Hide a former special ops in every school in America?

[OohPooPahDoo]

Hide a former special ops in every school in America?


Or more than one.

No one would know who they were or how many were there, but they'd be there. And they'd be ready to spring into instant action as soon as a shooting started, drastically limiting loss of life. They could be planted in the schools as teachers, janitors, or any ordinary school related job

Only problem is there are prolly a lot more schools than former special ops.

 

[Mr. H.]

It would be easier and cheaper just to train some admins and staff. Most prob own firearms anyway.

 

[bucs90]

How about just expand the local police department by however many schools are in that city, and add 1 cop for every school, completely full time, trained, armed, and familiar with the local community. Have them in uniform, or undercover, whichever one we want.

Afterall, that coward stopped shooting when he heard the cops arrive, just like the Va Tech coward. Why not just have the cops already there, all day every day?

Oh wait.....right wing politicians dont want to fund PD's anymore. Nevermind that idea.

 

[HUGGY]

Hide a former special ops in every school in America?


Or more than one.

No one would know who they were or how many were there, but they'd be there. And they'd be ready to spring into instant action as soon as a shooting started, drastically limiting loss of life. They could be planted in the schools as teachers, janitors, or any ordinary school related job

Only problem is there are prolly a lot more schools than former special ops.

Ya think? Nearly half a million schools.

 

[depotoo]

Why? Imprison our kids? On the odds that something like this could happen? It could just as easily happen in the school yard, at the theater, the mall, a restaurant.

We as parents want to be able to move heaven and earth to keep our kids safe from the evils and tragedies in this world, but they will not go away and in doing so we actually make their lives miserable, having constant reminders that something bad could happen if they dare step outside the walls of safety that we want to build around them. This is not the answer. The odds are actually in our favor they won't happen.

There really are no answers. Tragedies, evils exist and we can do nothing to prevent them from happening. Can we be aware? Yes. Can we absolutely prevent? No. Are the odds actually in our favor? Yes.

We can't quit living or allowing our kids to live because there are some ills within this life on earth.

 

[P@triot]

Hide a former special ops in every school in America?


Or more than one.

No one would know who they were or how many were there, but they'd be there. And they'd be ready to spring into instant action as soon as a shooting started, drastically limiting loss of life. They could be planted in the schools as teachers, janitors, or any ordinary school related job

Only problem is there are prolly a lot more schools than former special ops.

Probably? There are DEFINITELY a lot more schools than former special forces operators. The other issue is that they are very expensive. Their unique skill sets and experience make them six-figure contractors around the world. Not many schools can compete with that.

However, for once you're starting to think rationally. Instead of banning guns (which won't solve anything as murder is banned and that's still happening), we need well trained, well armed security in each and every school. At least two. And while that won't prevent 100% of incidents, it will take a tragedy of 20 and turn it into a tragedy of 1 or maybe a tragedy of just injuries and no loss of life.

 

[P@triot]

Why? Imprison our kids? On the odds that something like this could happen? It could just as easily happen in the school yard, at the theater, the mall, a restaurant.

We as parents want to be able to move heaven and earth to keep our kids safe from the evils and tragedies in this world, but they will not go away and in doing so we actually make their lives miserable, having constant reminders that something bad could happen if they dare step outside the walls of safety that we want to build around them. This is not the answer. The odds are actually in our favor they won't happen.

There really are no answers. Tragedies, evils exist and we can do nothing to prevent them from happening. Can we be aware? Yes. Can we absolutely prevent? No. Are the odds actually in our favor? Yes.

We can't quit living or allowing our kids to live because there are some ills within this life on earth.

Well by that rationale, why have a military? Why have police officers? Why have jails or courts? That's about as stupid a comment as I have seen.

And how is providing our children with security "imprisoning them"?!?! Are the Obama children "imprisoned" because they have a Secret Service detail? Fuck, I'd give ANYTHING to have a couple of armed security personnel escorting my children 24x7....

 

[P@triot]

How about just expand the local police department by however many schools are in that city, and add 1 cop for every school, completely full time, trained, armed, and familiar with the local community. Have them in uniform, or undercover, whichever one we want.

Afterall, that coward stopped shooting when he heard the cops arrive, just like the Va Tech coward. Why not just have the cops already there, all day every day?

