the country’s “first black president,” under his watch there was an 100:1 gram-to-gram sentencing disparity between people imprisoned for powdered cocaine possession and those imprisoned for crack cocaine...

Makes sense. After all, this was Bill Clinton's mentor:

J. William Fulbright - Wikipedia

James William Fulbright (April 9, 1905 – February 9, 1995) was a United States Senator representing Arkansas from January 1945 until his resignation in December 1974. Fulbright is the longest serving chairman in the history of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. A Southern Democrat and a staunch multilateralist who supported the creation of the United Nations, he was also a segregationist who signed the Southern Manifesto. Fulbright opposed McCarthyism and the House Un-American Activities Committee..

The Democrat Party is the party of the KKK, and Hollywood/the mainstream media is its Joseph Goebbels.
 
Wait. We're talking about a book review from 1996?

21 years ago?

[checks OP date]
 
How is prison labor a racist thing? Do you not think inmates should be able to work or contribute to the outside community?
 
The Democrat Party is the party of the KKK, and Hollywood/the mainstream media is its Joseph Goebbels.

The KKK has never had a political party, kkklown. I've mopped the floor with every clueless wag who has tried to float this turd and I'll mop you up too.
I don't know who the hell you think you mopped the floor with but if you seriously think you did it claiming the democrats aren't the party of slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow, segregation and inner city slums you're an idiot.
 
The Democrat Party is the party of the KKK, and Hollywood/the mainstream media is its Joseph Goebbels.

The KKK has never had a political party, kkklown. I've mopped the floor with every clueless wag who has tried to float this turd and I'll mop you up too.
I don't know who the hell you think you mopped the floor with but if you seriously think you did it claiming the democrats aren't the party of slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow, segregation and inner city slums you're an idiot.

{goes to bat rack, selects lumber....}

Let's just go with the most recent. Just because it's handy. This was in response to one of y'all mythologists who tried to sell "every Klan member was a Democrat" --- as if every person has a political party at all :rofl:

Here's your history. With details.

The Klan was founded on Christmas 1865 by Capt. John Lester, Capt. John B. Kennedy, James Crowe, Frank McCord, Richard Reed and Calvin Jones, in Jones' father's law office at 205 West Madison Street in Pulaski Tennessee. All of the six were twentysomething ex-Confederate soldiers and zero of them had any known political affiliations -- not that there was any voting going on in 1865 Tennessee anyway.

Moreover their stated purpose was a frivolous address of boredom (hence all the whimsical K-alliterations of Klan, kleagle, klavern, etc) and had nothing to do with elements that took it over from the six founders, elements made up of the "night riders" that had been already going on since the eighteenth century, before the United States existed as a country.

That Klan lasted less than a decade and would have been relegated to the historical scrapheap with literally dozens of similar vigilante groups that sprang up in the same era including Caucasian Club(s) (Louisiana 1869), Heroes of America (South Carolina), Knights of the Black Cross (Mississippi), Knights of the Rising Sun (Texas 1868), Knights of the White Camellia (Louisiana 1867-69), Knights of the White Carnation (Alabama), Native Sons of the South (Mississippi), Order of Pale Faces (Tennessee 1869 or 1867, Society of the White Rose (Mississippi) and the White League (Louisiana 1874) --- which was the organization commemorated in the "Liberty Place" monument that was recently removed by the City of New Orleans...

---------- if not for William J. "Colonel Joe" Simmons, who took a gaggle of guys who had lynched a Jew up Stone Mountain on Thanksgiving Day 1915 in a rented bus where they burned a cross and rekindled the ("Knights of the") Ku Klux Klan, which upon hiring a PR team became by far the largest and most pervasive iteration of the Klan.

Simmons was an ex-Methodist minister, salesman, huckster, drunk (ironic since his Klan was staunchly pro-Prohibition) and inveterate club-joiner who was looking to (and did) make money from membership fees. He too had no political affiliation.

Easy enough to demonstrate who the Klan was not. So who actually were they?

"Lifting the Klan mask [19th Century version] revealed a chaotic multitude of antiblack vigilante groups, disgruntled poor white farmers, wartime guerrilla bands, displaced Democratic politicians, illegal whiskey distillers, coercive moral reformers, bored young men, sadists, rapists, white workmen fearful of black competition, employers trying to enforce labor discipline, common thieves, neighbors with decades-old grudges, and even a few freedmen and white Republicans who allied with Democratic whites or had criminal agendas of their own." --- Elaine Frantz Parsons, Ku Klux: "The Birth of the Klan During Reconstruction" (UNC Press) p. 816

As far as "every Klan member was a Democrat", already an absurd statement on its face as it ass-umes everybody in existence is even registered with a political party, I give you:

Owen Brewster -- Maine Governor, Congresscritter and Joe McCarthy apologist. Klan and Republican.
Rice Means -- Senator, Colorado. Klan, Republican.
George Baker -- Mayor Portland Oregon. Klan, Republican.
4/5 of the City Council of Anaheim (1924) --- Klan, Republican
Clarence Morley -- Governor, Colorado. Klan, Republican
Ed Jackson -- Governor, Indiana. Klan, Republican.

Speaking of Ed Jackson and Indiana -- which accomplished the dubious feat of having the largest concentration of its population in the KKK:



Oh and also Charles Bowles, who won the 1930 mayoral election in Detroit, as a write-in. Agan, Klan, no party at all.

In Maine, Klan Republicans were opposed by anti-Klan Republicans, Maine being as overwhelmingly Republican as the "solid South" was Democrat. And in the South, Klan Democrats were opposed by anti-Klan Democrats.

The Klan supported, or opposed, Republicans, or Democrats, depending on what served its interest in that time and place. That is, when it dabbled in politics at all and wasn't going after drinkers, labor unions, blacks, Jews, Catholics, adulterers and in at least one case whipping a (white) woman for "not going to church".

You go right ahead and try to prove ANY of that erroneous. I've given you details. Go fetch.

