Hillary polling: 1st week after her announcement

...and if there was even the slightest chance that Hillary was going to be the nominee I might give enough of a fuck to read the op
 
Mertex said:
It's no wonder all the gut-wrenching the GOP is going through....they knew it was coming and they didn't prepare.....:badgrin:

Be Afraid, GOP: Hillary Clinton Is Back and She Will Beat You in 2016
And her return should strike fear in the hearts of Republicans everywhere. Robert Shrum on why Hillary will prevail in 2016.

She's back. And it seems like she never left at all.

Be Afraid GOP Hillary Clinton Is Back and She Will Beat You in 2016 - The Daily Beast
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If this is the best Republicans have to beat Hillary it is going to be a LONG 2016
 
What will continue to be the case is that a candidate perceived to be farther to the right, the greater HRC's lead than against those GOP candidates perceived to be more moderate.
 
CrusaderFrank said:
...and if there was even the slightest chance that Hillary was going to be the nominee I might give enough of a fuck to read the op
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Well, tell you what, l'il slugger: you take a nice, cozy nap for say, the next 18 months, and when you wake up, all rested and feeling fit as a big old bedbug, I will introduce you to President-elect Hillary Clinton.


:D
 
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JakeStarkey said:
What will continue to be the case is that a candidate perceived to be farther to the right, the greater HRC's lead than against those GOP candidates perceived to be more moderate.
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Yes. I agree.

Right now, Marco Rubio is perceived as being not so far to the Right. He is doing better.

Rand Paul's numbers against Clinton have worsened since he announced.

And Ted Cruz is regularly at the very bottom of the pile.

GOP, wanna put Oklahoma into play? Then nominate Ted Cruz, because a +24 margin nationally has meant very close to a 50 state sweep (or a 46 state sweep, depending on the decade). See: 1936, 1972, 1984*.

*Well, actually, Reagan only needed +18.22 to get there...
 
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mudwhistle said:
Statistikhengst said:
It has now been 9 days since Hillary Clinton declared her candidacy and some polling results have come in. Not all of them were actually taken in the time-frame after her candidacy was declared, but as of this week, that will definitely be the case.


National:​

Rasmussen Polling, released 14.04.2015
1000 LV, MoE = +/-3.0, polled on 09.04 and 12.04.2015
So, the second day of this poll was on the day that Hillary announced, but not after.



Clinton 47 / Paul 37, margin = Clinton +10
Clinton 47 / Cruz 37, margin = Clinton +10


So, based on data from before Clinton's announcement, she leads both declared Republicans by +10. One notes that Rasmussen ALWAYS finds a way to keep a Democrat under 50% as long as possible. Considering that Rasmussen has a proven mathematical bias of +4 to the Right, both of these margins could easily be more like +14, more in line with most all other national polling.


CNN/ORC, released 20.04.2015
1,018 A, MoE = +/-3.0, polled from 16.04 to 19.04, all after Hillary and Rubio's announcements.
The values in (parentheses) are from the previous CNN/ORC poll for that particular matchup.

Clinton 55 (55) / Rubio 41 (42), margin = Clinton +14 (+13)
Clinton 56 (55) / Bush, J 39 (40), margin = Clinton +17 (+15)
Clinton 58 (54) / Paul 39 (43), margin = Clinton +19 (+11)
Clinton 58 (55) / Christie 39 (40), margin = Clinton +19 (+15)
Clinton 58 (55) / Huckabee 37 (41), margin = Clinton +21 (+14)
Clinton 59 (55) / Walker 37 (40), margin = Clinton +22 (+15)
Clinton 60 (60) / Cruz 36 (35), margin = Clinton +24 (+25)
Clinton 60 (56) / Carson 36 (40), margin = Clinton +24 (+16)