Oh wait.....right wing politicians dont want to fund PD's anymore. Nevermind that idea.

Uh, as usual, you don't understand the United States government (how sad).

Conservatives don't want FEDERAL government UNCONSTITUTIONALLY funding local items (thanks to you and other dumbocrats inability to understand the Constitution, that's what got us $16 trillion in debt).

Every conservative I know is a 1,000% behind local costs for law enforcement.

 

[Katzndogz]

Criminals have more rights than the children do. That's the problem. Criminals have a right to life and they deny that right to others.

 

[Some Guy]

Hide a former special ops in every school in America?


Or more than one.

No one would know who they were or how many were there, but they'd be there. And they'd be ready to spring into instant action as soon as a shooting started, drastically limiting loss of life. They could be planted in the schools as teachers, janitors, or any ordinary school related job

Only problem is there are prolly a lot more schools than former special ops.

Well, as you say, having a former special ops person isn't feasible since there aren't enough. But just having a highly trained police officer on site during school hours would be a nice piece of mind for parents and a deterrent for potential shooters.

 

[Truthmatters]

Not a bad idea.

employ trained returning vets as landscapers, janitors, teachers, security staff or whatever they are aslo quaified for.


Then give them a special pay bonus every month

 

[High_Gravity]

I don't think we have enough special forces for all the schools in the US.

 

[P@triot]

The truth is, anyone can be trained to shoot and react like special forces operators (not all have the mental stamina, physical stamina, etc. - but anyone can be trained to shoot like them and use their tactics).

It's just a matter of spending the money for the training (and constant training). But, what's more important, the security of our children or fuck'n art and music classes? Get rid of the unnecessary garbage (gym - really?!?) and lets start spending money on security.

 

[DiamondDave]

We have an on-duty armed police officer in the local high school (unsure of the Elementary school, as my kids no longer go there)... and that is without a history of violence... and that peace officer may be overkill for school fights, etc.. but that is not a bad thing

 

[mudwhistle]

It would be easier and cheaper just to train some admins and staff. Most prob own firearms anyway.

Oops idea is better.

Problem; Where should he keep his gun? Will he be allowed to wear it? If he has to run somewhere to get it because everyone is offended by it most of the damage will already be done. A pistol is a nice secondary weapon but you need a sniper rifle. One shot, one kill. It's still a hairy proposition.

Nope, armed well trained guards works better.

Then you have to worry about bombs.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Criminals have more rights than the children do. That's the problem. Criminals have a right to life and they deny that right to others.

This from the poster who thinks Scott Roeder is an American hero.

I think we can safely ignore any demented musings from you about criminality in this country.

 

[Avatar4321]

I doubt we have enough former speical ops to cover all the schools in America.

Though I have to applaud you for thinking outside your "empower government to make citizens defenseless" box.

 

[mudwhistle]

The truth is, anyone can be trained to shoot and react like special forces operators (not all have the mental stamina, physical stamina, etc. - but anyone can be trained to shoot like them and use their tactics).

It's just a matter of spending the money for the training (and constant training). But, what's more important, the security of our children or fuck'n art and music classes? Get rid of the unnecessary garbage (gym - really?!?) and lets start spending money on security.

Uh, not anyone.

Nothing replaces experience and regular range sessions.

 

[Avatar4321]

Criminals have more rights than the children do. That's the problem. Criminals have a right to life and they deny that right to others.

This from the poster who thinks Scott Roeder is an American hero.

I think we can safely ignore any demented musings from you about criminality in this country.

Sounds like laziness to me.

 

[Some Guy]

It would be easier and cheaper just to train some admins and staff. Most prob own firearms anyway.

Oops idea is better.

Problem; Where should he keep his gun? Will he be allowed to wear it? If he has to run somewhere to get it because everyone is offended by it most of the damage will already be done. A pistol is a nice secondary weapon but you need a sniper rifle. One shot, one kill. It's still a hairy proposition.

Nope, armed well trained guards works better.

Then you have to worry about bombs.

At my high school, which was a nice affluent suburb of Chicago, we had an armed police officer around at all times. He was in uniform and had his pistol on his hip.

He was a cool guy, got along with the students really well.