Here we go again. Repeal Ocare with TCare take Three.

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Lies. Completely fabricated bullshit.

Yea? Put yourself in the shoes of insurance companies for a few min and consider how you'd plan for 2018 in this environment of total uncertainty about the future of the market.

Yea? Put yourself in the shoes of insurance companies who are now forced to cover bankrupting pre existing conditions. What future is left after that sinks in?

NONE

You are seriously comparing common pre-existing condition actuarial data analysis and pricing to trying to figure out wtf those Republicans are going to do next?

You don't know what you are talking about.

Yes I am. While the idea of forced coverage is nice it is not practical. Insurance companies are created as a for profit gamble, but you idiots are trying to turn them into a government charity. It will never work.

I'm with you. Let millions of Americans die. Hopefully in pain and broke before they kick the bucket.

See? Lot's people feel the you do.

Not millions, JUST YOU

 

[rightwinger]

After eight years
Republicans are pushing a healthcare plan that they can't explain, has no CBO numbers, of which they can't possibly explain how it is better than Obamacare

 

[Missouri_Mike]

But they are the only ones with plans that get people covered.

The ACA does NOT cover everyone.

Even With Obamacare, 29 Million People Are Uninsured: Here’s Why

"An estimated 20 million people have gained insurance since health care reform was signed into law in 2010, but in the six years since, a significant group of Americans remain uninsured.

Estimates vary, but as many as 29 million Americans – about one in 10 – lack coverage. Why is that?

One of the biggest factors is cost, which still hinders many Americans from purchasing insurance. It may seem obvious, but the data shows many of the uninsured can’t afford coverage, even after reforms were passed."

So much for the 'AFFORDABLE Care Act'...more like the UN-Affordable Care Act'!

FAIL....next.

The fact is that more people did get insurance than bef0ore Obamacare. However it does need to be fixed in a way that preserves the gains made. That is why kicking people of their insurance is not the answer.

The fact is the same people that signed up for obiecare only did so because they lost their previous insurance. The number of uninsured is still the same. The amount they have to pay to get that insurance has at a minimum doubled. We don't have more insured. We have the same insured paying more.

 

[busybee01]

But they are the only ones with plans that get people covered.

The ACA does NOT cover everyone.

Even With Obamacare, 29 Million People Are Uninsured: Here’s Why

"An estimated 20 million people have gained insurance since health care reform was signed into law in 2010, but in the six years since, a significant group of Americans remain uninsured.

Estimates vary, but as many as 29 million Americans – about one in 10 – lack coverage. Why is that?

One of the biggest factors is cost, which still hinders many Americans from purchasing insurance. It may seem obvious, but the data shows many of the uninsured can’t afford coverage, even after reforms were passed."

So much for the 'AFFORDABLE Care Act'...more like the UN-Affordable Care Act'!

FAIL....next.

The fact is that more people did get insurance than bef0ore Obamacare. However it does need to be fixed in a way that preserves the gains made. That is why kicking people of their insurance is not the answer.

Snowflakes say we should just help bolster / improve the ACA. Why couldn't we do with that with the system we had - just improve it? Instead they replaced it with the ACA...that has not lived up as advertised / lied....

The system we had left millions more without healthcare insurance. The things that have to be maintained is the refundable tax credits and the mandate. This was in the original plan that was put forward by Heritage.

 

[busybee01]

But they are the only ones with plans that get people covered.

The ACA does NOT cover everyone.

Even With Obamacare, 29 Million People Are Uninsured: Here’s Why

"An estimated 20 million people have gained insurance since health care reform was signed into law in 2010, but in the six years since, a significant group of Americans remain uninsured.

Estimates vary, but as many as 29 million Americans – about one in 10 – lack coverage. Why is that?

One of the biggest factors is cost, which still hinders many Americans from purchasing insurance. It may seem obvious, but the data shows many of the uninsured can’t afford coverage, even after reforms were passed."

So much for the 'AFFORDABLE Care Act'...more like the UN-Affordable Care Act'!

FAIL....next.

The fact is that more people did get insurance than bef0ore Obamacare. However it does need to be fixed in a way that preserves the gains made. That is why kicking people of their insurance is not the answer.

The fact is the same people that signed up for obiecare only did so because they lost their previous insurance. The number of uninsured is still the same. The amount they have to pay to get that insurance has at a minimum doubled. We don't have more insured. We have the same insured paying more.

The number of insured people is down. You are full of bull.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

But they are the only ones with plans that get people covered.

The ACA does NOT cover everyone.

Even With Obamacare, 29 Million People Are Uninsured: Here’s Why

"An estimated 20 million people have gained insurance since health care reform was signed into law in 2010, but in the six years since, a significant group of Americans remain uninsured.

Estimates vary, but as many as 29 million Americans – about one in 10 – lack coverage. Why is that?

