Here we go again. Repeal Ocare with TCare take Three.

[RDD_1210]

LOL, the plan is just to just wreck current system, hand over grant money to states and let them deal with it.

WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?

The current system is already wrecked. Open your eyes! 45% of counties to have only one option or NO OPTIONS under the current system in 2018.

Do you know why that is? Like actually know?

 

[AntonToo]

LOL, the plan is just to just wreck current system, hand over grant money to states and let them deal with it.

WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?

The current system is already wrecked. Open your eyes! 45% of counties to have only one option or NO OPTIONS under the current system in 2018.

No it isn't and if Republicans would lay off the repeal shtick insurance companies can plan normally and get back to competing again. Entering markets at this point is like playing the Russian roulette and even companies that turned profits don't know wtf to do.

 

[g5000]

Trump is doing as good a job of keeping ObamaCare alive as Clinton would have.

His base must be so pleased.

"He's getting so much done!"

 

[easyt65]

There is only one thing collapsing Obamacare right now - REPUBLICANS and all the market uncertainty they are whipping up that makes any future planning for insurance companies a guessing game.

While snowflakes continue to declare Americans will lose coverage if the ACA is repealed there are already millions of Americans who are out of coverage due to insurers leaving exchanges, leaving no insurers left. Many are left, due to massive increases, unable to afford 'affordable' health care.

And as long as the Federal Govt continues to pay into / for the Obama program sworn to pay for itself, not cost a dime, and which would lower the cost of health care it can survive.

If left to operate as it was always promised, it would have already collapsed.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

LOL, the plan is just to just wreck current system, hand over grant money to states and let them deal with it.

WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?

The current system is already wrecked. Open your eyes! 45% of counties to have only one option or NO OPTIONS under the current system in 2018.

No it isn't and if Republicans would lay off the repeal shtick insurance companies can plan normally and get back to competing again. Entering markets at this point is playing the Russian roulette.

There is no money in it the way it's designed. A few short term BAILOUTS to keep profits up is not the solution and that's the only option the left gave them.

How could anyone ever think that FORCING coverage of pre existing conditions was going to be profitable? It will bankrupt any company that is not fully backed by the government. And then it just bankrupts the taxpayer.

The system was designed to fail in order to usher in singlepayer

 

[Missouri_Mike]

LOL, the plan is just to just wreck current system, hand over grant money to states and let them deal with it.

WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?

The current system is already wrecked. Open your eyes! 45% of counties to have only one option or NO OPTIONS under the current system in 2018.

No it isn't and if Republicans would lay off the repeal shtick insurance companies can plan normally and get back to competing again. Entering markets at this point is like playing the Russian roulette and even companies that turned profits don't know wtf to do.

It's almost like looking for the government to keep your company profitable isn't a smart move.

 

[AntonToo]

There is only one thing collapsing Obamacare right now - REPUBLICANS and all the market uncertainty they are whipping up that makes any future planning for insurance companies a guessing game.

While snowflakes continue to declare Americans will lose coverage if the ACA is repealed there are already millions of Americans who are out of coverage due to insurers leaving exchanges, leaving no insurers left. Many are left, due to massive increases, unable to afford 'affordable' health care.

And as long as the Federal Govt continues to pay into / for the Obama program sworn to pay for itself, not cost a dime, and which would lower the cost of health care it can survive.

If left to operate as it was always promised, it would have already collapsed.

THEY ARE LEAVING BECAUSE REPUBLICANS AND TRUMP ADMIN ARE DISRUPTING THE MARKETS.

Thanks a lot!

If this bill passes we are shooting straight up back to 18%+ uninsured in this country.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

There is only one thing collapsing Obamacare right now - REPUBLICANS and all the market uncertainty they are whipping up that makes any future planning for insurance companies a guessing game.

While snowflakes continue to declare Americans will lose coverage if the ACA is repealed there are already millions of Americans who are out of coverage due to insurers leaving exchanges, leaving no insurers left. Many are left, due to massive increases, unable to afford 'affordable' health care.

And as long as the Federal Govt continues to pay into / for the Obama program sworn to pay for itself, not cost a dime, and which would lower the cost of health care it can survive.

If left to operate as it was always promised, it would have already collapsed.

THEY ARE LEAVING BECAUSE REPUBLICANS AND TRUMP ADMIN ARE DISRUPTING THE MARKETS.

Thanks a lot!

If this bill passes we are shooting straight up back to 18%+ uninsured in this country.

Take responsibility for once in your life.

This catastrophe was predicted YEARS ago.
You passed it you own it.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

There is only one thing collapsing Obamacare right now - REPUBLICANS and all the market uncertainty they are whipping up that makes any future planning for insurance companies a guessing game.

While snowflakes continue to declare Americans will lose coverage if the ACA is repealed there are already millions of Americans who are out of coverage due to insurers leaving exchanges, leaving no insurers left. Many are left, due to massive increases, unable to afford 'affordable' health care.

And as long as the Federal Govt continues to pay into / for the Obama program sworn to pay for itself, not cost a dime, and which would lower the cost of health care it can survive.

If left to operate as it was always promised, it would have already collapsed.