In the CNN/ORC poll, Hillary Clinton is well above the 50 mark in all 8 matchups and beats her prospective Republican opponents by between a landslide +14 and a blowout +24. There have now been 67 national polls, Hillary vs. specific GOP challengers, making for 241 matchups to-date, of which Hillary has decisively won 234 (97.10%). This poll, with the matchups against Cruz and Carson, make for the third time that Hillary has hit the 60% mark in a national poll. I can guarantee you that since 1984, no candidate has hit the 60 mark in any national polling. If you go to the CNN link, you will see how well Hillary is doing in the female vote: +27 over Rubio / +32 over Bush, J and Carson / +34 over Christie / +35 over Walker and Cruz / +36 over Paul / +39 over Huckabee. Just to remind: Obama won the female vote in 2012 by +11. Hillary is at double to triple that margin.

Also in the CNN/ORC poll:

Democratic nomination:

Hillary 69 / Biden 11 / Sanders 5 / Someone else 5 / Webb 3 / Chafee 1 / O'Malley 1, margin = Hillary +58


Republican nomination:

Bush, J 17 / Walker 12 / Paul 11 / Rubio 11 / Huckabee 9 / Cruz 7 / Someone else 5 / Carson 4 / Christie 3 / Santorum 3 / Fiorina 2 / Graham 2 / Jindal 2 / Kasich 2, margin = Bush, J +5


So, one week after the Clinton rollout, apparently, her method helped her among Democrats: she has gone from 62% to 69% and is absolutely the prohibitive front-runner for the DEM nomination.

The GOP field looks just as muddy as it has looked the entire time, which is not unusual for the opposition party going into an open cycle. However, none of these candidates are doing as well as Mitt Romney was doing at this point of time in 2011: he was hanging at right around 23% in most polling.



Wisconsin:​


Marquette University Poll, released 16.04.2015
803 RV, MoE = +/-3.5, the interviews were conducted from 07.04 to 10.04, BEFORE Hillary's announcement. The values in (parentheses) are from the previous Marquette poll for that particular matchup.



Clinton 49 / Paul 41, margin = Clinton +8
Clinton 49 (50) / Bush, J 38 (39), margin = Clinton +11 (+10)
Clinton 50 / Rubio 38, margin = Clinton +12
Clinton 52 (53.3) / Walker 40 (40.6), margin = Clinton +12 (+12.7)
Clinton 52 (55.3) / Cruz 36 (33.4), margin = Clinton +16 (+21.9)

The Marquette University poll shows Clinton leading five prospective GOP opponents by between +8 and +16. Obama won Wisconsin in 2008 by +14 and in 2012 by +7, so even Hillary's leanest value is larger than Obama's actual win from 2012. That being said, the margin against Cruz has shrunken some. With values like that, if they hold, then Wisconsin is nowhere near being a battleground state in 2016.

A PPP (D) poll from Wisconsin in March showed leaner margins than this, so it will be interesting to see what both their next poll and Marquette's next poll says.

Marquette was one of the three best pollsters in the final polling of Wisconsin in 2012. It predicted Obama +8, he won by +7, so Marquette was off to the Left by 1 point. Rasmussen, on the other hand, completely missed the call, called a tie, and was therefore off by 7 points to the Right.

To-date, there have now been 9 polls of the Badger state, with 40 individual matchups, of which Hillary has won 37, the GOP has won 2 and there has been 1 mathematical tie.



Florida:​

Mason-Dixon (R) poll, released 20.04.2015
625 RV, MoE = +/-4.5, the interviews were held from 14.04 to 18.04.2015

Rubio 49 / Clinton 43, margin = Rubio +6
Bush, J 47 / Clinton 43, margin = Bush, J +4


This is the first Mason-Dixon of this cycle for Florida, so there is no older data with which to compare.

In 2012, the final Mason-Dixon poll of Florida, released 02.11.2012, predicted Romney +6 (Romney 51 / Obama 45). In reality, Obama won by 1, so Mason-Dixon was off by 7 full points to the Right in the Orange-Juice state and had the highest mathematical bias of any of the end pollster for that state in that year. So, Mason-Dixon's reputation is already severely damaged. However, in a breach with their tradition, M/D did release some internals with this poll. And in doing so, M-D shows Hillary just barely winning the female vote in Florida, by +4 over Bush and by +8 over Rubio, well under the national margins in the female vote. I consider this to be highly, highly unlikely, especially considering that Florida is a microcosm for the nation in many ways.