So much for mythology. You don't sell bullshit on my watch.

Oh yeah I've got plenty more. :Boom2:
 
Last edited:
Old book excerpts by Hillary Clinton reveal she used black prison labor

Twitter users have reacted with surprise and fury over excerpts from Hillary Clinton’s 1996 book It Takes A Village. On June 6, Jeanette Jing, an activist with over 33,000 followers on Twitter who supports Clinton's Democratic opponent Sen. Bernie Sanders, shared two pages of the work in which Clinton reminisces about the black prisoners who worked in the Arkansas governor’s mansion she shared with her husband, Bill Clinton, who led the state from 1979 to 1981 and 1983 to 1992.

“When we moved in, I was told that using prison labor at the governor’s mansion was a longstanding tradition, which kept down costs,” Clinton writes. She adds that most of the workers were convicted murderers and she became friendly with “a few of them, African-American men in their thirties who had already served 12 to 18 years of their sentences.”

Despite her alleged friendships with these men, Clinton tells her readers: “We enforced rules strictly and sent back to prison any inmate who broke a rule.” Despite having no psychological qualifications, she later asserts that these men did not have “inferior IQs or an inability to apply moral reasoning” but instead they may have been “emotional illiterates.”

Clinton makes no mention of whether the men received any money for working for her and her husband. A 2016 article from Mother Jones notes that when it comes to prison labor, “some state states, including Texas, Arkansas, and Georgia, do not pay inmates at all.” On Twitter, Jing wrote that “Hillary Clinton was a direct participant in what @samswey correctly described as modern slavery.”

Jing, who also refers to a June 5 Twitter conversation about the Clintons’ use of prison labor from Samuel Sinyangwe, an activist, data scientist and policy analyst. In a string of tweets, Sinyangwe talks about his experience of visiting the Louisiana state legislature and finding black prisoners serving white lawmakers for free. Sinyangwe adds that the state has the world’s highest incarceration rate, with black people making up 66 percent of the prison population. By comparison, black people make up 32 percent of Louisiana’s total population.

In her book, Clinton tried to soften the reality of unpaid black men serving a wealthy white woman. But, 1996, the year her book came out, was also the year she made a speech in New Hampshire in support of her husband’s controversial 1994 Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act.

Of the legislation, which critics say ramped up mass incarceration and disproportionately affected African-Americans, Clinton said: “We also have to have an organized effort against gangs. They are often the kinds of kids that are called superpredators—no conscience, no empathy. We can talk about why they ended up that way, but first, we have to bring them to heel.” (Clinton has since apologized for using the term and admitted parts of the 1994 bill were a mistake.)

The resurfacing of her book’s extract has dragged Clinton’s record on racial equality into the spotlight. Despite her reaching out to the black community during her 2008 and 2016 bids for the presidency, she actively supported and lobbied for her husband while more and more black people were sent to prison. Though Toni Morrison named Bill Clinton the country’s “first black president,” under his watch there was an 100:1 gram-to-gram sentencing disparity between people imprisoned for powdered cocaine possession and those imprisoned for crack cocaine...

Makes sense. After all, this was Bill Clinton's mentor:

J. William Fulbright - Wikipedia

James William Fulbright (April 9, 1905 – February 9, 1995) was a United States Senator representing Arkansas from January 1945 until his resignation in December 1974. Fulbright is the longest serving chairman in the history of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. A Southern Democrat and a staunch multilateralist who supported the creation of the United Nations, he was also a segregationist who signed the Southern Manifesto. Fulbright opposed McCarthyism and the House Un-American Activities Committee..

The Democrat Party is the party of the KKK, and Hollywood/the mainstream media is its Joseph Goebbels.

Look into what the Clinton's did with a Blood selling enterprise.
 
Old book excerpts by Hillary Clinton reveal she used black prison labor

Twitter users have reacted with surprise and fury over excerpts from Hillary Clinton’s 1996 book It Takes A Village. On June 6, Jeanette Jing, an activist with over 33,000 followers on Twitter who supports Clinton's Democratic opponent Sen. Bernie Sanders, shared two pages of the work in which Clinton reminisces about the black prisoners who worked in the Arkansas governor’s mansion she shared with her husband, Bill Clinton, who led the state from 1979 to 1981 and 1983 to 1992.

“When we moved in, I was told that using prison labor at the governor’s mansion was a longstanding tradition, which kept down costs,” Clinton writes. She adds that most of the workers were convicted murderers and she became friendly with “a few of them, African-American men in their thirties who had already served 12 to 18 years of their sentences.”

Despite her alleged friendships with these men, Clinton tells her readers: “We enforced rules strictly and sent back to prison any inmate who broke a rule.” Despite having no psychological qualifications, she later asserts that these men did not have “inferior IQs or an inability to apply moral reasoning” but instead they may have been “emotional illiterates.”

Clinton makes no mention of whether the men received any money for working for her and her husband. A 2016 article from Mother Jones notes that when it comes to prison labor, “some state states, including Texas, Arkansas, and Georgia, do not pay inmates at all.” On Twitter, Jing wrote that “Hillary Clinton was a direct participant in what @samswey correctly described as modern slavery.”

Jing, who also refers to a June 5 Twitter conversation about the Clintons’ use of prison labor from Samuel Sinyangwe, an activist, data scientist and policy analyst. In a string of tweets, Sinyangwe talks about his experience of visiting the Louisiana state legislature and finding black prisoners serving white lawmakers for free. Sinyangwe adds that the state has the world’s highest incarceration rate, with black people making up 66 percent of the prison population. By comparison, black people make up 32 percent of Louisiana’s total population.

In her book, Clinton tried to soften the reality of unpaid black men serving a wealthy white woman. But, 1996, the year her book came out, was also the year she made a speech in New Hampshire in support of her husband’s controversial 1994 Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act.