THEY ARE LEAVING BECAUSE REPUBLICANS AND TRUMP ADMIN ARE DISRUPTING THE MARKETS.

Thanks a lot!

If this bill passes we are shooting straight up back to 18%+ uninsured in this country.

Hey! Maybe having the government try to manipulate the market place is a shit idea! Just a thought.

 

[rightwinger]

Republicans are punting and dumping healthcare on the states without funding

What? Its not our fault if the states don't provide healthcare

The money is being sent to the states. Next year 45% of the counties in the US will have ONE OR NO Insurance options.
That is a recipe for huge plan hikes & fraud.

Very little is known about Trumpcare

Will states require coverage of pre-existing conditions?
Will as many Americans have coverage as under Obamacare?
What will be the premiums?
Will I be able to keep my doctor under Trumpcare?

 

[Siete]

so its down to take what you can get if you're a RW'r ... bad choice.

they're not interested in anything but holding on to their pride. Second or third best never works out in the long run - EVER.

THEY TRAPPED THEMSELVES AGAIN.

idiots.

 

[AntonToo]

There is only one thing collapsing Obamacare right now - REPUBLICANS and all the market uncertainty they are whipping up that makes any future planning for insurance companies a guessing game.

While snowflakes continue to declare Americans will lose coverage if the ACA is repealed there are already millions of Americans who are out of coverage due to insurers leaving exchanges, leaving no insurers left. Many are left, due to massive increases, unable to afford 'affordable' health care.

And as long as the Federal Govt continues to pay into / for the Obama program sworn to pay for itself, not cost a dime, and which would lower the cost of health care it can survive.

If left to operate as it was always promised, it would have already collapsed.

THEY ARE LEAVING BECAUSE REPUBLICANS AND TRUMP ADMIN ARE DISRUPTING THE MARKETS.

Thanks a lot!

If this bill passes we are shooting straight up back to 18%+ uninsured in this country.

Take responsibility for once in your life.

This catastrophe was predicted YEARS ago.
You passed it you own it.

Bullshit - what was predicted was a period of market volatility and restructuring followed by a settling period and market competition. The settling period CAN'T HAPPEN if the legislative ground that underlies the market is constantly getting shaken up.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

There is only one thing collapsing Obamacare right now - REPUBLICANS and all the market uncertainty they are whipping up that makes any future planning for insurance companies a guessing game.

While snowflakes continue to declare Americans will lose coverage if the ACA is repealed there are already millions of Americans who are out of coverage due to insurers leaving exchanges, leaving no insurers left. Many are left, due to massive increases, unable to afford 'affordable' health care.

And as long as the Federal Govt continues to pay into / for the Obama program sworn to pay for itself, not cost a dime, and which would lower the cost of health care it can survive.

If left to operate as it was always promised, it would have already collapsed.

THEY ARE LEAVING BECAUSE REPUBLICANS AND TRUMP ADMIN ARE DISRUPTING THE MARKETS.

Thanks a lot!

If this bill passes we are shooting straight up back to 18%+ uninsured in this country.

Take responsibility for once in your life.

This catastrophe was predicted YEARS ago.
You passed it you own it.

Bullshit - what was predicted was a period of market volatility and restructuring followed by a settling period. The settling period CAN'T HAPPEN is the legislative ground is constantly getting shaken up.

Lies. Completely fabricated bullshit.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

so its down to take what you can get if you're a RW'r ... bad choice.

they're not interested in anything but holding on to their pride. Second or third best never works out in the long run - EVER.

THEY TRAPPED THEMSELVES AGAIN.

idiots.

They did but I want the mandate gone.

 

[AntonToo]

There is only one thing collapsing Obamacare right now - REPUBLICANS and all the market uncertainty they are whipping up that makes any future planning for insurance companies a guessing game.

While snowflakes continue to declare Americans will lose coverage if the ACA is repealed there are already millions of Americans who are out of coverage due to insurers leaving exchanges, leaving no insurers left. Many are left, due to massive increases, unable to afford 'affordable' health care.

And as long as the Federal Govt continues to pay into / for the Obama program sworn to pay for itself, not cost a dime, and which would lower the cost of health care it can survive.

If left to operate as it was always promised, it would have already collapsed.

THEY ARE LEAVING BECAUSE REPUBLICANS AND TRUMP ADMIN ARE DISRUPTING THE MARKETS.

Thanks a lot!

If this bill passes we are shooting straight up back to 18%+ uninsured in this country.

Take responsibility for once in your life.

This catastrophe was predicted YEARS ago.
You passed it you own it.

Bullshit - what was predicted was a period of market volatility and restructuring followed by a settling period. The settling period CAN'T HAPPEN is the legislative ground is constantly getting shaken up.

Lies. Completely fabricated bullshit.

Yea? Put yourself in the shoes of insurance companies for a few min and consider how you'd plan for 2018 in this environment of total uncertainty about the future of the market.

Better yet listen to them talking about it:

Insurers won't commit to 2018 exchanges until they know ACA's future

 

[Missourian]

With no mandate, there is no Obamacare.