One of the biggest factors is cost, which still hinders many Americans from purchasing insurance. It may seem obvious, but the data shows many of the uninsured can’t afford coverage, even after reforms were passed."

So much for the 'AFFORDABLE Care Act'...more like the UN-Affordable Care Act'!

FAIL....next.

The fact is that more people did get insurance than bef0ore Obamacare. However it does need to be fixed in a way that preserves the gains made. That is why kicking people of their insurance is not the answer.

The fact is the same people that signed up for obiecare only did so because they lost their previous insurance. The number of uninsured is still the same. The amount they have to pay to get that insurance has at a minimum doubled. We don't have more insured. We have the same insured paying more.

The number of insured people is down. You are full of bull.

I agree. Obiecare did nothing but make the situation worse. I'm happy you have seen the light.

 

[Billo_Really]

Fuck those mother-fuckers! I hope they all burn in fucking hell!

 

[rightwinger]

Republicans are giving a big fuck you to America

 

[AntonToo]

But they are the only ones with plans that get people covered.

The ACA does NOT cover everyone.

Even With Obamacare, 29 Million People Are Uninsured: Here’s Why

"An estimated 20 million people have gained insurance since health care reform was signed into law in 2010, but in the six years since, a significant group of Americans remain uninsured.

Estimates vary, but as many as 29 million Americans – about one in 10 – lack coverage. Why is that?

One of the biggest factors is cost, which still hinders many Americans from purchasing insurance. It may seem obvious, but the data shows many of the uninsured can’t afford coverage, even after reforms were passed."

So much for the 'AFFORDABLE Care Act'...more like the UN-Affordable Care Act'!

FAIL....next.

The fact is that more people did get insurance than bef0ore Obamacare. However it does need to be fixed in a way that preserves the gains made. That is why kicking people of their insurance is not the answer.

The fact is the same people that signed up for obiecare only did so because they lost their previous insurance. The number of uninsured is still the same. The amount they have to pay to get that insurance has at a minimum doubled. We don't have more insured. We have the same insured paying more.

The number of insured people is down. You are full of bull.

Crazy, considering I just showed him very clear data on uninsured rates.

I guess for some very special people believing is seeing

 

[rightwinger]

Does anyone know what Trumpcare is about?

Dump it all to the states and wash your hands?

 

[BlueGin]

so its down to take what you can get if you're a RW'r ... bad choice.

they're not interested in anything but holding on to their pride. Second or third best never works out in the long run - EVER.

THEY TRAPPED THEMSELVES AGAIN.

idiots.

They did but I want the mandate gone.

It does get rid of the mandate and the subsidies too I believe. We got a rundown at work. I will post it later.

It doesn't get rid of pre existing conditions,but it does give states more flexibility with costs.

 

[BlueGin]

Take responsibility for once in your life.

This catastrophe was predicted YEARS ago.
You passed it you own it.

Bullshit - what was predicted was a period of market volatility and restructuring followed by a settling period. The settling period CAN'T HAPPEN is the legislative ground is constantly getting shaken up.

Lies. Completely fabricated bullshit.

Yea? Put yourself in the shoes of insurance companies for a few min and consider how you'd plan for 2018 in this environment of total uncertainty about the future of the market.

Yea? Put yourself in the shoes of insurance companies who are now forced to cover bankrupting pre existing conditions. What future is left after that sinks in?

NONE

Too fucking bad for insurance companies
If they can't cover pre-existing conditions, let the Government provide insurance to all Americans

Insurance companies lobbied to prevent the Government from entering the insurance business. If they can't hold up their end of the bargain...let the government do it

The government can't afford it

 

[Missouri_Mike]

But they are the only ones with plans that get people covered.

The ACA does NOT cover everyone.

Even With Obamacare, 29 Million People Are Uninsured: Here’s Why

"An estimated 20 million people have gained insurance since health care reform was signed into law in 2010, but in the six years since, a significant group of Americans remain uninsured.

Estimates vary, but as many as 29 million Americans – about one in 10 – lack coverage. Why is that?

One of the biggest factors is cost, which still hinders many Americans from purchasing insurance. It may seem obvious, but the data shows many of the uninsured can’t afford coverage, even after reforms were passed."

So much for the 'AFFORDABLE Care Act'...more like the UN-Affordable Care Act'!

FAIL....next.

The fact is that more people did get insurance than bef0ore Obamacare. However it does need to be fixed in a way that preserves the gains made. That is why kicking people of their insurance is not the answer.

The fact is the same people that signed up for obiecare only did so because they lost their previous insurance. The number of uninsured is still the same. The amount they have to pay to get that insurance has at a minimum doubled. We don't have more insured. We have the same insured paying more.

The number of insured people is down. You are full of bull.

Crazy, considering I just showed him very clear data on uninsured rates.

I guess for some very special people believing is seeing

We have the same number of uninsured. Wtf are you talking about?