Of the legislation, which critics say ramped up mass incarceration and disproportionately affected African-Americans, Clinton said: “We also have to have an organized effort against gangs. They are often the kinds of kids that are called superpredators—no conscience, no empathy. We can talk about why they ended up that way, but first, we have to bring them to heel.” (Clinton has since apologized for using the term and admitted parts of the 1994 bill were a mistake.)

The resurfacing of her book’s extract has dragged Clinton’s record on racial equality into the spotlight. Despite her reaching out to the black community during her 2008 and 2016 bids for the presidency, she actively supported and lobbied for her husband while more and more black people were sent to prison. Though Toni Morrison named Bill Clinton the country’s “first black president,” under his watch there was an 100:1 gram-to-gram sentencing disparity between people imprisoned for powdered cocaine possession and those imprisoned for crack cocaine...

Makes sense. After all, this was Bill Clinton's mentor:

J. William Fulbright - Wikipedia

James William Fulbright (April 9, 1905 – February 9, 1995) was a United States Senator representing Arkansas from January 1945 until his resignation in December 1974. Fulbright is the longest serving chairman in the history of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. A Southern Democrat and a staunch multilateralist who supported the creation of the United Nations, he was also a segregationist who signed the Southern Manifesto. Fulbright opposed McCarthyism and the House Un-American Activities Committee..

The Democrat Party is the party of the KKK, and Hollywood/the mainstream media is its Joseph Goebbels.

Look into what the Clinton's did with a Blood selling enterprise.

I'll look into it. Headed to a friend's pad to watch the game.
 
The Democrat Party is the party of the KKK, and Hollywood/the mainstream media is its Joseph Goebbels.

The KKK has never had a political party, kkklown. I've mopped the floor with every clueless wag who has tried to float this turd and I'll mop you up too.
I don't know who the hell you think you mopped the floor with but if you seriously think you did it claiming the democrats aren't the party of slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow, segregation and inner city slums you're an idiot.

{goes to bat rack, selects lumber....}

Let's just go with the most recent. Just because it's handy. This was in response to one of y'all mythologists who tried to sell "every Klan member was a Democrat" --- as if every person has a political party at all :rofl:

Here's your history. With details.

The Klan was founded on Christmas 1865 by Capt. John Lester, Capt. John B. Kennedy, James Crowe, Frank McCord, Richard Reed and Calvin Jones, in Jones' father's law office at 205 West Madison Street in Pulaski Tennessee. All of the six were twentysomething ex-Confederate soldiers and zero of them had any known political affiliations -- not that there was any voting going on in 1865 Tennessee anyway.

Moreover their stated purpose was a frivolous address of boredom (hence all the whimsical K-alliterations of Klan, kleagle, klavern, etc) and had nothing to do with elements that took it over from the six founders, elements made up of the "night riders" that had been already going on since the eighteenth century, before the United States existed as a country.

That Klan lasted less than a decade and would have been relegated to the historical scrapheap with literally dozens of similar vigilante groups that sprang up in the same era including Caucasian Club(s) (Louisiana 1869), Heroes of America (South Carolina), Knights of the Black Cross (Mississippi), Knights of the Rising Sun (Texas 1868), Knights of the White Camellia (Louisiana 1867-69), Knights of the White Carnation (Alabama), Native Sons of the South (Mississippi), Order of Pale Faces (Tennessee 1869 or 1867, Society of the White Rose (Mississippi) and the White League (Louisiana 1874) --- which was the organization commemorated in the "Liberty Place" monument that was recently removed by the City of New Orleans...

---------- if not for William J. "Colonel Joe" Simmons, who took a gaggle of guys who had lynched a Jew up Stone Mountain on Thanksgiving Day 1915 in a rented bus where they burned a cross and rekindled the ("Knights of the") Ku Klux Klan, which upon hiring a PR team became by far the largest and most pervasive iteration of the Klan.

Simmons was an ex-Methodist minister, salesman, huckster, drunk (ironic since his Klan was staunchly pro-Prohibition) and inveterate club-joiner who was looking to (and did) make money from membership fees. He too had no political affiliation.

Easy enough to demonstrate who the Klan was not. So who actually were they?

"Lifting the Klan mask [19th Century version] revealed a chaotic multitude of antiblack vigilante groups, disgruntled poor white farmers, wartime guerrilla bands, displaced Democratic politicians, illegal whiskey distillers, coercive moral reformers, bored young men, sadists, rapists, white workmen fearful of black competition, employers trying to enforce labor discipline, common thieves, neighbors with decades-old grudges, and even a few freedmen and white Republicans who allied with Democratic whites or had criminal agendas of their own." --- Elaine Frantz Parsons, Ku Klux: "The Birth of the Klan During Reconstruction" (UNC Press) p. 816

As far as "every Klan member was a Democrat", already an absurd statement on its face as it ass-umes everybody in existence is even registered with a political party, I give you:

Owen Brewster -- Maine Governor, Congresscritter and Joe McCarthy apologist. Klan and Republican.
Rice Means -- Senator, Colorado. Klan, Republican.
George Baker -- Mayor Portland Oregon. Klan, Republican.
4/5 of the City Council of Anaheim (1924) --- Klan, Republican
Clarence Morley -- Governor, Colorado. Klan, Republican
Ed Jackson -- Governor, Indiana. Klan, Republican.

Speaking of Ed Jackson and Indiana -- which accomplished the dubious feat of having the largest concentration of its population in the KKK:



Oh and also Charles Bowles, who won the 1930 mayoral election in Detroit, as a write-in. Agan, Klan, no party at all.

In Maine, Klan Republicans were opposed by anti-Klan Republicans, Maine being as overwhelmingly Republican as the "solid South" was Democrat. And in the South, Klan Democrats were opposed by anti-Klan Democrats.

The Klan supported, or opposed, Republicans, or Democrats, depending on what served its interest in that time and place. That is, when it dabbled in politics at all and wasn't going after drinkers, labor unions, blacks, Jews, Catholics, adulterers and in at least one case whipping a (white) woman for "not going to church".