And I for one would believe the odds are so much better against 197 state legislators 70 miles away than 535 members of Congress 1,000 miles away.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

While snowflakes continue to declare Americans will lose coverage if the ACA is repealed there are already millions of Americans who are out of coverage due to insurers leaving exchanges, leaving no insurers left. Many are left, due to massive increases, unable to afford 'affordable' health care.

And as long as the Federal Govt continues to pay into / for the Obama program sworn to pay for itself, not cost a dime, and which would lower the cost of health care it can survive.

If left to operate as it was always promised, it would have already collapsed.

THEY ARE LEAVING BECAUSE REPUBLICANS AND TRUMP ADMIN ARE DISRUPTING THE MARKETS.

Thanks a lot!

If this bill passes we are shooting straight up back to 18%+ uninsured in this country.

Take responsibility for once in your life.

This catastrophe was predicted YEARS ago.
You passed it you own it.

Bullshit - what was predicted was a period of market volatility and restructuring followed by a settling period. The settling period CAN'T HAPPEN is the legislative ground is constantly getting shaken up.

Lies. Completely fabricated bullshit.

Yea? Put yourself in the shoes of insurance companies for a few min and consider how you'd plan for 2018 in this environment of total uncertainty about the future of the market.

Yea? Put yourself in the shoes of insurance companies who are now forced to cover bankrupting pre existing conditions. What future is left after that sinks in?

NONE

 

[easyt65]

There is only one thing collapsing Obamacare right now - REPUBLICANS and all the market uncertainty they are whipping up that makes any future planning for insurance companies a guessing game.

While snowflakes continue to declare Americans will lose coverage if the ACA is repealed there are already millions of Americans who are out of coverage due to insurers leaving exchanges, leaving no insurers left. Many are left, due to massive increases, unable to afford 'affordable' health care.

And as long as the Federal Govt continues to pay into / for the Obama program sworn to pay for itself, not cost a dime, and which would lower the cost of health care it can survive.

If left to operate as it was always promised, it would have already collapsed.

THEY ARE LEAVING BECAUSE REPUBLICANS AND TRUMP ADMIN ARE DISRUPTING THE MARKETS.

Thanks a lot!

If this bill passes we are shooting straight up back to 18%+ uninsured in this country.

No.

It was promised it would pay for itself. It hasn't.
It was promised it would not cost a dime. It has.
It was promised to lower premiums. In some cases it has more than doubled it.
Harry Reid declared it was always meant to fail, a stepping stone to Single Payer.

If the ACA had not been a minority-supported, socialist-agenda-driven POS that the majority of Americans opposed, Liberals would not have had to ram it through into law in the wee hours of the morning while most Americans slept, only to learn of the betrayal when they awoke the next morning.

If the ACA would have been a 'good' idea / piece of legislation Democrats who voted for it would have actually known what was in the bill they voted for, Obama would have kept his promise to the American people and would have given them 72 hours to read it before the vote was cast, and it would have been more of a partisan bill....

There is no legitimate justification for the law, how it was sold', how it was rammed into law, and how it has failed thus far as compared to what was promised...but snowflakes will try to do it anyway.

 

[AntonToo]

THEY ARE LEAVING BECAUSE REPUBLICANS AND TRUMP ADMIN ARE DISRUPTING THE MARKETS.

Thanks a lot!

If this bill passes we are shooting straight up back to 18%+ uninsured in this country.

Take responsibility for once in your life.

This catastrophe was predicted YEARS ago.
You passed it you own it.

Bullshit - what was predicted was a period of market volatility and restructuring followed by a settling period. The settling period CAN'T HAPPEN is the legislative ground is constantly getting shaken up.

Lies. Completely fabricated bullshit.

Yea? Put yourself in the shoes of insurance companies for a few min and consider how you'd plan for 2018 in this environment of total uncertainty about the future of the market.

Yea? Put yourself in the shoes of insurance companies who are now forced to cover bankrupting pre existing conditions. What future is left after that sinks in?

NONE

You are seriously comparing common pre-existing condition actuarial data analysis and pricing to trying to figure out wtf those Republicans are going to do next?

You don't know what you are talking about.

 

[rightwinger]

THEY ARE LEAVING BECAUSE REPUBLICANS AND TRUMP ADMIN ARE DISRUPTING THE MARKETS.

Thanks a lot!

If this bill passes we are shooting straight up back to 18%+ uninsured in this country.

Take responsibility for once in your life.

This catastrophe was predicted YEARS ago.
You passed it you own it.

Bullshit - what was predicted was a period of market volatility and restructuring followed by a settling period. The settling period CAN'T HAPPEN is the legislative ground is constantly getting shaken up.

Lies. Completely fabricated bullshit.

Yea? Put yourself in the shoes of insurance companies for a few min and consider how you'd plan for 2018 in this environment of total uncertainty about the future of the market.

Yea? Put yourself in the shoes of insurance companies who are now forced to cover bankrupting pre existing conditions. What future is left after that sinks in?

NONE

Too fucking bad for insurance companies
If they can't cover pre-existing conditions, let the Government provide insurance to all Americans

Insurance companies lobbied to prevent the Government from entering the insurance business. If they can't hold up their end of the bargain...let the government do it