In a national atmosphere where Hillary is leading ALL GOP comers by landslide margins, it is unlikely that she is losing in Florida. There have now been 23 polls of Florida and 89 specific-name-to-name matchups, of which Hillary has won 83.

Either way, it will be interesting to see what the NEXT Mason-Dixon poll says.

So, those were the numbers for the first week, post-Hillary announcement.
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Cool......Hillary for some reason is the only announced Democrat candidate......so essentially she's running against a split vote between 4 Republicans.
What an accomplishment.

I think it's unseemly that the only Democrat being allowed to run is a highly flawed candidate with no real accomplishments, who never earned a cent that she made in her life, plenty of disastrous decisions because she was taking bribes from foreign interests while in office, and currently under indictment for racketeering. The only candidate the Dems can offer is an ugly, fat, closeted Lesbian, who needs two phones in order to have two email addresses, who is guilty of almost as many felonies as Obama.

You guys must be so proud. Obviously winning is more important to you than getting the right person for the job....preventing it from becoming disastrous like the Obama Administration. And what's worse....you must feel that Americans are this damn stupid. Judging from the lack of excitement from actual voters at all of her staged events shows she's not as popular as you claim.
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This is really, really pathetic. She comes from a working class background; she was an attorney for years. You think she didn't have a salary? She is no more flawed than any other politician and has not made any disastrous decision or taken any bribes: that's all manufactured scandals made by the RW. The fact she is not a barbie doll beauty has absolutely nothing to do with her ability to be President. As well, she is better looking and in better shape than at least half of the American women her age. And why anyone thinks she is a lesbian is beyond understanding. However, if she were, that also has no impact on her ability to be President.

You are so pathetic. Every line of your post illustrates how vapid and pathetic you are.
 
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And PPP (D) just put out it's poll of New Hampshire:

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_NH_42115.pdf

PPP's new New Hampshire poll finds Hillary Clinton with commanding leads over the entire Republican field in the state- she is up by anywhere from 9 to 15 points against the nine GOP contenders we tested her against.

The hopefuls who come closest to Clinton are Rand Paul and Scott Walker, each of whom trail by 9 at 49/40. The ones who do the worst are Chris Christie (51/36) and Ted Cruz (52/37) who each have 15 point deficits. In between are Marco Rubio who trails by 12 at 50/38, and Jeb Bush (49/36), Ben Carson (51/38), Mike Huckabee (51/38), and Rick Perry (also 51/38) who all trail by 13 points.
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More of an analysis and comparative data later, both on this and another thread where I promised to put out the NH numbers when they come in.

Interesting that Chris Christie is now doing as badly as Ted Cruz in New Hampshire....
 
JakeStarkey said:
The GOP is going to need to reach hard to women and minorities if it wants to bring in VA and FL much less NC.
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Yeah,

Maybe not be against birth control and be for at least the first couple of months of (early term) abortion might be a good idea. They can't afford to come out for the goddamn rich against the poor.


Also, I only stated that the poll above shows the republicans winning Florida. Jeb and Rubio...I support Infrastructure, science and r&d very strongly.
 
Statistikhengst said:
It has now been 9 days since Hillary Clinton declared her candidacy and some polling results have come in. Not all of them were actually taken in the time-frame after her candidacy was declared, but as of this week, that will definitely be the case.


National:​

Rasmussen Polling, released 14.04.2015
1000 LV, MoE = +/-3.0, polled on 09.04 and 12.04.2015
So, the second day of this poll was on the day that Hillary announced, but not after.