You go right ahead and try to prove ANY of that erroneous. I've given you details. Go fetch.

So much for mythology. You don't sell bullshit on my watch.

Oh yeah I've got plenty more. :Boom2:

Oh man look out you found a governor, a mayor and a city council! Holy shit!

Let's look at the civil rights act of 1957. You know the nation's laws not some city.

The senate vote.
Dem yea- 29
Rep yea- 43
Dem nay- 18
Rep nay- 0

You're free to post whatever stupid shit you have in your files. I'm bringing some fucking upper cut all over this convo.
 
The Democrat Party is the party of the KKK, and Hollywood/the mainstream media is its Joseph Goebbels.

The KKK has never had a political party, kkklown. I've mopped the floor with every clueless wag who has tried to float this turd and I'll mop you up too.
I don't know who the hell you think you mopped the floor with but if you seriously think you did it claiming the democrats aren't the party of slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow, segregation and inner city slums you're an idiot.

{goes to bat rack, selects lumber....}

Let's just go with the most recent. Just because it's handy. This was in response to one of y'all mythologists who tried to sell "every Klan member was a Democrat" --- as if every person has a political party at all :rofl:

Here's your history. With details.

The Klan was founded on Christmas 1865 by Capt. John Lester, Capt. John B. Kennedy, James Crowe, Frank McCord, Richard Reed and Calvin Jones, in Jones' father's law office at 205 West Madison Street in Pulaski Tennessee. All of the six were twentysomething ex-Confederate soldiers and zero of them had any known political affiliations -- not that there was any voting going on in 1865 Tennessee anyway.

Moreover their stated purpose was a frivolous address of boredom (hence all the whimsical K-alliterations of Klan, kleagle, klavern, etc) and had nothing to do with elements that took it over from the six founders, elements made up of the "night riders" that had been already going on since the eighteenth century, before the United States existed as a country.

That Klan lasted less than a decade and would have been relegated to the historical scrapheap with literally dozens of similar vigilante groups that sprang up in the same era including Caucasian Club(s) (Louisiana 1869), Heroes of America (South Carolina), Knights of the Black Cross (Mississippi), Knights of the Rising Sun (Texas 1868), Knights of the White Camellia (Louisiana 1867-69), Knights of the White Carnation (Alabama), Native Sons of the South (Mississippi), Order of Pale Faces (Tennessee 1869 or 1867, Society of the White Rose (Mississippi) and the White League (Louisiana 1874) --- which was the organization commemorated in the "Liberty Place" monument that was recently removed by the City of New Orleans...

---------- if not for William J. "Colonel Joe" Simmons, who took a gaggle of guys who had lynched a Jew up Stone Mountain on Thanksgiving Day 1915 in a rented bus where they burned a cross and rekindled the ("Knights of the") Ku Klux Klan, which upon hiring a PR team became by far the largest and most pervasive iteration of the Klan.

Simmons was an ex-Methodist minister, salesman, huckster, drunk (ironic since his Klan was staunchly pro-Prohibition) and inveterate club-joiner who was looking to (and did) make money from membership fees. He too had no political affiliation.

Easy enough to demonstrate who the Klan was not. So who actually were they?

"Lifting the Klan mask [19th Century version] revealed a chaotic multitude of antiblack vigilante groups, disgruntled poor white farmers, wartime guerrilla bands, displaced Democratic politicians, illegal whiskey distillers, coercive moral reformers, bored young men, sadists, rapists, white workmen fearful of black competition, employers trying to enforce labor discipline, common thieves, neighbors with decades-old grudges, and even a few freedmen and white Republicans who allied with Democratic whites or had criminal agendas of their own." --- Elaine Frantz Parsons, Ku Klux: "The Birth of the Klan During Reconstruction" (UNC Press) p. 816

As far as "every Klan member was a Democrat", already an absurd statement on its face as it ass-umes everybody in existence is even registered with a political party, I give you:

Owen Brewster -- Maine Governor, Congresscritter and Joe McCarthy apologist. Klan and Republican.
Rice Means -- Senator, Colorado. Klan, Republican.
George Baker -- Mayor Portland Oregon. Klan, Republican.
4/5 of the City Council of Anaheim (1924) --- Klan, Republican
Clarence Morley -- Governor, Colorado. Klan, Republican
Ed Jackson -- Governor, Indiana. Klan, Republican.

Speaking of Ed Jackson and Indiana -- which accomplished the dubious feat of having the largest concentration of its population in the KKK:



Oh and also Charles Bowles, who won the 1930 mayoral election in Detroit, as a write-in. Agan, Klan, no party at all.

In Maine, Klan Republicans were opposed by anti-Klan Republicans, Maine being as overwhelmingly Republican as the "solid South" was Democrat. And in the South, Klan Democrats were opposed by anti-Klan Democrats.

The Klan supported, or opposed, Republicans, or Democrats, depending on what served its interest in that time and place. That is, when it dabbled in politics at all and wasn't going after drinkers, labor unions, blacks, Jews, Catholics, adulterers and in at least one case whipping a (white) woman for "not going to church".

You go right ahead and try to prove ANY of that erroneous. I've given you details. Go fetch.

So much for mythology. You don't sell bullshit on my watch.

Oh yeah I've got plenty more. :Boom2:



04f38ef126ee1c5f178037eede68bd1c.jpg
 
The Democrat Party is the party of the KKK, and Hollywood/the mainstream media is its Joseph Goebbels.

The KKK has never had a political party, kkklown. I've mopped the floor with every clueless wag who has tried to float this turd and I'll mop you up too.
I don't know who the hell you think you mopped the floor with but if you seriously think you did it claiming the democrats aren't the party of slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow, segregation and inner city slums you're an idiot.

{goes to bat rack, selects lumber....}

Let's just go with the most recent. Just because it's handy. This was in response to one of y'all mythologists who tried to sell "every Klan member was a Democrat" --- as if every person has a political party at all :rofl:

Here's your history. With details.