 

[AntonToo]

The ACA does NOT cover everyone.

Even With Obamacare, 29 Million People Are Uninsured: Here’s Why

"An estimated 20 million people have gained insurance since health care reform was signed into law in 2010, but in the six years since, a significant group of Americans remain uninsured.

Estimates vary, but as many as 29 million Americans – about one in 10 – lack coverage. Why is that?

One of the biggest factors is cost, which still hinders many Americans from purchasing insurance. It may seem obvious, but the data shows many of the uninsured can’t afford coverage, even after reforms were passed."

So much for the 'AFFORDABLE Care Act'...more like the UN-Affordable Care Act'!

FAIL....next.

The fact is that more people did get insurance than bef0ore Obamacare. However it does need to be fixed in a way that preserves the gains made. That is why kicking people of their insurance is not the answer.

The fact is the same people that signed up for obiecare only did so because they lost their previous insurance. The number of uninsured is still the same. The amount they have to pay to get that insurance has at a minimum doubled. We don't have more insured. We have the same insured paying more.

The number of insured people is down. You are full of bull.

Crazy, considering I just showed him very clear data on uninsured rates.

I guess for some very special people believing is seeing

We have the same number of uninsured. Wtf are you talking about?

No, we don't asshole, as you've been shown many times and yet you still shamelessly spread these falsehoods.

 

[rightwinger]

Bullshit - what was predicted was a period of market volatility and restructuring followed by a settling period. The settling period CAN'T HAPPEN is the legislative ground is constantly getting shaken up.

Lies. Completely fabricated bullshit.

Yea? Put yourself in the shoes of insurance companies for a few min and consider how you'd plan for 2018 in this environment of total uncertainty about the future of the market.

Yea? Put yourself in the shoes of insurance companies who are now forced to cover bankrupting pre existing conditions. What future is left after that sinks in?

NONE

Too fucking bad for insurance companies
If they can't cover pre-existing conditions, let the Government provide insurance to all Americans

Insurance companies lobbied to prevent the Government from entering the insurance business. If they can't hold up their end of the bargain...let the government do it

The government can't afford it

Insurance companies make a huge profit on it
We are not talking about giving people free health coverage but the Government acting as the insurance agent

During the Obamacare debate, Insurance companies lobbied to kill the Public Option by swearing they would cover pre-existing conditions

 

[Richard-H]

Those evil people that want everyone to have access to healthcare! Oh how Horrible!

Oh put a sock in it, snowflake. Libtards are not the only ones who want people to have health coverage.

The are, however the only ones who lied their assess off to the American people (will pay for itself, will not cost a dime, will lower health care prices, you can keep your plan / doctor, you will have 72hrs to read it before a vote is cast...) and the only ones to ram the MINORITY-SUPPORTED socialist agenda-driven Obama / DNC 'EDICT' into law in the wee hours of the morning, forcing it into law against the majority opposition of the American people.

This was not 'representative government' but a political coup against the American people by the self-appointed Rulers of the American people.

Your probably not old enough to remember, but in 2008 Obama and the Democratic congress won the election by a significant majority giving then a huge mandate to enact the ACA.

Unlike the current President and congress, they won by having the majority of the popular vote - by a large margin. They didn't need an 'electoral college' victory or massive gerrymandering.

It's you RWNJ that are a small minority - not even close to winning popular majority votes.

I'd suggest that you take that sock and stick it where the sun don't shine - but you'd probably enjoy that!

 

[Richard-H]

Bullshit - what was predicted was a period of market volatility and restructuring followed by a settling period. The settling period CAN'T HAPPEN is the legislative ground is constantly getting shaken up.

Lies. Completely fabricated bullshit.

Yea? Put yourself in the shoes of insurance companies for a few min and consider how you'd plan for 2018 in this environment of total uncertainty about the future of the market.

Yea? Put yourself in the shoes of insurance companies who are now forced to cover bankrupting pre existing conditions. What future is left after that sinks in?

NONE

Too fucking bad for insurance companies
If they can't cover pre-existing conditions, let the Government provide insurance to all Americans

Insurance companies lobbied to prevent the Government from entering the insurance business. If they can't hold up their end of the bargain...let the government do it

The government can't afford it

The government can afford anything that the American people can afford - and the American people can afford socialized healthcare, just like the rest of the industrialized world.

What the American people can not afford is the extreme costs of healthcare that we are now stuck with.

 

[g5000]

The number of uninsured is still the same.

That's just a flat out lie.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

The number of uninsured is still the same.

That's just a flat out lie.

So there are no longer any uninsured?

 

[AntonToo]

The number of uninsured is still the same.

That's just a flat out lie.

So there are no longer any uninsured?

Again bullshit. Just because there are still uninsured people doesn't mean that ACA didn't significantly reduce number of people uninsured.

I suggest you try posting with at least a modicum of honesty, because right now you look like a total asshole.