Clinton 47 / Paul 37, margin = Clinton +10
Clinton 47 / Cruz 37, margin = Clinton +10


So, based on data from before Clinton's announcement, she leads both declared Republicans by +10. One notes that Rasmussen ALWAYS finds a way to keep a Democrat under 50% as long as possible. Considering that Rasmussen has a proven mathematical bias of +4 to the Right, both of these margins could easily be more like +14, more in line with most all other national polling.


CNN/ORC, released 20.04.2015
1,018 A, MoE = +/-3.0, polled from 16.04 to 19.04, all after Hillary and Rubio's announcements.
The values in (parentheses) are from the previous CNN/ORC poll for that particular matchup.

Clinton 55 (55) / Rubio 41 (42), margin = Clinton +14 (+13)
Clinton 56 (55) / Bush, J 39 (40), margin = Clinton +17 (+15)
Clinton 58 (54) / Paul 39 (43), margin = Clinton +19 (+11)
Clinton 58 (55) / Christie 39 (40), margin = Clinton +19 (+15)
Clinton 58 (55) / Huckabee 37 (41), margin = Clinton +21 (+14)
Clinton 59 (55) / Walker 37 (40), margin = Clinton +22 (+15)
Clinton 60 (60) / Cruz 36 (35), margin = Clinton +24 (+25)
Clinton 60 (56) / Carson 36 (40), margin = Clinton +24 (+16)

In the CNN/ORC poll, Hillary Clinton is well above the 50 mark in all 8 matchups and beats her prospective Republican opponents by between a landslide +14 and a blowout +24. There have now been 67 national polls, Hillary vs. specific GOP challengers, making for 241 matchups to-date, of which Hillary has decisively won 234 (97.10%). This poll, with the matchups against Cruz and Carson, make for the third time that Hillary has hit the 60% mark in a national poll. I can guarantee you that since 1984, no candidate has hit the 60 mark in any national polling. If you go to the CNN link, you will see how well Hillary is doing in the female vote: +27 over Rubio / +32 over Bush, J and Carson / +34 over Christie / +35 over Walker and Cruz / +36 over Paul / +39 over Huckabee. Just to remind: Obama won the female vote in 2012 by +11. Hillary is at double to triple that margin.

Also in the CNN/ORC poll:

Democratic nomination:

Hillary 69 / Biden 11 / Sanders 5 / Someone else 5 / Webb 3 / Chafee 1 / O'Malley 1, margin = Hillary +58


Republican nomination:

Bush, J 17 / Walker 12 / Paul 11 / Rubio 11 / Huckabee 9 / Cruz 7 / Someone else 5 / Carson 4 / Christie 3 / Santorum 3 / Fiorina 2 / Graham 2 / Jindal 2 / Kasich 2, margin = Bush, J +5


So, one week after the Clinton rollout, apparently, her method helped her among Democrats: she has gone from 62% to 69% and is absolutely the prohibitive front-runner for the DEM nomination.

The GOP field looks just as muddy as it has looked the entire time, which is not unusual for the opposition party going into an open cycle. However, none of these candidates are doing as well as Mitt Romney was doing at this point of time in 2011: he was hanging at right around 23% in most polling.



Wisconsin:​


Marquette University Poll, released 16.04.2015
803 RV, MoE = +/-3.5, the interviews were conducted from 07.04 to 10.04, BEFORE Hillary's announcement. The values in (parentheses) are from the previous Marquette poll for that particular matchup.



Clinton 49 / Paul 41, margin = Clinton +8
Clinton 49 (50) / Bush, J 38 (39), margin = Clinton +11 (+10)
Clinton 50 / Rubio 38, margin = Clinton +12
Clinton 52 (53.3) / Walker 40 (40.6), margin = Clinton +12 (+12.7)
Clinton 52 (55.3) / Cruz 36 (33.4), margin = Clinton +16 (+21.9)

The Marquette University poll shows Clinton leading five prospective GOP opponents by between +8 and +16. Obama won Wisconsin in 2008 by +14 and in 2012 by +7, so even Hillary's leanest value is larger than Obama's actual win from 2012. That being said, the margin against Cruz has shrunken some. With values like that, if they hold, then Wisconsin is nowhere near being a battleground state in 2016.