The Klan was founded on Christmas 1865 by Capt. John Lester, Capt. John B. Kennedy, James Crowe, Frank McCord, Richard Reed and Calvin Jones, in Jones' father's law office at 205 West Madison Street in Pulaski Tennessee. All of the six were twentysomething ex-Confederate soldiers and zero of them had any known political affiliations -- not that there was any voting going on in 1865 Tennessee anyway.

Moreover their stated purpose was a frivolous address of boredom (hence all the whimsical K-alliterations of Klan, kleagle, klavern, etc) and had nothing to do with elements that took it over from the six founders, elements made up of the "night riders" that had been already going on since the eighteenth century, before the United States existed as a country.

That Klan lasted less than a decade and would have been relegated to the historical scrapheap with literally dozens of similar vigilante groups that sprang up in the same era including Caucasian Club(s) (Louisiana 1869), Heroes of America (South Carolina), Knights of the Black Cross (Mississippi), Knights of the Rising Sun (Texas 1868), Knights of the White Camellia (Louisiana 1867-69), Knights of the White Carnation (Alabama), Native Sons of the South (Mississippi), Order of Pale Faces (Tennessee 1869 or 1867, Society of the White Rose (Mississippi) and the White League (Louisiana 1874) --- which was the organization commemorated in the "Liberty Place" monument that was recently removed by the City of New Orleans...

---------- if not for William J. "Colonel Joe" Simmons, who took a gaggle of guys who had lynched a Jew up Stone Mountain on Thanksgiving Day 1915 in a rented bus where they burned a cross and rekindled the ("Knights of the") Ku Klux Klan, which upon hiring a PR team became by far the largest and most pervasive iteration of the Klan.

Simmons was an ex-Methodist minister, salesman, huckster, drunk (ironic since his Klan was staunchly pro-Prohibition) and inveterate club-joiner who was looking to (and did) make money from membership fees. He too had no political affiliation.

Easy enough to demonstrate who the Klan was not. So who actually were they?

"Lifting the Klan mask [19th Century version] revealed a chaotic multitude of antiblack vigilante groups, disgruntled poor white farmers, wartime guerrilla bands, displaced Democratic politicians, illegal whiskey distillers, coercive moral reformers, bored young men, sadists, rapists, white workmen fearful of black competition, employers trying to enforce labor discipline, common thieves, neighbors with decades-old grudges, and even a few freedmen and white Republicans who allied with Democratic whites or had criminal agendas of their own." --- Elaine Frantz Parsons, Ku Klux: "The Birth of the Klan During Reconstruction" (UNC Press) p. 816

As far as "every Klan member was a Democrat", already an absurd statement on its face as it ass-umes everybody in existence is even registered with a political party, I give you:

Owen Brewster -- Maine Governor, Congresscritter and Joe McCarthy apologist. Klan and Republican.
Rice Means -- Senator, Colorado. Klan, Republican.
George Baker -- Mayor Portland Oregon. Klan, Republican.
4/5 of the City Council of Anaheim (1924) --- Klan, Republican
Clarence Morley -- Governor, Colorado. Klan, Republican
Ed Jackson -- Governor, Indiana. Klan, Republican.

Speaking of Ed Jackson and Indiana -- which accomplished the dubious feat of having the largest concentration of its population in the KKK:



Oh and also Charles Bowles, who won the 1930 mayoral election in Detroit, as a write-in. Agan, Klan, no party at all.

In Maine, Klan Republicans were opposed by anti-Klan Republicans, Maine being as overwhelmingly Republican as the "solid South" was Democrat. And in the South, Klan Democrats were opposed by anti-Klan Democrats.

The Klan supported, or opposed, Republicans, or Democrats, depending on what served its interest in that time and place. That is, when it dabbled in politics at all and wasn't going after drinkers, labor unions, blacks, Jews, Catholics, adulterers and in at least one case whipping a (white) woman for "not going to church".

You go right ahead and try to prove ANY of that erroneous. I've given you details. Go fetch.

So much for mythology. You don't sell bullshit on my watch.

Oh yeah I've got plenty more. :Boom2:

Oh man look out you found a governor, a mayor and a city council! Holy shit!

Let's look at the civil rights act of 1957. You know the nation's laws not some city.

The senate vote.
Dem yea- 29
Rep yea- 43
Dem nay- 18
Rep nay- 0

You're free to post whatever stupid shit you have in your files. I'm bringing some fucking upper cut all over this convo.


Abandoning ship cap'm?

Don't blame ya. You can't win this. Cannot be done, QED.

Yeah that list was copied over from the kkklown who tried to float the "all Klan are Democrats" turd (in spite of this inconvenient guy, who I didn't even bring up ---- kind of the elephant in the room)....

Screen-Shot-2015-12-29-at-12.27.57-AM.png

But hey, I can flesh out any part you want. 'Cause I dig history.
 
Last edited:
The Democrat Party is the party of the KKK, and Hollywood/the mainstream media is its Joseph Goebbels.

The KKK has never had a political party, kkklown. I've mopped the floor with every clueless wag who has tried to float this turd and I'll mop you up too.
I don't know who the hell you think you mopped the floor with but if you seriously think you did it claiming the democrats aren't the party of slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow, segregation and inner city slums you're an idiot.

{goes to bat rack, selects lumber....}

Let's just go with the most recent. Just because it's handy. This was in response to one of y'all mythologists who tried to sell "every Klan member was a Democrat" --- as if every person has a political party at all :rofl:

Here's your history. With details.

The Klan was founded on Christmas 1865 by Capt. John Lester, Capt. John B. Kennedy, James Crowe, Frank McCord, Richard Reed and Calvin Jones, in Jones' father's law office at 205 West Madison Street in Pulaski Tennessee. All of the six were twentysomething ex-Confederate soldiers and zero of them had any known political affiliations -- not that there was any voting going on in 1865 Tennessee anyway.

