Cold Fusion38
SUPER GENIUS
- Thread starter
- #41
How about a hand grenade for home defense? JUST JOKING! I think the clean up would make that option counter productive.
Follow along with the video below to see how to install our site as a web app on your home screen.
Note: This feature may not be available in some browsers.
I want to get a good home defense weapon (no shotguns) but I am getting a lot of conflicting info. Any thoughts?
CZ 82, 9x18 ammo (kurtz9 otherwise known as a short 9mm). Parts and ammo are plentiful, easy to get and inexpensive. The weapon is a work horse and best of all you can get one for around $300 with an extra mag. It's all metal so it's heavier than the current composite arms available but that also helps in reducing recoil.
The picture (on my screen - 22" wide) is actual size.
I almost forgot it's on the C&R list (Curios and Relics)
The 9x18 is known as the 9Makarov, not the 9kurz, which is a .380 in this country.
While the CZ82 is a fine gun, I am not sure I would recommend it for someone as a first one.
It depends on how much a person is going to train and practice with the weapon. An automatic can jam. That's a fact of life. Don't whine how your Lorcin has gone 5000 rounds without a jam, the fact remains that any auto can jam and unless you've trained to clear it you're gonna spend the rest of your life learning how in a gun fight.
For a one decision leave in the drawer gun I'd recommend a Smith and Wesson Model 10 .38spc revolver, or any of the variants. They are generally inexpensive on the used market, intuitive to operate, reliable, never jam, will shoot a variety of ammo. It is the longest production gun in history, beginning in 1899 and you can buy a new one today. If you learn the trigger on the revolver shooting an auto is easy.
Shotguns are cheaper but are a limited weapon and many people dont have a place they can go shoot one.
btw I actually do this for a living.
As to the OP, a better question is:
Do you support "reasonable" restrictions on gun ownership? If so, what do you call reasonable?
I think gun bans are BULLSHIT and unconstitutional.
Excvep the .357 is more expensive than the .38, produces prohibitive recoil and blast indoors, and isn't any more effective than a good .38 load.CZ 82, 9x18 ammo (kurtz9 otherwise known as a short 9mm). Parts and ammo are plentiful, easy to get and inexpensive. The weapon is a work horse and best of all you can get one for around $300 with an extra mag. It's all metal so it's heavier than the current composite arms available but that also helps in reducing recoil.
The picture (on my screen - 22" wide) is actual size.
I almost forgot it's on the C&R list (Curios and Relics)
The 9x18 is known as the 9Makarov, not the 9kurz, which is a .380 in this country.
While the CZ82 is a fine gun, I am not sure I would recommend it for someone as a first one.
It depends on how much a person is going to train and practice with the weapon. An automatic can jam. That's a fact of life. Don't whine how your Lorcin has gone 5000 rounds without a jam, the fact remains that any auto can jam and unless you've trained to clear it you're gonna spend the rest of your life learning how in a gun fight.
For a one decision leave in the drawer gun I'd recommend a Smith and Wesson Model 10 .38spc revolver, or any of the variants. They are generally inexpensive on the used market, intuitive to operate, reliable, never jam, will shoot a variety of ammo. It is the longest production gun in history, beginning in 1899 and you can buy a new one today. If you learn the trigger on the revolver shooting an auto is easy.
Shotguns are cheaper but are a limited weapon and many people dont have a place they can go shoot one.
btw I actually do this for a living.
As to the OP, a better question is:
Do you support "reasonable" restrictions on gun ownership? If so, what do you call reasonable?
You're correct, I must not have been paying attention when I typed, I might have had my PPK in mind.
I disagree on the 38. I would go for a .357, that way you can blow away 38 ammo all day long but be able to carry the heavier round (practice with that also) for your CC. For wheel guns the quality of the Taurus (pistol) brand has come of age and is still much cheaper than the S&W.