A PPP (D) poll from Wisconsin in March showed leaner margins than this, so it will be interesting to see what both their next poll and Marquette's next poll says.

Marquette was one of the three best pollsters in the final polling of Wisconsin in 2012. It predicted Obama +8, he won by +7, so Marquette was off to the Left by 1 point. Rasmussen, on the other hand, completely missed the call, called a tie, and was therefore off by 7 points to the Right.

To-date, there have now been 9 polls of the Badger state, with 40 individual matchups, of which Hillary has won 37, the GOP has won 2 and there has been 1 mathematical tie.



Florida:​

Mason-Dixon (R) poll, released 20.04.2015
625 RV, MoE = +/-4.5, the interviews were held from 14.04 to 18.04.2015

Rubio 49 / Clinton 43, margin = Rubio +6
Bush, J 47 / Clinton 43, margin = Bush, J +4


This is the first Mason-Dixon of this cycle for Florida, so there is no older data with which to compare.

In 2012, the final Mason-Dixon poll of Florida, released 02.11.2012, predicted Romney +6 (Romney 51 / Obama 45). In reality, Obama won by 1, so Mason-Dixon was off by 7 full points to the Right in the Orange-Juice state and had the highest mathematical bias of any of the end pollster for that state in that year. So, Mason-Dixon's reputation is already severely damaged. However, in a breach with their tradition, M/D did release some internals with this poll. And in doing so, M-D shows Hillary just barely winning the female vote in Florida, by +4 over Bush and by +8 over Rubio, well under the national margins in the female vote. I consider this to be highly, highly unlikely, especially considering that Florida is a microcosm for the nation in many ways.

In a national atmosphere where Hillary is leading ALL GOP comers by landslide margins, it is unlikely that she is losing in Florida. There have now been 23 polls of Florida and 89 specific-name-to-name matchups, of which Hillary has won 83.

Either way, it will be interesting to see what the NEXT Mason-Dixon poll says.


New Jersey:​

Quinnipiac Poll, released 21.04.2015
1,428 RV, MoE = +/-2.6, survey taken from 09.04 to 14.04.2015, so part of the survey is after Hillary and Rubio's announcements. The values in (parentheses) are from the previous Quinnipiac poll for that particular matchup.



Clinton 51 (52) / Christie 36 (39), margin = Clinton +15 (+13)
Clinton 54 (54) / Paul 34 (35), margin = Clinton +20 (+19)
Clinton 53 (53) / Bush, J 33 (37), margin = Clinton +20 (+16)
Clinton 54 / Rubio 34 , margin = Clinton +20
Clinton 54 / Walker 32, margin =Clinton +22
Clinton 56 (56) / Huckabee 30 (33), margin = Clinton +26 (+23)
Clinton 58 / Cruz 30 , margin = Clinton +28


Clinton is dominating in New Jersey, with margins between +15 over Christie to +28 over Cruz. Six of those seven margins are +20 and above. Yes, New Jersey is part of the BLUE WALL and has gone reliably for the Democratic Party now for 6 cycles in a row, but usually with margins around +15, not +28. If the closest that Chris Christie can get to Hillary in his home state is 15 points behind, how can he compete nationally. George W. Bush (43) made a real play for this state in 2007 and lost it by 7 points.

To-date, there have been 15 polls of New Jersey, with 40 matchups. Hillary has decisively won 39 of them.


So, those were the numbers for the first week, post-Hillary announcement.
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But what does Rush Limbaugh have to say about this?

:rofl:
 
Hillary Clinton...the next president??? AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...only in your dreams suckers!!!!!!!
 
mudwhistle said:
Mertex said:
mudwhistle said:
Statistikhengst said:
It has now been 9 days since Hillary Clinton declared her candidacy and some polling results have come in. Not all of them were actually taken in the time-frame after her candidacy was declared, but as of this week, that will definitely be the case.