Moreover their stated purpose was a frivolous address of boredom (hence all the whimsical K-alliterations of Klan, kleagle, klavern, etc) and had nothing to do with elements that took it over from the six founders, elements made up of the "night riders" that had been already going on since the eighteenth century, before the United States existed as a country.

That Klan lasted less than a decade and would have been relegated to the historical scrapheap with literally dozens of similar vigilante groups that sprang up in the same era including Caucasian Club(s) (Louisiana 1869), Heroes of America (South Carolina), Knights of the Black Cross (Mississippi), Knights of the Rising Sun (Texas 1868), Knights of the White Camellia (Louisiana 1867-69), Knights of the White Carnation (Alabama), Native Sons of the South (Mississippi), Order of Pale Faces (Tennessee 1869 or 1867, Society of the White Rose (Mississippi) and the White League (Louisiana 1874) --- which was the organization commemorated in the "Liberty Place" monument that was recently removed by the City of New Orleans...

---------- if not for William J. "Colonel Joe" Simmons, who took a gaggle of guys who had lynched a Jew up Stone Mountain on Thanksgiving Day 1915 in a rented bus where they burned a cross and rekindled the ("Knights of the") Ku Klux Klan, which upon hiring a PR team became by far the largest and most pervasive iteration of the Klan.

Simmons was an ex-Methodist minister, salesman, huckster, drunk (ironic since his Klan was staunchly pro-Prohibition) and inveterate club-joiner who was looking to (and did) make money from membership fees. He too had no political affiliation.

Easy enough to demonstrate who the Klan was not. So who actually were they?

"Lifting the Klan mask [19th Century version] revealed a chaotic multitude of antiblack vigilante groups, disgruntled poor white farmers, wartime guerrilla bands, displaced Democratic politicians, illegal whiskey distillers, coercive moral reformers, bored young men, sadists, rapists, white workmen fearful of black competition, employers trying to enforce labor discipline, common thieves, neighbors with decades-old grudges, and even a few freedmen and white Republicans who allied with Democratic whites or had criminal agendas of their own." --- Elaine Frantz Parsons, Ku Klux: "The Birth of the Klan During Reconstruction" (UNC Press) p. 816

As far as "every Klan member was a Democrat", already an absurd statement on its face as it ass-umes everybody in existence is even registered with a political party, I give you:

Owen Brewster -- Maine Governor, Congresscritter and Joe McCarthy apologist. Klan and Republican.
Rice Means -- Senator, Colorado. Klan, Republican.
George Baker -- Mayor Portland Oregon. Klan, Republican.
4/5 of the City Council of Anaheim (1924) --- Klan, Republican
Clarence Morley -- Governor, Colorado. Klan, Republican
Ed Jackson -- Governor, Indiana. Klan, Republican.

Speaking of Ed Jackson and Indiana -- which accomplished the dubious feat of having the largest concentration of its population in the KKK:



Oh and also Charles Bowles, who won the 1930 mayoral election in Detroit, as a write-in. Agan, Klan, no party at all.

In Maine, Klan Republicans were opposed by anti-Klan Republicans, Maine being as overwhelmingly Republican as the "solid South" was Democrat. And in the South, Klan Democrats were opposed by anti-Klan Democrats.

The Klan supported, or opposed, Republicans, or Democrats, depending on what served its interest in that time and place. That is, when it dabbled in politics at all and wasn't going after drinkers, labor unions, blacks, Jews, Catholics, adulterers and in at least one case whipping a (white) woman for "not going to church".

You go right ahead and try to prove ANY of that erroneous. I've given you details. Go fetch.

So much for mythology. You don't sell bullshit on my watch.

Oh yeah I've got plenty more. :Boom2:

Oh man look out you found a governor, a mayor and a city council! Holy shit!

Let's look at the civil rights act of 1957. You know the nation's laws not some city.

The senate vote.
Dem yea- 29
Rep yea- 43
Dem nay- 18
Rep nay- 0

You're free to post whatever stupid shit you have in your files. I'm bringing some fucking upper cut all over this convo.


Abandoning ship cap'm?

Don't blame ya. You can't win this. Cannot be done, QED.

Yeah that list was copied over from the kkklown who tried to float the "all Klan are Democrats" turd (in spite of this inconvenient guy, who I didn't even bring up ---- kind of the elephant in the room)....

Screen-Shot-2015-12-29-at-12.27.57-AM.png

But hey, I can flesh out any part you want. 'Cause I dig history.

Do you have a video of Al Gores dad filibustering the equal rights act? If not I think your kinda being stupid bringing up people who weren't allowed to vote for the law.

The vote was the actual vote. The party was listed. How do you spin that?

One last thing.

How do explain Robert Byrd's funeral? The one where Clinton said he was just trying to get voted in and therefore his racism and klan membership was ok. And the first black president of the US actually flew down there and did his democrat thing praising the KKK member. That's the democrat party in a nutshell isn't it? You've got racism down to the point not even a black president is allowed to skip on giving a speech for a known KKK member. The KKK is that important.
 
The KKK has never had a political party, kkklown. I've mopped the floor with every clueless wag who has tried to float this turd and I'll mop you up too.
I don't know who the hell you think you mopped the floor with but if you seriously think you did it claiming the democrats aren't the party of slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow, segregation and inner city slums you're an idiot.

{goes to bat rack, selects lumber....}

Let's just go with the most recent. Just because it's handy. This was in response to one of y'all mythologists who tried to sell "every Klan member was a Democrat" --- as if every person has a political party at all :rofl:

Here's your history. With details.

The Klan was founded on Christmas 1865 by Capt. John Lester, Capt. John B. Kennedy, James Crowe, Frank McCord, Richard Reed and Calvin Jones, in Jones' father's law office at 205 West Madison Street in Pulaski Tennessee. All of the six were twentysomething ex-Confederate soldiers and zero of them had any known political affiliations -- not that there was any voting going on in 1865 Tennessee anyway.