Excvep the .357 is more expensive than the .38, produces prohibitive recoil and blast indoors, and isn't any more effective than a good .38 load.The 9x18 is known as the 9Makarov, not the 9kurz, which is a .380 in this country.
While the CZ82 is a fine gun, I am not sure I would recommend it for someone as a first one.
It depends on how much a person is going to train and practice with the weapon. An automatic can jam. That's a fact of life. Don't whine how your Lorcin has gone 5000 rounds without a jam, the fact remains that any auto can jam and unless you've trained to clear it you're gonna spend the rest of your life learning how in a gun fight.
For a one decision leave in the drawer gun I'd recommend a Smith and Wesson Model 10 .38spc revolver, or any of the variants. They are generally inexpensive on the used market, intuitive to operate, reliable, never jam, will shoot a variety of ammo. It is the longest production gun in history, beginning in 1899 and you can buy a new one today. If you learn the trigger on the revolver shooting an auto is easy.
Shotguns are cheaper but are a limited weapon and many people dont have a place they can go shoot one.
btw I actually do this for a living.
As to the OP, a better question is:
Do you support "reasonable" restrictions on gun ownership? If so, what do you call reasonable?
You're correct, I must not have been paying attention when I typed, I might have had my PPK in mind.
I disagree on the 38. I would go for a .357, that way you can blow away 38 ammo all day long but be able to carry the heavier round (practice with that also) for your CC. For wheel guns the quality of the Taurus (pistol) brand has come of age and is still much cheaper than the S&W.
As I said, I actually do this for a living.
I think gun bans are BULLSHIT and unconstitutional.
I think gun bans are BULLSHIT and unconstitutional.
Ruger P95.
Solid quality 9mm.
Browning 1911 derivative (as opposed to Glock-type) .
High capacity 15 round magazines.
Ammo is inexpensive and plentiful.
Lifetime factory repair.
Made in the USA.
$300 brand new delivered to a FFL.
Ruger P95 9mm Blue, w Rail 15 round for Sale at Buds Gun Shop $300.00
Ruger P95.
Solid quality 9mm.
Browning 1911 derivative (as opposed to Glock-type) .
High capacity 15 round magazines.
Ammo is inexpensive and plentiful.
Lifetime factory repair.
Made in the USA.
$300 brand new delivered to a FFL.
Ruger P95 9mm Blue, w Rail 15 round for Sale at Buds Gun Shop $300.00
And Cecile why trying to start a fight? I just mentioned that despite the fact that I lean much further to the left even I a rather liberal person recognises the FACT that we have a right to bare arms. One of the most FUNDEMENTAL rights we have. Right up there with freedom of speech. One is the sword the other is the shield of liberty.
And Cecile why trying to start a fight? I just mentioned that despite the fact that I lean much further to the left even I a rather liberal person recognises the FACT that we have a right to bare arms. One of the most FUNDEMENTAL rights we have. Right up there with freedom of speech. One is the sword the other is the shield of liberty.
I was teasing. That's sort of what the whole "wink" smiley is about. Guess I should have saved it for someone who doesn't have a stick up his ass. Or maybe just someone who isn't LOOKING for someone to be trying to start a fight.
Excvep the .357 is more expensive than the .38, produces prohibitive recoil and blast indoors, and isn't any more effective than a good .38 load.You're correct, I must not have been paying attention when I typed, I might have had my PPK in mind.
I disagree on the 38. I would go for a .357, that way you can blow away 38 ammo all day long but be able to carry the heavier round (practice with that also) for your CC. For wheel guns the quality of the Taurus (pistol) brand has come of age and is still much cheaper than the S&W.
As I said, I actually do this for a living.
Got that on your last post. Two or three rounds from a .38, center mass will definitly do the trick, I like the +P ammo. I understand what you are saying, however even with the .357 you still have the option of both rounds and yes wheel guns are better, especially if one is a novice, if a round misfires all you have to do is pull the trigger again. Which is why I prefer a wheel over a semi most of the time. The problem is most people want the "sexy" semi-autos because they look cool.