National:​

Rasmussen Polling, released 14.04.2015
1000 LV, MoE = +/-3.0, polled on 09.04 and 12.04.2015
So, the second day of this poll was on the day that Hillary announced, but not after.



Clinton 47 / Paul 37, margin = Clinton +10
Clinton 47 / Cruz 37, margin = Clinton +10


So, based on data from before Clinton's announcement, she leads both declared Republicans by +10. One notes that Rasmussen ALWAYS finds a way to keep a Democrat under 50% as long as possible. Considering that Rasmussen has a proven mathematical bias of +4 to the Right, both of these margins could easily be more like +14, more in line with most all other national polling.


CNN/ORC, released 20.04.2015
1,018 A, MoE = +/-3.0, polled from 16.04 to 19.04, all after Hillary and Rubio's announcements.
The values in (parentheses) are from the previous CNN/ORC poll for that particular matchup.

Clinton 55 (55) / Rubio 41 (42), margin = Clinton +14 (+13)
Clinton 56 (55) / Bush, J 39 (40), margin = Clinton +17 (+15)
Clinton 58 (54) / Paul 39 (43), margin = Clinton +19 (+11)
Clinton 58 (55) / Christie 39 (40), margin = Clinton +19 (+15)
Clinton 58 (55) / Huckabee 37 (41), margin = Clinton +21 (+14)
Clinton 59 (55) / Walker 37 (40), margin = Clinton +22 (+15)
Clinton 60 (60) / Cruz 36 (35), margin = Clinton +24 (+25)
Clinton 60 (56) / Carson 36 (40), margin = Clinton +24 (+16)

In the CNN/ORC poll, Hillary Clinton is well above the 50 mark in all 8 matchups and beats her prospective Republican opponents by between a landslide +14 and a blowout +24. There have now been 67 national polls, Hillary vs. specific GOP challengers, making for 241 matchups to-date, of which Hillary has decisively won 234 (97.10%). This poll, with the matchups against Cruz and Carson, make for the third time that Hillary has hit the 60% mark in a national poll. I can guarantee you that since 1984, no candidate has hit the 60 mark in any national polling. If you go to the CNN link, you will see how well Hillary is doing in the female vote: +27 over Rubio / +32 over Bush, J and Carson / +34 over Christie / +35 over Walker and Cruz / +36 over Paul / +39 over Huckabee. Just to remind: Obama won the female vote in 2012 by +11. Hillary is at double to triple that margin.

Also in the CNN/ORC poll:

Democratic nomination:

Hillary 69 / Biden 11 / Sanders 5 / Someone else 5 / Webb 3 / Chafee 1 / O'Malley 1, margin = Hillary +58


Republican nomination:

Bush, J 17 / Walker 12 / Paul 11 / Rubio 11 / Huckabee 9 / Cruz 7 / Someone else 5 / Carson 4 / Christie 3 / Santorum 3 / Fiorina 2 / Graham 2 / Jindal 2 / Kasich 2, margin = Bush, J +5


So, one week after the Clinton rollout, apparently, her method helped her among Democrats: she has gone from 62% to 69% and is absolutely the prohibitive front-runner for the DEM nomination.

The GOP field looks just as muddy as it has looked the entire time, which is not unusual for the opposition party going into an open cycle. However, none of these candidates are doing as well as Mitt Romney was doing at this point of time in 2011: he was hanging at right around 23% in most polling.



Wisconsin:​


Marquette University Poll, released 16.04.2015
803 RV, MoE = +/-3.5, the interviews were conducted from 07.04 to 10.04, BEFORE Hillary's announcement. The values in (parentheses) are from the previous Marquette poll for that particular matchup.