Moreover their stated purpose was a frivolous address of boredom (hence all the whimsical K-alliterations of Klan, kleagle, klavern, etc) and had nothing to do with elements that took it over from the six founders, elements made up of the "night riders" that had been already going on since the eighteenth century, before the United States existed as a country.

That Klan lasted less than a decade and would have been relegated to the historical scrapheap with literally dozens of similar vigilante groups that sprang up in the same era including Caucasian Club(s) (Louisiana 1869), Heroes of America (South Carolina), Knights of the Black Cross (Mississippi), Knights of the Rising Sun (Texas 1868), Knights of the White Camellia (Louisiana 1867-69), Knights of the White Carnation (Alabama), Native Sons of the South (Mississippi), Order of Pale Faces (Tennessee 1869 or 1867, Society of the White Rose (Mississippi) and the White League (Louisiana 1874) --- which was the organization commemorated in the "Liberty Place" monument that was recently removed by the City of New Orleans...

---------- if not for William J. "Colonel Joe" Simmons, who took a gaggle of guys who had lynched a Jew up Stone Mountain on Thanksgiving Day 1915 in a rented bus where they burned a cross and rekindled the ("Knights of the") Ku Klux Klan, which upon hiring a PR team became by far the largest and most pervasive iteration of the Klan.

Simmons was an ex-Methodist minister, salesman, huckster, drunk (ironic since his Klan was staunchly pro-Prohibition) and inveterate club-joiner who was looking to (and did) make money from membership fees. He too had no political affiliation.

Easy enough to demonstrate who the Klan was not. So who actually were they?

"Lifting the Klan mask [19th Century version] revealed a chaotic multitude of antiblack vigilante groups, disgruntled poor white farmers, wartime guerrilla bands, displaced Democratic politicians, illegal whiskey distillers, coercive moral reformers, bored young men, sadists, rapists, white workmen fearful of black competition, employers trying to enforce labor discipline, common thieves, neighbors with decades-old grudges, and even a few freedmen and white Republicans who allied with Democratic whites or had criminal agendas of their own." --- Elaine Frantz Parsons, Ku Klux: "The Birth of the Klan During Reconstruction" (UNC Press) p. 816

As far as "every Klan member was a Democrat", already an absurd statement on its face as it ass-umes everybody in existence is even registered with a political party, I give you:

Owen Brewster -- Maine Governor, Congresscritter and Joe McCarthy apologist. Klan and Republican.
Rice Means -- Senator, Colorado. Klan, Republican.
George Baker -- Mayor Portland Oregon. Klan, Republican.
4/5 of the City Council of Anaheim (1924) --- Klan, Republican
Clarence Morley -- Governor, Colorado. Klan, Republican
Ed Jackson -- Governor, Indiana. Klan, Republican.

Speaking of Ed Jackson and Indiana -- which accomplished the dubious feat of having the largest concentration of its population in the KKK:



Oh and also Charles Bowles, who won the 1930 mayoral election in Detroit, as a write-in. Agan, Klan, no party at all.

In Maine, Klan Republicans were opposed by anti-Klan Republicans, Maine being as overwhelmingly Republican as the "solid South" was Democrat. And in the South, Klan Democrats were opposed by anti-Klan Democrats.

The Klan supported, or opposed, Republicans, or Democrats, depending on what served its interest in that time and place. That is, when it dabbled in politics at all and wasn't going after drinkers, labor unions, blacks, Jews, Catholics, adulterers and in at least one case whipping a (white) woman for "not going to church".

You go right ahead and try to prove ANY of that erroneous. I've given you details. Go fetch.

So much for mythology. You don't sell bullshit on my watch.

Oh yeah I've got plenty more. :Boom2:

Oh man look out you found a governor, a mayor and a city council! Holy shit!

Let's look at the civil rights act of 1957. You know the nation's laws not some city.

The senate vote.
Dem yea- 29
Rep yea- 43
Dem nay- 18
Rep nay- 0

You're free to post whatever stupid shit you have in your files. I'm bringing some fucking upper cut all over this convo.


Abandoning ship cap'm?

Don't blame ya. You can't win this. Cannot be done, QED.

Yeah that list was copied over from the kkklown who tried to float the "all Klan are Democrats" turd (in spite of this inconvenient guy, who I didn't even bring up ---- kind of the elephant in the room)....

Screen-Shot-2015-12-29-at-12.27.57-AM.png

But hey, I can flesh out any part you want. 'Cause I dig history.

Do you have a video of Al Gores dad filibustering the equal rights act? If not I think your kinda being stupid bringing up people who weren't allowed to vote for the law.

The vote was the actual vote. The party was listed. How do you spin that?

One last thing.

How do explain Robert Byrd's funeral? The one where Clinton said he was just trying to get voted in and therefore his racism and klan membership was ok. And the first black president of the US actually flew down there and did his democrat thing praising the KKK member. That's the democrat party in a nutshell isn't it? You've got racism down to the point not even a black president is allowed to skip on giving a speech for a known KKK member. The KKK is that important.


I didn't see the Byrd funeral, but I do know he quit the Klan before ever running for office, and before Hillary was even born. You do know what "Photoshop" is, right?

Other than that, there's no evidence Gore was in the Klan nor would it mean anything beyond a Composition Fallacy if he had been. And ditto for Byrd --- we're talking about what was behind the Klan's origins and operations --- not running down a membership list.

That about it then? Or you wanna come back with another topic shift?
 
The Democrat Party is the party of the KKK, and Hollywood/the mainstream media is its Joseph Goebbels.

The KKK has never had a political party, kkklown. I've mopped the floor with every clueless wag who has tried to float this turd and I'll mop you up too.
I don't know who the hell you think you mopped the floor with but if you seriously think you did it claiming the democrats aren't the party of slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow, segregation and inner city slums you're an idiot.

{goes to bat rack, selects lumber....}

Let's just go with the most recent. Just because it's handy. This was in response to one of y'all mythologists who tried to sell "every Klan member was a Democrat" --- as if every person has a political party at all :rofl:

Here's your history. With details.

The Klan was founded on Christmas 1865 by Capt. John Lester, Capt. John B. Kennedy, James Crowe, Frank McCord, Richard Reed and Calvin Jones, in Jones' father's law office at 205 West Madison Street in Pulaski Tennessee. All of the six were twentysomething ex-Confederate soldiers and zero of them had any known political affiliations -- not that there was any voting going on in 1865 Tennessee anyway.

Moreover their stated purpose was a frivolous address of boredom (hence all the whimsical K-alliterations of Klan, kleagle, klavern, etc) and had nothing to do with elements that took it over from the six founders, elements made up of the "night riders" that had been already going on since the eighteenth century, before the United States existed as a country.

That Klan lasted less than a decade and would have been relegated to the historical scrapheap with literally dozens of similar vigilante groups that sprang up in the same era including Caucasian Club(s) (Louisiana 1869), Heroes of America (South Carolina), Knights of the Black Cross (Mississippi), Knights of the Rising Sun (Texas 1868), Knights of the White Camellia (Louisiana 1867-69), Knights of the White Carnation (Alabama), Native Sons of the South (Mississippi), Order of Pale Faces (Tennessee 1869 or 1867, Society of the White Rose (Mississippi) and the White League (Louisiana 1874) --- which was the organization commemorated in the "Liberty Place" monument that was recently removed by the City of New Orleans...

---------- if not for William J. "Colonel Joe" Simmons, who took a gaggle of guys who had lynched a Jew up Stone Mountain on Thanksgiving Day 1915 in a rented bus where they burned a cross and rekindled the ("Knights of the") Ku Klux Klan, which upon hiring a PR team became by far the largest and most pervasive iteration of the Klan.

Simmons was an ex-Methodist minister, salesman, huckster, drunk (ironic since his Klan was staunchly pro-Prohibition) and inveterate club-joiner who was looking to (and did) make money from membership fees. He too had no political affiliation.

Easy enough to demonstrate who the Klan was not. So who actually were they?

"Lifting the Klan mask [19th Century version] revealed a chaotic multitude of antiblack vigilante groups, disgruntled poor white farmers, wartime guerrilla bands, displaced Democratic politicians, illegal whiskey distillers, coercive moral reformers, bored young men, sadists, rapists, white workmen fearful of black competition, employers trying to enforce labor discipline, common thieves, neighbors with decades-old grudges, and even a few freedmen and white Republicans who allied with Democratic whites or had criminal agendas of their own." --- Elaine Frantz Parsons, Ku Klux: "The Birth of the Klan During Reconstruction" (UNC Press) p. 816

As far as "every Klan member was a Democrat", already an absurd statement on its face as it ass-umes everybody in existence is even registered with a political party, I give you:

Owen Brewster -- Maine Governor, Congresscritter and Joe McCarthy apologist. Klan and Republican.
Rice Means -- Senator, Colorado. Klan, Republican.
George Baker -- Mayor Portland Oregon. Klan, Republican.
4/5 of the City Council of Anaheim (1924) --- Klan, Republican
Clarence Morley -- Governor, Colorado. Klan, Republican
Ed Jackson -- Governor, Indiana. Klan, Republican.

Speaking of Ed Jackson and Indiana -- which accomplished the dubious feat of having the largest concentration of its population in the KKK:



Oh and also Charles Bowles, who won the 1930 mayoral election in Detroit, as a write-in. Agan, Klan, no party at all.

In Maine, Klan Republicans were opposed by anti-Klan Republicans, Maine being as overwhelmingly Republican as the "solid South" was Democrat. And in the South, Klan Democrats were opposed by anti-Klan Democrats.

The Klan supported, or opposed, Republicans, or Democrats, depending on what served its interest in that time and place. That is, when it dabbled in politics at all and wasn't going after drinkers, labor unions, blacks, Jews, Catholics, adulterers and in at least one case whipping a (white) woman for "not going to church".

You go right ahead and try to prove ANY of that erroneous. I've given you details. Go fetch.

So much for mythology. You don't sell bullshit on my watch.

Oh yeah I've got plenty more. :Boom2:



04f38ef126ee1c5f178037eede68bd1c.jpg


Thanks Henri, but I don't need 'em. I can clean up this myth with historical facts. I've done it so many times I don't even need to look up details any more.
 
The Democrat Party is the party of the KKK, and Hollywood/the mainstream media is its Joseph Goebbels.

The KKK has never had a political party, kkklown. I've mopped the floor with every clueless wag who has tried to float this turd and I'll mop you up too.
I don't know who the hell you think you mopped the floor with but if you seriously think you did it claiming the democrats aren't the party of slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow, segregation and inner city slums you're an idiot.

Giving prisoners work to do is now slavery?

lol, that is goddam funny.
 
The Democrat Party is the party of the KKK, and Hollywood/the mainstream media is its Joseph Goebbels.

The KKK has never had a political party, kkklown. I've mopped the floor with every clueless wag who has tried to float this turd and I'll mop you up too.
I don't know who the hell you think you mopped the floor with but if you seriously think you did it claiming the democrats aren't the party of slavery, the KKK, Jim Crow, segregation and inner city slums you're an idiot.

Giving prisoners work to do is now slavery?

lol, that is goddam funny.
Your lack of reading comprehension is what's funny.
 
We have work crews from the local prison that do work for the local towns. It is entirely voluntary--no inmate is pressured into it. They fight for the chance, actually. In the town in which the prison is located, they do it for free as "community service." The guys appreciate the work, the opportunity to do something besides sit and watch tv all day. Apparently, there is a similar arrangement (or was) with the Governor's Mansion in Arkansas. It's not slave labor and there's nothing wrong with it. A crew painted our church for free except for the wonderful homecooked hot lunches they got every day. They were so sorry when they were done. A lot of local businesses hire guys from the prison, too, on work release. It's not a bad thing.
 

Forum List

Back
Top