Clinton 49 / Paul 41, margin = Clinton +8
Clinton 49 (50) / Bush, J 38 (39), margin = Clinton +11 (+10)
Clinton 50 / Rubio 38, margin = Clinton +12
Clinton 52 (53.3) / Walker 40 (40.6), margin = Clinton +12 (+12.7)
Clinton 52 (55.3) / Cruz 36 (33.4), margin = Clinton +16 (+21.9)

The Marquette University poll shows Clinton leading five prospective GOP opponents by between +8 and +16. Obama won Wisconsin in 2008 by +14 and in 2012 by +7, so even Hillary's leanest value is larger than Obama's actual win from 2012. That being said, the margin against Cruz has shrunken some. With values like that, if they hold, then Wisconsin is nowhere near being a battleground state in 2016.

A PPP (D) poll from Wisconsin in March showed leaner margins than this, so it will be interesting to see what both their next poll and Marquette's next poll says.

Marquette was one of the three best pollsters in the final polling of Wisconsin in 2012. It predicted Obama +8, he won by +7, so Marquette was off to the Left by 1 point. Rasmussen, on the other hand, completely missed the call, called a tie, and was therefore off by 7 points to the Right.

To-date, there have now been 9 polls of the Badger state, with 40 individual matchups, of which Hillary has won 37, the GOP has won 2 and there has been 1 mathematical tie.



Florida:​

Mason-Dixon (R) poll, released 20.04.2015
625 RV, MoE = +/-4.5, the interviews were held from 14.04 to 18.04.2015

Rubio 49 / Clinton 43, margin = Rubio +6
Bush, J 47 / Clinton 43, margin = Bush, J +4


This is the first Mason-Dixon of this cycle for Florida, so there is no older data with which to compare.

In 2012, the final Mason-Dixon poll of Florida, released 02.11.2012, predicted Romney +6 (Romney 51 / Obama 45). In reality, Obama won by 1, so Mason-Dixon was off by 7 full points to the Right in the Orange-Juice state and had the highest mathematical bias of any of the end pollster for that state in that year. So, Mason-Dixon's reputation is already severely damaged. However, in a breach with their tradition, M/D did release some internals with this poll. And in doing so, M-D shows Hillary just barely winning the female vote in Florida, by +4 over Bush and by +8 over Rubio, well under the national margins in the female vote. I consider this to be highly, highly unlikely, especially considering that Florida is a microcosm for the nation in many ways.

In a national atmosphere where Hillary is leading ALL GOP comers by landslide margins, it is unlikely that she is losing in Florida. There have now been 23 polls of Florida and 89 specific-name-to-name matchups, of which Hillary has won 83.

Either way, it will be interesting to see what the NEXT Mason-Dixon poll says.

So, those were the numbers for the first week, post-Hillary announcement.
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Cool......Hillary for some reason is the only announced Democrat candidate......so essentially she's running against a split vote between 4 Republicans.
What an accomplishment.

I think it's unseemly that the only Democrat being allowed to run is a highly flawed candidate with no real accomplishments, who never earned a cent that she made in her life, plenty of disastrous decisions because she was taking bribes from foreign interests while in office, and currently under indictment for racketeering. The only candidate the Dems can offer is an ugly, fat, closeted Lesbian, who needs two phones in order to have two email addresses, who is guilty of almost as many felonies as Obama.

You guys must be so proud. Obviously winning is more important to you than getting the right person for the job....preventing it from becoming disastrous like the Obama Administration. And what's worse....you must feel that Americans are this damn stupid. Judging from the lack of excitement from actual voters at all of her staged events shows she's not as popular as you claim.
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Wahhhhhhh, somebody call a wambulance, Mudwhistle is having a butt hurt. Like any of the conservative clowns are the right person for the job....:biggrin: They all want to put the screws to the middle-class, Mud must be one of the 1%, or he's delusional.
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Shut up bitch.
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Are you arguing with yourself again?
 
CrusaderFrank said:
...and if there was even the slightest chance that Hillary was going to be the nominee I might give enough of a fuck to read the op
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Can you read? You should, then you would have no doubt that Hillary will be the nominee, why would we go with anyone else?
 
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